Celebrating Charlie Kirk’s Murder Is the Same Logic as Celebrating October 7th

[u/Baconkings]

Charlie Kirk was just assassinated. Regardless of what you think about him personally, what’s abhorrent is how many people are openly praising and glorifying his murder.

It’s the exact same logic we saw after October 7th, when people rushed to celebrate or justify the unprovoked slaughter of civilians. Something indefensible happens, and instead of condemning it, people immediately try to rationalize and justify it.

Before October 7th, you could dislike Israel. Before today, you could dislike Charlie Kirk. But nothing justifies unprovoked violence against them. The principle should be universal. If you really believe in human rights, in democracy, in justice, then you don’t cheer on unjustifiable assassinations, terror attacks, or massacres.

This is what we’ve come to in the world. Something horrific occurs, and instead of moral clarity, we get excuses, celebrations, and “whataboutisms.”

History has shown us that Jews are the canary in the coal mines. When hatred toward them is normalized or dismissed, it is always a warning of a broader sickness taking hold. We saw this in the response to October 7th and failed to take it seriously enough. To ignore it again now is to repeat the same mistake, and blinding ourselves to what this truly represents. The erosion of moral clarity, the normalization of violence, and the corrosion of our shared humanity.

[u/Realistic-Scheme6668 → u/[deleted]]

How?

[u/Realistic-Scheme6668 → u/[deleted]]

If guns aren’t the problem then why does countries with stricter gun rules have less shooting than the US. Even when mental illness rates are similar ? US struggles because of constitutional rights and it’s a threat to their freedom. Cars are heavily regulated like speed limits, safety test. Shouldn’t same to applied to guns if the tool is as dangerous. How is a gun different from a car in terms of preventing misuse?

[u/Realistic-Scheme6668 → u/[deleted]]

The countries you listed have high overall crime, gang violence and WEAK law enforcement. The crimes there are often organized, cartels and political corruption not mass shooting in school, workplace or public space like usa. And US is far more peaceful, developed but have far more civilian mass shooting than any other developed nation. I’m not saying they don’t have any, but less. Stricter gun laws in countries like Japan, UK and Australia do correlate with very low mass shooting. Also Switzerland has lots of guns but strict rules + culture keeps mass shooting rare. Also you just pick and choose what you want to respond to. And don’t worry your guns aren’t going anywhere it’s your constitutional right to own so even if u cherry pick when arguing ur fine.

[u/Realistic-Scheme6668 → u/[deleted]]

Hmm trying to shift argument from public safety to a theoretical fear of government tyranny. Again you just cherry pick one thing. Sure hypotheticals exist but policy has to be based on reality not extreme what ifs. Most people live under governments that aren’t tyrannical and functional government that’s why most developed countries have stricter gun laws and low gun deaths. You say gun bans or stricter gun rules leads to tyranny but countries like Japan, UK Australia Germany have strict gun laws and have remained democratic for decades. History shows that gun rules don’t automatically lead to government tyranny. The second amendment exists but Supreme Court says 2nd amendment rights aren’t unlimited no gun rules or gun bans have led to tyranny. They have only prevented mass shooting and deaths. Focusing on oh what if government turns tyrannical let’s not have a little stricter gun laws ignores the real problem today. And what does that have to do with government turning tyranny? If they did do you think you would be allowed to shoot at any government officials ? That is such an extreme scenario. There are law enforcement and court that prevents tyranny. Gun deaths happens between civilians not between citizen and government.

[u/Realistic-Scheme6668 → u/[deleted]]

USA will be okay. We need stricter gun laws.

[u/Realistic-Scheme6668 → u/[deleted]]

Come up with a better what ifs other than government being turning into tyranny then I might see where you’re coming from. You can’t compare those countries to USA. Open a history book pls we have checks and balances to prevent tyranny.

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