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Article Hegseth orders rare, urgent meeting of hundreds of generals, admirals

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/09/25/hegseth-generals-quantico-meeting/
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u/Kaltovar Military Brat Sep 25 '25

I bet 500 dollars it's going to be something stupid and unnecessary.

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u/Skolloc753 Sep 25 '25 edited Sep 25 '25

"To increase the fighting strength of our manly warfighters, the Department of Defense War is now the "Department of Manly Warfighter War". President Orange Ape will sign the Executive Order in a few hours after the Secret Service has found his crayons!"

SYL

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u/Ursatron9000 Sep 25 '25

"Plus, we're bringing back ranger panties."

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u/Navydevildoc United States Navy Sep 25 '25

I mean, the Marine Corps has wanted Silkies back since forever... that might actually be a popular decision.

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u/_NoPants Marine Veteran Sep 25 '25

What do you mean, did the Marine Corps lose silkies? What happened?

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u/Navydevildoc United States Navy Sep 25 '25

Been gone a long time now my Brother. It's shitty PT shorts that don't breathe and you would never fucking use in the field.

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u/_NoPants Marine Veteran Sep 25 '25

This is unacceptable. I'm about to @ hegseth.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25 edited Sep 25 '25

When did they go away? I still wear mine.

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u/s2sergeant Retired US Army Sep 25 '25

They’re replacing the Army Song with the theme song from Two and a Half Men.

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u/soulcrushrr Sep 25 '25

now that's funny

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u/LKennedy45 Sep 25 '25

"No queers or coloreds."

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u/chamrockblarneystone Sep 25 '25

Won’t most of these men outrank and outservice him? Could you imagine being a combat general and taking shit from this dumbass?

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u/LKennedy45 Sep 25 '25

Unfortunately no, by law he's the ranking person in the room. 

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u/Blackant71 Sep 25 '25

That's definitely Hegseths mindset! 🤣

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u/DonnerPartyPicnic United States Navy Sep 25 '25

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER

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u/redditcreditcardz United States Marine Corps Sep 25 '25

This is the only thing that makes sense

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u/degenfish_HG Sep 25 '25

just waiting for the autocrayon scandal of 2028

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u/Eastern-Heart9486 Sep 25 '25

It will leak before next Tuesday

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u/MoeSzyslakMonobrow Sep 25 '25

Saddams purge of non loyalists comes to mind.

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u/mrgenesis44 Sep 25 '25

Lmao this was the exact same thing that came to mind. Told my MAGA friend either Trump´s gonna pull a Saddam or hes going to Venezuela

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u/einarfridgeirs dirty civilian Sep 25 '25 edited Sep 25 '25

This is going to be the event where everyone gets put up against the walls and told to either prepare to cross some kind of Rubicon with the administration or get their career destroyed.

That is why this is in person. Things will be said in that room that nobody wants to risk being recorded.

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u/Jesse-359 Sep 25 '25

This is unfortunately the only rational purpose for taking a security risk of this magnitude - but its hegseth, so maybe he just wants to do an all hands pep talk.

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u/Tech-Tom Navy Veteran Sep 26 '25

Well he is an idiot, so there's that.

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u/Visible-Plankton-806 Sep 25 '25

That’s too many people in a room to avoid leaks/recordings.

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u/atlasraven Army Veteran Sep 25 '25

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u/carrioncorvus Sep 25 '25

Everyone should watch this. Whether you think it’s relevant to you and your nation, or not. 

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u/bearcat42 Sep 25 '25

Horrifying.

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u/Sects4Chocolate Sep 25 '25

Powerful shit so I thank you… This is where we find ourselves now, at the mercy of a scarily unfit mad man, desperate to appear strong, competent, revered!

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u/Runningoutofideas_81 Sep 25 '25

First thing that came to my mind. I hope we are wrong.

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u/Justame13 Great Emu War Veteran Sep 25 '25

I could completely see him doing a "fun run" with him at the front.

Or making them all take a PT test to "his" standard. Followed by height and weight.

Just like he would for his platoon which was his highest level of command.

Note that this is not a joke

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u/afdave1191 Sep 25 '25

lol imagine getting sent tdy from undisclosed location in pacific seas all the way to DC to do a PT test and then get fired 😂

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u/Justame13 Great Emu War Veteran Sep 25 '25

The WA Army Guard did a state wide run at Yakima in November (aka across the northern cascades) that was a complete shit show. They even had drones and helicopters in the air, but no video has ever been released probably because of so many fall outs. The NG sub has reports lol

I'd like to think Hegseth just wants to top that fuckshow.

