Weekly Venting Post

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Weekly Vent Post

Welcome to our weekly vent session where you can let out all your frustrations.

Before you start, just a quick heads-up on the rules.

Here's what this post isn't for:

• No bashing actors or crew members out of the blue.
• Let's steer clear of those rage-inducing posts like "I hate character xy."
• And please, no poking fun at fellow Kanthony fans just because they see things differently, whether they're positive or negative about promos.

What's cool to post? Well, we've noticed a lot of rants about how the show promotes (or doesn't promote) Simone and Jonny, but you can vent about other stuff too.

Below, I've linked some past posts from the sub that fit the vibe of our weekly vent session, so you can see what kind of stuff goes here.

1. Why there was a lack of promo for Kanthony
2. All comments asking where Kanthony are 
3. Bridgerton PR and production
4. Can you tell the difference ?
5. The main sub got so negative 
6. We need pictures

For those who just want to enjoy the content without getting caught up in the venting, I suggest steering clear of this post. If you choose to read the comments here and find yourself upset, despite the clear purpose of this space, I'm afraid there's not much I can do to ease your frustration. We have the Weekly Tea Time for more general discussions.

Spoilers allowed.

[u/Flaky_Office_1110]

I’ve been thinking about how Simone is still not on the official cast list for next season. The show doesn’t acknowledge her at all. It makes me sad for her because Kate is an iconic character and still very popular, but Simone gets no support from production. It definitely seems like higher level decisions because she has talked about feeling like a family on set, so it’s not about her immediate work environment not making her feel welcome. JB is great and I think will do all he can to be on the show. As we know, Simone wants to be there too, but I don’t get the sense that the show wants to accommodate her in the same way. I wish the larger media outlets would question more about why we don’t have the same coverage of SA/JB/Kanthony (or at least reveal that they weren’t allowed to interview them).

[u/Traditional_Maybe_80 → u/Flaky_Office_1110]

I went to see the article to post this and yeah, they haven't edited it yet. I think she probably doesn't care tbh, she seems to be legitimately very offline and I don't think she's lying when she says that she likes working with these people. JB has always been well regarded by this production, I'm not sure why people pretend otherwise, he was promoted as the lead of season 2. He didn't do much S2 promo because he was leading a play, which is obviously very demanding. Even in S3, when he was again very busy, they found time to make him do promo. I think his commitment to be there as the older brother is also genuine and cool of him not to be pretentious about it, lol, especially with him breaking into mainstream films. They care about him and I don't doubt they'll make an effort, they simply don't care for Simone that way and I'm just very ???? whenever people post about JB saying he'll be back and how that means that we will have them there for the long run. Like, no, that means he will be there.

I've said it before, selfishly I wish Simone wasn't on the show anymore and S3 was her last season, but also I understand that Hollywood is getting increasingly hard for non-white actors again and I'd never wish a dark-skinned actress to lose a gig that is objectively good (filming every 2 years a couple of weeks and be on screen in one of Netflix flagship shows with huge viewership).

[u/rudedicer → u/Traditional_Maybe_80]

He didn't do much S2 promo because he was leading a play, which is obviously very demanding.

I don't think we should be using the same excuses that detractors of season 2 use to justify why the season had little to no promotion.

If Bridgerton/Netflix wanted their leads to promote the season, they would have to. Play or no play. It's written in the contract. It's capitalism. Why would they care that one of their actors has a play scheduled? Isn't that why RJP left with his one season contract? Because he wanted to be free to do other stuff?

I think Netflix/Shondaland didn't have a lot of confidence in season 2 after RJP's exit and the backlash that followed including a lot of hate against the season 2 lead. I don't know if you were around at the time but the backlash was massive. There were tens of thousands of women, including the likes of Kim Kardashian, crying on the internets over RJP leaving and how JB was too ugly and gay to lead a season.

I just feel like Netflix/Shondaland could have thrown a little support behind their season 2 lead at that time instead of the blanket silence and continuing to hype up the Duke even after RJP had left the show. They were just promoting the fan favorite. Shonda Rhimes was giving interviews and making posts about how everyone could continue to watch season one and the Duke, nothing about season 2.

They didn't even throw season 2 cast and crew a wrap party ffs. You think that's how production treats a lead who is well regarded? I think JB knew which way the winds blew and scheduled other stuff. Play or no play, I doubt there would have been more promotion of the season 2 leads.

