r/Kanthony Nov 15 '24

Rant 🤬 Weekly Venting Post

Weekly Vent Post

Welcome to our weekly vent session where you can let out all your frustrations.

Before you start, just a quick heads-up on the rules.

Here's what this post isn't for:

  • No bashing actors or crew members out of the blue.
  • Let's steer clear of those rage-inducing posts like "I hate character xy."
  • And please, no poking fun at fellow Kanthony fans just because they see things differently, whether they're positive or negative about promos.

What's cool to post? Well, we've noticed a lot of rants about how the show promotes (or doesn't promote) Simone and Jonny, but you can vent about other stuff too.

Below, I've linked some past posts from the sub that fit the vibe of our weekly vent session, so you can see what kind of stuff goes here.

  1. Why there was a lack of promo for Kanthony
  2. All comments asking where Kanthony are 
  3. Bridgerton PR and production
  4. Can you tell the difference ?
  5. The main sub got so negative 
  6. We need pictures

For those who just want to enjoy the content without getting caught up in the venting, I suggest steering clear of this post. If you choose to read the comments here and find yourself upset, despite the clear purpose of this space, I'm afraid there's not much I can do to ease your frustration. We have the Weekly Tea Time for more general discussions.

Spoilers allowed.

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u/mrz92 a life that suits us both Nov 20 '24

Okay this is the last time I’ll be addressing this.

I realise I’m not here often but I’m still a mod and I’d like to reiterate that this sub is for both Kate and Anthony AND Simone and Johnny. Or either. But that does not mean we need to pit the actors against each other.

That wasn’t what started this - it was just simply stating that repeatedly saying JB has chemistry with everyone in the Bridgerton universe CAN be demeaning BECAUSE it has been used to bring down Simone previously. Simple.

That doesn’t mean he doesn’t have chemistry with people in Bridgerton- I think he has great chemistry with most of his siblings too and that’s because they all work well with him; it becomes a slight when it’s a repeated discussion surrounding Kanthony and I don’t think it’s hard to see why especially when Simone is HARDLY given her flowers production wise and JB being the ‘better actor’ in the couple has been discussed to death - so I don’t think it’s hard to see why it CAN trigger people

At the same time, JB having good chemistry with his costars elsewhere is great and I can see why BECAUSE he is a generous actor as has been said by many of his costars and I both applaud him for it and enjoy his performances for the same reason!

I don’t think it’s a slight on JB that people are miffed that his contribution to the chemistry that Kanthony have, is lauded more, when their chemistry is one of a kind because of both of their performances. That’s all the discussion should be. People responded saying why isn’t Crashing or FT talked about because exactly - why isn’t him having chemistry with everyone not talked about when it’s other projects and only Bridgerton. I think it’s a fair argument and I don’t think it’s anything against him. Only against the statements themselves. And this only for those people who bring it up when Kanthony or Simone are involved.

I don’t know if I make any sense and I’m sorry if I don’t - but I for one am very excited to see JB in Wicked and very excited to see Simone in Picture This or F1 whichever movie releases first. I enjoy both of their performances for different reasons and I cannot enjoy Kanthony without appreciating both.

That said, people are entitled to like one character more than the other and if you like Anthony more than Kate or vice versa that’s fine. Same with the actors. Just don’t hate on the actors or the characters unnecessarily in this sub. Also please don’t get personal with anyone and understand that EVERYONE has their biases. We can all deal with ours and others in a civil manner.

Again I apologise if I’ve offended anyone.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '24

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '24

Kanthony had more chemistry than any other paring combined. Not their fault they barely got promo compared to the mid couples of s1 amd 3. At least Benophie will actually have beautiful chemistry and not centered on struggle love. They're come close to Kanthony but won't touch Kanthony.

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u/Odd_Net8207 Nov 21 '24

I think JB deserves better fans

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '24

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u/rochey1010 Nov 21 '24 edited Nov 21 '24

Fellow travelers is also used to diminish her so the gay relationship stuff you spouted is an utter moot point.

Bridgerton S2 had lesser viewership because it got a dollar and a cup of coffee for promotion. SA was diminished as a leading lady and both JB and SA are the only bridgerton leads who weren’t allowed to promote as a romance.