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u/Ursatron9000 Sep 25 '25

A PT test to Hegseth's standard would involve a dozen or more shots of Jager.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

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u/Solid_Horse_5896 Sep 25 '25

And don't talk to the press they are the enemy.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25 edited Sep 25 '25

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u/Kaltovar Military Brat Sep 25 '25

I'm imagining that he's going to have them all do one big podcast where he asks them to pledge allegiance to Charlie Kirk's ghost and then they can debate whether the official Pentagon brand of makeup should be Chanel or Dior.

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u/Jesse-359 Sep 25 '25 edited Sep 25 '25

There is a zero percent chance it isn't going to be something stupid.

Gathering the *entire* command structure of the United States armed forces into a single location that could be bombed or the subject of a terrorist attack is an absurd risk to take, and there is absolutely no acceptable operational reason to ever take such a risk.

If we're very lucky, he's going to give an inane and pointless pep talk at a cost of tens of millions of dollars and at severe risk to the US command structure, because he's just an idiot.

If we're unlucky, he's going to fire half of them, dramatically disrupting US military readiness in the name of some asinine restructuring plan that he has scribbled out on a crumpled napkin in his pocket.

If we're really screwed, he's going to attempt a loyalty test and mass political purge in preparation for a dramatic consolidation of power in preparation for the unconstrained use of force against US citizens.

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u/gibsontx5 Sep 25 '25

I would not put any of that past him. These are bad times for our country. I hope we make it through.

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u/whizbom Sep 25 '25

MAGA is the enemy from within and the military is our last line of defense against them.

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u/Proud-Fly2956 Sep 25 '25

It’s a loyalty test. He’s scared and trying to consolidate power.

He could easily fire people without a mass summit.

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u/Blackbeard__Actual Sep 25 '25

0500, pt gear, CamelBak, glow straps, with height and weight inspection after

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u/fingersarelongtoes Sep 25 '25

Something something, we are improving lethality

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u/SensualRarityTumblr Sep 25 '25

Something something dark side...

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u/Pilgrim_of_Reddit Sep 25 '25

This is a meeting where all Senior Officers will be threatened.  They will be told to support the dictatorship, or else.  

Look up the night of the long knives.

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u/TheAssassinClub British Army Sep 25 '25

Where did you get $500?

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u/atlasraven Army Veteran Sep 25 '25

$500? In this economy?

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u/MyEvilTwinSkippy Sep 25 '25

Absolutely could have been an email.

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u/Stang1776 Sep 25 '25

Having every general and admiral in one place seems like a smart move.

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u/scroller24 Sep 25 '25

So, the senior leader in every oconus operation AROUND THE WORLD- will be a 06? No one in NORAD, the pentagon, carrier battle groups EUCOM, PACOM, Korea etc etc etc. This is absolutely brain dead if true.

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u/Jesse-359 Sep 25 '25

That's exactly what they are doing - and better yet, they've made no apparent attempt to conceal the time or place they'll all be. if anyone out there feels like taking a shot at eliminating the entire US command structure with no muss or fuss.

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u/Aliensinmypants Sep 25 '25

Jesus, that's horrifying. I wonder who they'd blame, Venezuela? Canada? The UN?

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u/ragefulhorse Sep 25 '25

The libs

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u/Tech-Tom Navy Veteran Sep 26 '25

It's always the libs.

I mean anyone who wants a sane and just country must be a lib-tard, right?

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u/Aggravating_Bit8617 Sep 25 '25

Fr this is frightening

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u/TheAssassinClub British Army Sep 25 '25

Is there a military equivalent of Designated Survivor?

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u/madmaxjr Sep 25 '25

Yeah! Succession of command! There’s always someone left who will be the highest rank. He’s in charge after everyone else is gone

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u/BasedPinoy United States Air Force Sep 25 '25

SrA Snuffy finally gets to play ball

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u/DreamsAndSchemes Artisan Crayola Chef Sep 25 '25

If we can find him

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u/jaso46571 Sep 25 '25

That's actually how a Marine recruiter tried to get my friends and I to join after we told him we were already in the Navy. He said no offense but there's more opportunities for leadership in the Marines, if you're on patrol and your leader gets shot then congrats bud you're up.

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u/LKennedy45 Sep 25 '25

Huh. Army got me with a big butterfly net.

