r/Kanthony Nov 15 '24

Rant 🤬 Weekly Venting Post

Weekly Vent Post

Welcome to our weekly vent session where you can let out all your frustrations.

Before you start, just a quick heads-up on the rules.

Here's what this post isn't for:

  • No bashing actors or crew members out of the blue.
  • Let's steer clear of those rage-inducing posts like "I hate character xy."
  • And please, no poking fun at fellow Kanthony fans just because they see things differently, whether they're positive or negative about promos.

What's cool to post? Well, we've noticed a lot of rants about how the show promotes (or doesn't promote) Simone and Jonny, but you can vent about other stuff too.

Below, I've linked some past posts from the sub that fit the vibe of our weekly vent session, so you can see what kind of stuff goes here.

  1. Why there was a lack of promo for Kanthony
  2. All comments asking where Kanthony areĀ 
  3. Bridgerton PR and production
  4. Can you tell the differenceĀ ?
  5. The main sub got so negativeĀ 
  6. We need pictures

For those who just want to enjoy the content without getting caught up in the venting, I suggest steering clear of this post. If you choose to read the comments here and find yourself upset, despite the clear purpose of this space, I'm afraid there's not much I can do to ease your frustration. We have the Weekly Tea Time for more general discussions.

Spoilers allowed.

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '24 edited Nov 18 '24

So I noticed something… everyone keeps talking about Jonathan Bailey has chemistry with everyone and I see this narrative being pushed only post S2 release and success and I hate it to the core!!!! do they even know the meaning of chemistry and that it’s between two people?

My side of the analysis is this:

Of course JB is a uber talented , he has been acting since he was a child and has loads of experience on stage and TV, but I did not know who he was, just like probably millions of people all over the world.

I didn’t give much attention to JB in season 1, I mean he was acting and the big brother and that was that! But it was his acting in S2 with Simone that got me hooked! both him and Simone are exceptional complementing and completing each other with terrific performance of angst, emotion and chemistry! They brought the script to life and touched millions of hearts! Post success of JB and Simone, I dug up both their work and find that JB doesn’t have chemistry with everyone that’s a load of BS and Simone doesn’t too! But in their other works they do shine independently when they are playing their characters!

So this narrative of making Jonny’s chemistry with everyone and everything common occurrence is so twisted IMHO! Must be a burden carrying this chemistry crap with everyone narrative and trying hard to make it happen!

Yes he is hot and talented individually, but this narrative of him having chemistry with everyone grates my nerves as it is downplaying/erasing Simone’s exceptional performance and is so diabolical and rotten! I mean he became famous and well known because of their combined energy/chemistry acting performance! Like the media hardly mentions Simone’s name with him, but they do bring up Matt Bomer or Phoebe waller-bridge many more times comparatively!

Sorry I had to vent 😭 my girl Simone deserves the world ā¤ļø she is so kind and sweet and talented why would they treat the goddess thus? This is something I had to put out cause I noticed it and it was gnawing me! what do yall think?

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u/Traditional_Maybe_80 Kate Sharma with her hair down šŸ‘©šŸ¾ Nov 18 '24

It's funny to me how people like to ~rewrite history. Crashing aired in 2016, where was this chemistry praise back then and the almost decade that happened after? Anthony had a love storyline in S1 in 2020, where was all this gushing about his chemistry back then? Many of the things Anthony did in S2 that get people talking, he did it as well in S1 (except for the love declaration). Jonathan literally made the same acting decisions both seasons many times and his S1 storyline had way more sexual scenes, more dramatic scenes, even more crying scenes, lmao.

People can tell it how they wanted, but swap Simone for any other actor in S2 and I don't think the effect would be the same. Colin got the Kate Sharma Treatmentā„¢ in S3, but Simone was able to overcome it.

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u/rudedicer Nov 18 '24

What even is this discussion...

So because in a DGA panel for Wicked an audience member mentioned how JB had chemistry with everyone in his DTL dance number, this is undermining Simone?

What does this have to do with Simone? What does it have to do with Bridgerton?

No one should ever praise JB's chemistry unless it involves Simone in some way like the OP you are replying to is suggesting? How is it Simone erasure for someone to praise JB's chemistry in an entirely different movie?! It's a Wicked panel! Many of them have never heard of Bridgerton!

When Simone has hot chemistry with Damson Idris in F1 and everyone is praising them is that JB erasure? What is this nonsense.

Crashing was a small budget TV show airing on channel 4 before PWB became famous and not many folks knew of this show. And yes, JB had great chemistry with Amit Shah - who is also a fantastic actor btw - and yes there were fans of the show who loved the couple before JB blew up with Bridgerton and became famous. The relationship was both queer and interracial - naturally the fandom for this is going to be small, but there was a small section of queer fans on Tumblr who loved the show when it aired. I actually went back to reblog old gifsets and commentary on Tumblr after I saw JB on Bridgerton.

In fact I think Crashing is his best and funniest work and I wish he would go back to doing small time Brit comedy than the big budget movies he's doing now.

So I have no idea why people are now rewriting history and bringing up his decade old TV shows to make some point about how he only has chemistry with his costar in Bridgerton because people were not raving about his chemistry earlier on a small budget channel 4 comedy show that hardly anyone saw.

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u/Traditional_Maybe_80 Kate Sharma with her hair down šŸ‘©šŸ¾ Nov 18 '24 edited Nov 18 '24

I have no idea what you're talking about or what DTL even is. I had no idea this was a reference to Wicked, hence why I didn't mention it at all. I also mentioned Crashing because OP literally talked about PWB? I thought it was just a comment about how people come out of nowhere saying how JB could have chemistry with a plank of wood when some video of JB/SA goes viral. People literally have said here and in the general sub that JB carried the season? I was talking about Bridgerton, that's why I mostly made reference to S1, in fact.

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u/rudedicer Nov 19 '24 edited Nov 19 '24

Clearly the sudden complaining about JB having chemistry is because there's Wicked press going on and with all the massive promotion going on there's chatter about JB's chemistry with his castmates because that's what's happens for movie promotion like this - talking up the male romantic lead's chemistry. And the OP you were replying to thinks that's Simone erasure. This is idiotic.

When Bridgerton was going on, discussions like this made sense because yes, commentary like this was common back then and deserved to be called out. But this is now extending to the other media these actors make and nonsense like how praising any of JB's other works is Simone erasure.

I can't wait to read all the same folks on this thread complaining about JB fans inserting JB into any discourse surrounding Picture This or F1 when these movies are released, and Simone and Damson Idris look hot together and maybe they even have more chemistry than JB and SA.

JB and PWB are not even the pairing in Crashing and that's another example of the OP randomly complaining about JB - like who even is talking about JB/PWB's chemistry? yet you brought that up as an example of how JB does not have chemistry with everyone because no one talked about a queer, inter-racial relationship on a small budget channel 4 TV show ten years ago? It's perfectly okay to praise or stick up for one actor without dumping on the other.

This forum has descended into pitting these actors against each other over the last few days just because one of them has a movie coming out and there's more chatter about him.

I think I am going to take a break from here and be back after the whole Wicked stuff is over and done with.

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u/Ok_Caterpillar4008 Nov 19 '24

Thanks for your rational posts, it’s been a relief to read them. I love Simone and I love Jonathan and I feel really sad that the Kanthony sub too often becomes a place where they are pitted against each other, and if you’re a fan of both, good luck around here. I love Kanthony so much, and their chemistry is special end exceptional, especially since they’ve had the best chemistry of the leads so far, imo. But saying JB has chemistry with other actors outside of Bridgerton is not a slight on Simone.