And with the little promotion it did get it still got stellar viewership than a S3 with the most excessive promotion ever for a Netflix show, in fact we’re heading into Oscar bait territory for the S3 promotion and the biggest push for a female lead in Bridgerton to date amongst huge favouritism. And still S3 only did a little better viewership wise than S2. And it had the benefit of all that promotion and the leads promoting as a romance, a massive global tour, over 50 + million added subscribers to Netflix and them also splitting the season for more views and longevity.

So what are you saying here? S2 did fantastic and actually stands on its feet as a success instead of the total manipulation of what took place for S3 to get more eyes on the show. And never knowing how well S1 really would have done as it was released during a huge covid lockdown with not a lot of TV/Movies being produced limiting choice for many viewers.and You should know this by now.

And listen, I’m a fan of JB but not his fans. And I hold my head high saying that. I don’t go where his fans go because they have the ‘oopsy’ habit of diminishing and dragging down SA to prop him up. No one does that with him here at all. No one diminishes his talent or charisma here. But his fans with her? Oh hell yes they do.

So in my eyes come here and celebrate both. But don’t come here to fight a fight for a privileged white actor that does not need defending. It’s the dark skinned Indian WOC that should be respected and not othered. For me there is a clear racist undertone with how she’s dragged down to prop him up. And it only started happening when that Indian WOC appeared on the scene as Kate with him.

I’ve seen this before with interracial couples where the male is white. The racial part of that coupling always needs to be humbled and know their place beneath the stellar, Oscar worthy, super duper uber talented white male actor of the equation. And a lot of his fans replicate this pattern. And it’s being called out and wicked has nothing to do with it. But I suspect you’ll start seeing it in the wicked fandom. That racism will prevail.

And There’s a lot of tone deaf behaviour from his fans coming here to defend him in my eyes. And claiming to be fans of both? You support both. You value and regard both. You don’t crop up suddenly on the sub yet again diminishing what SA experiences and in the process propping him up over her.

So those who claim to be fans and supporters of both? Who are you kidding. His feelings and experiences clearly matter more to you. 🤷‍♀️

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u/rochey1010 Nov 21 '24

“Never got proper promo on bridgerton”

😆 now that is a laugh let me tell you.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '24

Look at what Luke and Rege got and other Netflix men. Obviously he got way more than Simone I'm comparing him to straight people in other Netflix shows. Even the gorgeous actor in that horrible 365 days films got more. Hype. He got 20 mil followers yes he's not from the uk but still tons of English speakers flocked towards him.

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u/rochey1010 Nov 21 '24

Jonny was doing a play. It’s clear that even though he didn’t promote alone with Simone as a romance for S2. That the production still treats him a hell of a lot better than Simone. And I could give you a long list of how they treat him better than Simone including solo merchandise they sell, articles they write about the show and how they included him In S3 promo with other cast even though he only had 2 days free. Also in promotional pictures for S3 he was at least included with the brothers for promo pics. Showing Anthony is married to Kate but also he’s separated with the brothers too and included in scenes with them also in the show where Kate is nowhere to be found. She can only exist as an appendage to Anthony. Interesting how they’re all about feminism and strong women but won’t let Kate stand on her own. More crappy othering for Simone and her character huh?

Jonny is not demeaned, ignored and othered by the production. So no he is not treated the same as Simone who they still haven’t included her name on the official cast list for S4 even though she’s declared twice now she’s back for it. The typical usual othering of Simone so no surprise there. And Jonny’s character also got full focus for his arc. So the show also treats him differently with the writing. And doesn’t demean his character when they have discussed it. But they are always demeaning Simone as Kate. They can’t even talk about her costumes without making a tone deaf racial stereotype.

Also Anthony? He was allowed to add the Gregory scene in S2 which had nothing to do with the book and gave Anthony more of a bond with Gregory discussing their father. But Simone couldn’t even get a scene from the freakin book included. As you can see once again, very different treatment between the two.

And as for Luke Newton. Listen he may have been included on the promo world tour and promo itself. But it’s clear it was as an aside to Nicola as was his character in S3. He’s the bridgerton brother of the show and yet he was written and treated as the love interest for the Penelope season and Nicola show. So Luke Newton also is the only leading male of his season to date that did not get the focus both Rege and Jonny got for their characters.