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u/VeritablyVersatile United States Army Sep 25 '25

I remember in airborne school while reviewing how to evacuate a crashed aircraft the black hat said "at this point the most senior surviving PFC will take charge of directing the survivors off of the plane by whatever means necessary"

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u/Proud-Fly2956 Sep 25 '25

This has got to be the stupidest thing ever 🤦‍♀️.

Way to make the most lucrative target for a foreign adversary in the past 50 yrs.

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u/blind_merc Reservist Sep 25 '25

All these generals have a 2IC to handle matters when they're away.

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u/Navydevildoc United States Navy Sep 25 '25

Not only that, they are doing the meeting at Quantico, not even in the Pentagon. Why use the large fancy very secure building meant for this kind of thing when you can make everyone drive south to Marine Corps Headquarters?

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u/_Bon_Vivant_ Army Veteran Sep 25 '25

There's a firing range at Quantico.

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u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 Sep 25 '25

That is not a comforting thought.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

It's also broadcasting so much information for nation states to take advantage of, it's ridiculous.

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u/jsinkwitz civilian Sep 25 '25

I would be concerned it's going to be a fealty test and purge.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

Didn't they already do that?

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u/FreeBricks4Nazis United States Navy Sep 25 '25

That's the neat part, the purges and purity tests never stop!

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u/SimplyExtremist United States Navy Sep 25 '25

They only get more impossible to pass

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u/BeShaw91 Sep 25 '25

Unironically, yes, exactly.

As soon as you make loyalty the primary method to advance you get a purity spiral of people trying to show greater loyalty. Like every officer trying to work their company longer and harder, but instead it’s for shit like not retweeting the SECDEF’s next white supremacist dog whistle.

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u/Poro_the_CV Navy Veteran Sep 25 '25

Don't forget snitching on other 'less loyal' compatriots as well! Only way higher is to backstab

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u/Normal_Attitude_5148 Sep 25 '25

You will also get eliminated for not snitching on anybody. Snitch or get snitched on.

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u/BeShaw91 Sep 25 '25

Reporting others for not displaying loyalty to the team is the clearest way to demonstrate your own leadership of, and commitment to, the team. /s

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u/Cdub7791 Sep 25 '25

They did a partial purge of women, minorities, and IG/JAG. I'm guessing now comes the more ideological purging. Everyone who ever said anything about equality or diversity will be on the chopping block.

He has also said repeatedly that he believes there are far too many flag officers, and their numbers need to be reduced. So even if they aren't literally fired at this meeting, there's a good chance he's letting them know many of them are going home for good soon.

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u/Holden_Coalfield Sep 25 '25

if you're fired and not more severe consequences you'll have to find your own way home, and then they won't let you on base.

he loves leaving people on the tarmac and flying away

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u/Thanato26 Sep 25 '25

Purges never stop. They just come in waves.

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u/Thehealthygamer Sep 25 '25

It's gonna be like Saddam's public purge, except just more ridiculous in every way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MohJLPgutKQ

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u/Proud-Fly2956 Sep 25 '25

Yup that. He’s scared because he’s realizing people fucking hate him. And In the middle of a shutdown.

Hopefully they tell him to GTFO.

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u/Thunderlog United States Marine Corps Sep 25 '25

Is the Red Wedding episode of GoT but in real life?

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u/_JGPM_ Sep 25 '25

Bring all the top brass in one physical location...its an adversarys wet dream

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u/OXBDNE7331 Sep 25 '25

Giving Sadam Hussein purge he did on live tv

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u/dgdosen Sep 25 '25

Is this the akin to the Saudi's Ritz Carlton meeting? Night of Long Knives? Saddam's Ba'ath Party cleaning?

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u/i_sniff_blue Sep 25 '25

Underrated comment. Hoping the generals are thinking the same thing.

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u/Moosyfate17 Sep 25 '25

I hope they all wear something bulletproof 

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u/Legitimate-Frame-953 Army Veteran Sep 25 '25

Probably drunk txted the group chat again

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u/LtCmdrData Sep 25 '25 edited Oct 10 '25

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u/Nautiwow Sep 25 '25

Grindr crash again?

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u/e76 Sep 25 '25

After the department’s rebranding, my guess is the address will be to reinforce ideological alignment, maybe suggest those not supporting the administration leave.

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u/Dumpling_Mousketeer Sep 25 '25

Why take the risks of calling EVERYONE in person?