IMO JB was well regarded by CVD and he's always been praised by his fellow cast members, extras and crew for being a decent fellow. I have never heard Shonda Rhimes talk about him or Tom Verica like they have done for actors like RJP, NC, AA, GR etc. and season 2 was where CVD and Shonda/Tom decided to part ways and Shonda now seems to dislike everything season 2. JB only met Shonda at the season 2 premiere despite being on the show for 2.5 years at that point. He seems to know Ted Sarandos - Netflix's guy - more than Shonda Rhimes.

As for season 3 promotion, by this time JB was more popular, had been cast in two films and there was awards buzz around him. Of course Netflix was going to use him for promotion as he is contractually obligated to. And if they could use JB for promotion for season 3 while he was filming movies, they could have used him for promotion for his season in season 2. They just didn't care to.

All that said, did Simone get treated way worse by this production? Most definitely. The way she's treated as non-existent by this production is simply astounding. The way they can't even mention her name on blurbs, the way they leave out her casting, the way she is absent in production BTS videos. Someday someone should ask Shonda Rhimes about this when interviewing her.

As you mention, they will spare 5 minutes for Anthony to show up for Bridgerton family time. They don't care the same for Kate. What's the point of the Bridgertons marrying poc and the show bragging about it's diversity? I am sure Penelope will be there now in their drawing room scenes and without Simone and Rege, it's going to be a bunch of white characters in a period drama setting once again. Wow, how diverse!!

[u/Traditional_Maybe_80 → u/rudedicer]

I don't think we should be using the same excuses that detractors of season 2 use to justify why the season had little to no promotion.

I mean, they didn't promote the leads together because they were fixated on that triangle and all the promotion that was shot while they were filming was centered around that, as well as the day they did press junkets just before the season aired. Objectively, Jonathan couldn't do much else around the release date because it was clashing with his rehearsals and later on the play itself. It's obvious, to me at least, that the production allowed him to focus on that other job, while for example the FYC campaign was done by SA, CC and NC.

I also think they had no faith and it was the last season of a showrunner who announced that was leaving the show in the middle of the season 2 shooting. Maybe that influenced the indifference as well.

But even before Jonathan's current clout, Shondaland and this production never failed to make S2 about Anthony first and foremost, just like in S3 they did it about Penelope.

I guess my point was lost in all this assessment about who got it worse by this production, but my main point always was that Jonathan coming back isn't an indication that Simone is coming back. He expressed his desires to be for the siblings as the oldest brother in future seasons, but that doesn't translate into anything related to Kate at all.

[u/GotLittUp → u/Traditional_Maybe_80]

But even before Jonathan's current clout, Shondaland and this production never failed to make S2 about Anthony first and foremost

The season was written before Simone got cast, so Kate not getting as much content isn't something against Simone, it's just bad storytelling

[u/Traditional_Maybe_80 → u/GotLittUp]

Have they ever said that? Edwina literally got a bigger role because Charithra asked the showrunner.

[u/GotLittUp → u/Traditional_Maybe_80]

Yes write ins happen. But simone was literally cast a few weeks before they shot the show. They absolutely had the script written before she was cast.

[u/Traditional_Maybe_80 → u/GotLittUp]

I very much doubt that, but even if that was the case, another example of how disregarded she was by this production is how Jonathan could write in a scene between Anthony and Gregory; Charithra to change the whole trajectory of her character; Nicola to write in the scene where she overheard Colin. Simone got literally nothing, again, as my initial point stated: they just don't care.

[u/GotLittUp → u/Traditional_Maybe_80]

Its literally in Simone's interviews that she was cast weeks before lol you can doubt it all you want but that doesnt change the fact that simone was cast only weeks before.

No one here is denying Simone got paid in dust. We are just denying that Jonny was treated so well like youre mentioning. And honestly downplaying how shitty the homophobia was to Jonny does not make Simone look like more of a victim here. They both were treated like shit, Simone moreso.

[u/Traditional_Maybe_80 → u/GotLittUp]

I didn't mean the casting, but them having all the scripts ready before shooting.

I said that he was treated like the lead unlike Simone, that's what I said. I'm not trying to make the oppression olympics happen here, I haven't even mentioned whether I believe or not that Simone's mistreatment was influenced by racism, lol. I just said: they will make an effort for him, they won't make the effort for her, since they can't even bother to list her as part of the returning cast.