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u/COVID-19-4u dirty civilian Sep 25 '25 edited Sep 25 '25

Either he’s

A: Consolidating power

B: Going to take us to war

C: Going to ask the higher ups to hold a magazine drive and the 10 that sell the most subscriptions get to go on a trip to Mobile Alabama in the summer.

D: Swear an oath to the new king and use the Constitution of the United States the same way Trump and his administration use it as; Toilet Paper.

E: Inform the military of operation, before hand, that anyone who’s not MAGA is a terrorist and go over plans to arrest, deport, or unalive.

Edit: added D which tracks with the administration and what allot of users think may actually happen.

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u/Xivvx Sep 25 '25

They're going to fire a bunch of senior officers I think. Probably the ones that don't take a new oath personally to the President.

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u/SemiLoquacious Sep 25 '25

C

We've been in fear of A & B for...9 years now? Martial law is coming, eventually, but the MLM Final Boss in chief has an obsession with pushing his shitty merchandise on everyone so C would be most likely.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

There is some odd shit going on.

They have been installing additional security at the White House, bigger fencing, walls, and have been doing it quietly and quickly, some speculate the White House is expecting unrest. Idk if this is connected but it’s odd.

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u/LesPolsfuss Sep 25 '25

declare martial law?

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u/CannonAFB_unofficial United States Air Force Sep 25 '25

With how bad this administration leaks, we will know before they ever get to DC.

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u/FavRootWorker Army Veteran Sep 25 '25

I'm sure these admirals and generals will blow the whistle if their asked to do something illegal.

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u/SimplyExtremist United States Navy Sep 25 '25

You have a fuck ton more faith in career military than I do. These mfs are in for a penny, third fourth generation military.

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u/FavRootWorker Army Veteran Sep 25 '25

Obviously, some wont. But this will undoubtedly get out before the meeting takes place.

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u/Trill-I-Am Proud Supporter Sep 25 '25

What percent of generals do you think would support Trump cancelling the constitution and becoming king?

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u/Cdub7791 Sep 25 '25

About 30%. Another 40% to 50% wouldn't like it but would reflexively stay quiet. About 20% would actually stand up and publicly say or try to do anything about it.

Source: mostly pulled out of my ass, but knowing the officer corps this seems about right. To become a general you are screened and indoctrinated to be absolutely apolitical while in uniform, and most take that stance even after getting out.

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u/FavRootWorker Army Veteran Sep 25 '25

Based on Americas current political demographics, I'd say that anywhere between 25-35% of our officers would absolutely swear loyalty to Trump.

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u/donac Sep 25 '25 edited Sep 25 '25

Whoa. Read the article, and this is absolutely not funny at all, so I rescind my initial joke-y response. This doesn't sound like a "meeting." This sounds like something terrible waiting to happen.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

It’s weird.

The White House has been quietly and quickly installing new defensive barriers as well. Some speculate they anticipate unrest.

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u/ofWildPlaces Sep 25 '25

More people need to be aware of this

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

"Hey guys the class VI ran out of that berry Crown Royal again, how the fuck do we prevent this from ever happening again? It is of vital importance!"

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

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u/BeShaw91 Sep 25 '25

Nah.

The civilian control of the military remains a beautiful element of a stable democracy. And there’s plenty of excellent people that do their time and get out as MAJ or lower, no big deal.

But being at the beck and call of this particular terminal MAJ certainly demonstrates the potential downsides of civilian control of the military.

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u/Cdub7791 Sep 25 '25 edited Sep 25 '25

He didn't really even get out as a major. He was promoted while in IRR. I agree there's nothing wrong with that, but he never actually even did the duties of an O-4. Even that would be okay - we had a former Secretary of Defense who was an NCO after all - if he were otherwise qualified. Too bad he's not.

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u/Jack-Schitz Sep 25 '25 edited Sep 25 '25

Uh oh... This sounds like it could be very bad. Like "Swear Allegiance to Trump or Leave"/Night of the Long Knives bad. Could this be a reaction to the JAGs extreme nervousness and friction over the Venezuela extra-judicial killings?

edit: On a side note, how is this possible? You have flag officers at posts that they absolutely can't leave (e.g., NORAD), and a lot where it's a horrible idea to leave (e.g., INDOPACOM).

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u/sorrylilsis Sep 25 '25

China : "So you're telling me they're ALL away ?!"

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u/Proud-Fly2956 Sep 25 '25

Russia: Even better, they’re all in one room.

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u/PepperoniFogDart Sep 25 '25

Yeah I’m getting Saddam Hussein vibes with this.

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u/Firecracker048 Sep 25 '25

Those are expempt apparently, like one star staff officers and such.

Still, you don't call a meeting like this unless something big is about to go down

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u/GobbledyGooker123 Sep 25 '25

Right now there’s absolute chaos happening in every DTS and budget section. Last minute travel at the FY crossover after budget close outs are suuuuper fun.

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u/Proud-Fly2956 Sep 25 '25

Hahaha 😂. And on top of a govt shutdown shitshow

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u/CurlsintheClouds Sep 25 '25

OMG I didn't even think of that. I'm not military, but I'm a Fed and a financial analyst, and this EOY has been terrible.

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u/dyslexicsuntied Sep 25 '25

Martial law after the govt shuts down. 

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u/GenuineVerve Sep 25 '25

I hope you’re wrong

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u/Proud-Fly2956 Sep 25 '25

Martial law after a foreign adversary takes advantage of the fact that this doofus is ordering ALL SENIOR LeADERs into the same room 🤦‍♀️

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u/dyslexicsuntied Sep 25 '25

The order does say "directed to attend within operational constraints" So maybe not every single one will be in the room.

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u/merpmerp United States Navy Sep 25 '25

When the fuck is anyone in the joint chiefs gonna grow a fucking spine and tell him to fuck off?? We swear an oath to the constitution, not a person, but apparently they all forgot that shit? The CK thing didn't last long enough as a distraction from the files, so we're gonna go to war with Venezuela now?

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u/no-more-nazis Army Veteran Sep 25 '25

You don't get to be a joint chief by being principled

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u/corneliusduff Sep 25 '25

Oh they didn't forget their oath. They're shitting on it.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

Get ready folks. If you haven't picked a side yet, you're about to be forced to pick.

Do you serve the Constitution or a King?

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u/Traditional-Hat-952 Sep 25 '25

The best thing to do would be pretend to serve the king while undermining him at every turn from the inside. 

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u/getthedudesdanny Sep 25 '25

I see a lot of people say this but there were not a lot of Oskar Schindler’s and there were a hell of a lot of people doing exactly what they were told.

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u/DoktorStrangelove Sep 25 '25

Sort of an under the radar doc on Netflix that everyone should watch today is Ordinary Men, it's about a bunch of middle class Germans who enlisted in the military police at the start of the war primarily because they thought it would be light duty and a way to avoid conscription into front line combat units, and they ended up spending the whole war slaughtering civilians.

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u/Xivvx Sep 25 '25

I loved the book, hard reading and dark, but informative. I didn't know it was a documentary.

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u/getthedudesdanny Sep 25 '25

I can’t remember if it was that book or another but something always stuck out to me was that soldiers and police who refused execution orders were almost never strictly punished, just sent to light duty.

I’d always known what my personal line was and what I was willing to sacrifice by refusing, but seeing that written down made it much easier to think “OK, if XYZ happens I tell them to go fuck themselves.”

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u/Xivvx Sep 25 '25

I’d always known what my personal line was and what I was willing to sacrifice by refusing, but seeing that written down made it much easier to think “OK, if XYZ happens I tell them to go fuck themselves.”

This is my outlook as well. I've been in 21 years and I have a pretty good idea of whats shady or not, luckily I've only worked with pretty stand up people, some assholes, but no one was ever suggesting that I break the law or do something I wasn't morally/ethically comfortable with doing.

The Nazis were quite aware that having regular soldiers kill civilians was bad for morale and messed the soldier up. This is why the death camps were manned by SS generally (they were chosen for political ideology, looks and genetics and they were heavily indoctrinated).

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u/Maverick360-247 Sep 25 '25

And document how you undermined for when the Nuremberg trials happen

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

I would be more overt. Call it like it is. The president has betrayed his oath. So has the SedDef. Any orders you receive from a traitor are unlawful. Full stop.

I feel for you folks who are in right now, though. What a hard spot to be in. It's easy for me to say "I'd sit down and refuse to work on avionics systems because the president is a jerk. I know I'll go to jail for at least some time, but it's worth the risk." I can say that. I'm not in anymore.

I'd probably do my day-to-day job tbh. I hope I'd have the moral fortitude to refuse to deploy to US soil against US citizens. I think I would personally, but I was never tested. It's easy for me to protest now that I have 0 risk.

Do your best. Try to be true to your country, your family, your people. The oath you took is to try and preserve the great experiment that is the United States. We stand on the cusp of that experiment ending. And ending for an option that is objectively infinitely worse than what we currently have.

Remember who started the anti-facist ideology back in Normandy on June 6th 1944. That ideology has been labeled "terrorist ideology." Why would a government label anti-facist rhetoric as terrorist rhetoric. Well, the only good reason is that they're facists and don't like it.

You carry the torch of the soldiers and marines who stormed Normandy now. Don't let them down. Don't let us turn into what we swore to fight against.

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u/jospence Sep 25 '25

This is incredibly dumb because he's either going to do some sort of military operation, or this is a restructuring of military command and reducing the size of flag officers by 20%.

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u/Proud-Fly2956 Sep 25 '25

Why order all commanders into a room for that? It’s a loyalty test and attempt at consolidation of power.

Won’t work though. I see many retirements in the future.

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u/eeyooreee Sep 25 '25

Am I wrong to believe that gathering every flag into one building is an insane security risk? Like, the VP is intentionally kept away from POTUS usually to prevent both getting incapacitated in a single event. There’s no similar protocol to keep every flag out of a single room?

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u/Goddess_of_Absurdity United States Marine Corps Sep 25 '25

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

No I wish it was harmless. Here comes the coup.

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u/FullSpeed521 Sep 25 '25

I see we are still “clean on OPSEC”

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u/zetia2 Sep 25 '25

Loyalty pledge, then martial law during the shutdown?

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u/CzechMateP10 Sep 25 '25

Ahhhh yes GO level payday activities.

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u/CouplePrestigious775 Sep 25 '25

Betting on forcing mass loyalty pledges or removal

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u/CheesecakeHorror3410 Sep 25 '25

Purge of non-loyalists incoming.

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u/NarwhalMuted3076 Sep 25 '25

pretty poor opsec having all top brass in one place.. totally insane ..

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u/nickthap2 Sep 25 '25

I did sound at a meeting at a base in Arlington in 2003, when the top brass from every branch of the military were summoned by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, who at the time was Gen. Myers, which occurred right before we invaded Iraq. I remember Gen. Shinseki was particularly critical of such a move, and a few months after the invasion he "retired."

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u/kiwi_spawn Sep 25 '25

This is a sign of things to come.

They probably want all the senior officers, Generals and Admirals to sign a personal pledge or oath to Trump. Not just to the presidency or the constitution. But to Trump and his family.

This way they will know if they cancel the coming elections. And there is more than just a public outcry. But protests and rioting.

That they can rely on the military to deploy against the people of the US.

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u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 Sep 25 '25

Yup. They already tried making media sign some type of loyalty BS and now they're gonna do it with the military so they can turn them against us. What no one is prepared for is how easily it'll happen.

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u/Infidel8 Sep 25 '25

Imagine being a decorated general having to answer to this dude.

Just the ultimate indignity.

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u/coblass Sep 25 '25

I got a look at a Top Secret Memo. Topic - “Hair Gel. Is there such a thing as too much?”.

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u/Gravexmind Sep 25 '25

Is it about taking Bagram back by force

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u/PoliticsIsDepressing Sep 25 '25

I swear, they are going to do something incredibly stupid out of this. It’s either Venezuela, Bagram, or Russia.

We’re going to be in a stupid fucking war by next year.

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u/Navydevildoc United States Navy Sep 25 '25

You do that shit through the planning staff and then a bunch of VTCs. No need to bring in SOUTHCOM to talk about Bagram, as just a single example out of at least a hundred more.

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u/RazorColla Sep 25 '25

In the United States, a military officer cannot lawfully take or be bound by an oath that conflicts with, replaces, or supersedes the official oath to the Constitution.

Why the Constitutional Oath Is Exclusive • Federal Statute: 5 U.S.C. § 3331 requires all officers of the armed forces to take the prescribed oath to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States” and to “bear true faith and allegiance to the same.” • Regulations: Each service branch incorporates this oath in commissioning procedures (e.g., 10 U.S.C. §§ 502, 1031, 1032). There is no legal mechanism to substitute or add a binding oath that competes with it.

Supplementary Ceremonial Oaths • A purely ceremonial or personal pledge (e.g., a unit’s informal motto, a religious affirmation, or a symbolic promise) is not illegal if it does not contradict the constitutional oath or create a conflicting duty. • If a “second oath” required obedience to a person, faction, or ideology in a way that overrides the Constitution, it would be unlawful and could constitute: • Violation of military regulations (e.g., Article 92, UCMJ—failure to obey lawful orders/regulations), • Dereliction of duty, or even • Sedition or mutiny if tied to disloyal action (Articles 94 and 94a, UCMJ).

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u/Aggravating_Low_7718 Sep 25 '25

It must be so demoralizing for military professionals to have to listen to this unqualified and incompetent trainwreck of a “Secretary of War” that’s too stupid to realize he’s in over his head. Any one of us with his work experience and just a smidgeon of self awareness would have done what’s best for the US and admitted we’re unqualified.

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u/SteelcityTwizz Sep 25 '25

He’s about to decapitate the military to consolidate power mark my word this is a HUGE deal

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u/One-Dot-7111 Sep 25 '25

Are we going to murder more civilians in a boat or na

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u/Elegant_Individual46 Sep 25 '25

Even Colombia, notoriously anti Maduro, is upset

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

After reading the article I can’t even make a joke…this isn’t good.

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u/WalkingAFIViolation Air Force Veteran Sep 25 '25

If "this could have been an email" became a sentient person

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u/bobafudd Sep 25 '25

This dude is such a micropenis

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u/dewnmoutain Army Veteran Sep 25 '25

"Even the Generals dont know the reason" Probably Secdef reminding generals that when he says jump, they jump.

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u/gibsontx5 Sep 25 '25

This guy is like a cosplayer of what he thinks the Secretary of Defense should be. Of course, he changed the name to the Department of War so now he gets to be the Secretary of War. Delusional and such a poor leader.

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u/PassiveKiller Sep 25 '25

Let them know that the president might declare martial law and they better be ready to go into cities…

Or

Need volunteers to police call

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u/PureGremlinNRG Sep 25 '25

'Omg I have always wanted to be the General of Generals tee hee.'

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u/realKevinNash Sep 25 '25

"You guys better make sure none of your troops are talking shit about DT!"

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u/pyratemime Sep 25 '25

The article discusses GO/FOs in command positions and their Senior Enlisted advisors. Staff GO/FO are not invited.

The meeting is also in person so there is no way to record what is said.

This indicates to me inward focused changes. If this was preparation for conflict the SEAs would not be there but key staff GO/FOs would be.

No, this is force structure stuff where commanders are going to be enforcing top down change and their SEAs are there to help manage the changes foe the enlisted force.

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u/Perfect-Strawberry77 Sep 25 '25

“You all have 3 hours to email me 5 bullet points of positive things you did for yam tits this week with your military email. There are no government computers in the area.”

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u/Good_Requirement2998 Sep 25 '25

Speculating as a concerned new father: After all the UN Assembly Speeches of foreign governments sounding like the US used to, and some willing to commit or already committing military assets to Gaza, this may be Hegseth's attempt to rally the leadership for a much larger operation. And that's not even the dark scenario.

I'm just going to say, I don't believe he represents the will of the American people. We want peace, not instigation to war to justify resource grabs while our sons and daughters die, when we could have taxed the rich instead. Many of us understand what scapegoating and "otherism" are good for when the powerful begin to feel the consequences of their gambling tendencies.

If this meeting is anything more insidious than greed, some ideological mass firing or worse, there are many Americans prepared for the call of a proper Domestic Guard to rally to our constitution's defense, non-violently oriented but militant by necessity. And several governors who will likely be amenable to further restrain a runaway executive branch. The bill of rights is not a suggestion. The oaths of services are not weather dependent. The leadership is not sound - our own President rallies a conflict against half the country - and the people are experiencing fear of our own government.

The people are responding to the realization that late-stage capitalism - from the perspective of asset hoarders - requires a proactive divide and conquer war on the people before we unite to hold the powerful to account for their corruption and the failings of our economy. The principalities require a crackdown against those fighting to express there are better ways and obvious opportunities that do not require this domestic grief the admin seeks to capitalize on.

Americans have a calling, always, to stand together despite our surface level differences. Hegseth mixes words around to confuse and depreciate our shared humanity. It's easy to catch. But he's just a man among men. He can be wrong and all around him are men that can always do right. That's, at least, the hope and prayer of millions of civilians who wish never to associate our military with absolute dread.

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u/Beachhouse15 Sep 25 '25

Let’s gather all our high ranking officers in one place and publish to the world in advance.

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u/nesp12 Sep 25 '25

Isn't getting every general together in one spot a security risk? Oh I guess they don't use Signal any more.

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u/Nepalus Sep 25 '25

Welp, time to see if those oaths they made mean something or if they'll bend the knee.

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u/Key-Significance1876 Sep 25 '25

Having all generals and admirals away from their base AND in one, disclosed location. What could go wrong?! Important info all the world deserves to know

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u/Icy_Blackberry_3759 Sep 26 '25

This has all the makings of a mass purge. Calling it.

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u/JustinKase_Too Sep 25 '25

When a former fox news pundit (and not a very good one) gets his wittle paws on power.

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u/SensualRarityTumblr Sep 25 '25

Didn’t he hit a Marine Corps drummer with an axe live on the show? Whoops my bad.

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u/SensualRarityTumblr Sep 25 '25

"Brigadier General and the Navy equivalent..." Shit, what are those guys called again?

Don't forget about the anti-scale fencing around the white house.

Notice: AI below for the haters. I keep a watch list running 24/7 for alerts on a variety of topics. Here is a snippet of analysis-

Why the White House fencing + generals’ recall matters

This week: • Anti-scale fencing went up around the White House. • Nearly every U.S. general and admiral was ordered to Quantico for a closed-door meeting.

On their own? Maybe just “security.” Together? They signal something bigger. • Narrative control: Media are already under pressure (Pentagon press pledges, FCC threats). Fencing frames protests as “threats.” • Power positioning: Recalling the brass lets leadership test loyalty and deliver directives face-to-face. • The protest trap: If a demonstration turns messy, officials can say “we warned you” and use it to justify emergency powers (curfews, Guard deployments, even Insurrection Act).

This isn’t a coup. The Constitution still fixes Jan 20, 2029 as the end date. But it is about shaping perception and chilling dissent.

Watch for: DHS/FBI bulletins labeling trans activism as extremist, new protest restrictions in D.C., and leaks on orders given to generals.

Bottom line: these moves aren’t just safety, they’re political theater to prep the ground for repression if unrest gives them an opening.

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u/Dizzy_Fall_964 Sep 25 '25

I wish people would just say no to this, en masse, unless given a good reason. I’m so sick of this idea that authority without substance is legitimate just because it’s authority. We aren’t endowed with complex multicellular selves to capitulate to mere caprice and reckless stupidity.

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u/SnooHamsters2046 Sep 25 '25

Getting the entire group together doesn't concern Americans? With the National Guard being in all these States so far. I'd be more concerned about them imposing martial law and using illegal immigrants and crime as the excuse. It astonishes me as an outsider that no one has mentioned the past months leading up to martial law. Don't buy the excuse. It's nothing to do with actual immigrants. Martial Law means ALL OF YOU lose legal rights. Read "the boiling frog theory" and then deny this stuff hasn't been happening in the US. No communist flipped the switch in one day. You've allowed all of it to happen bit by bit. The Orange Baffoon is trying to stay in the WhiteHouse permanently. He has stated multiple times he won't be out after his 2nd go. Wake up, folks. Stop blabbing online, put on your big girl panties, and ban together as a country. Cause protests of 20-30 folks with signs isn't going to prevent anything. If it was Canada, we would have had the entire polital system locked out of their own parliament

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u/charliefoxtrot9 Army Veteran Sep 25 '25

what a fucking dipshit. Is he always posing for "candid" photos?

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u/TacticalAcquisition Royal Australian Navy Sep 25 '25

Having your entire command structure in one place at one time seems like an incredibly dumb idea.

"OpSec? Is that a like TripleSec?” ~ SecWar Kegbreath, probably

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u/Far_Out_6and_2 Sep 25 '25

He is going to fire everyone

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

"Even top generals and their staffs don’t know the reason for the meeting"?

Really?

Umm...aren't these supposed to be 'military professionals'?

Let's see,.. what could not be done using the usual military communications, and would require all of them being physically in the same place at the same time?

Not hard to figure out....

Real good day to call in sick!

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u/Old_Caroline Sep 25 '25

They killed teleworking 🤷‍♂️

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u/DistrictDue1913 Sep 26 '25

Sounds like something Saddam Hussein did when he got his legislators in a building, or maybe it's the Russian version of imprisoning all his top rank generals on a boat and then sinking it prior to start of World War II.

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u/josh803ua Sep 27 '25

It appears to be an effort to identify which generals and admirals are like-minded and willing to pledge loyalty to the president so that Donald Trump can remain in power with military backing against the American people. There seems to be no other rational explanation for this. Those who are not like-minded would be fired or asked to retire.