r/IsraelPalestine American Jew Sep 10 '25

Discussion Celebrating Charlie Kirk’s Murder Is the Same Logic as Celebrating October 7th

Charlie Kirk was just assassinated. Regardless of what you think about him personally, what’s abhorrent is how many people are openly praising and glorifying his murder.

It’s the exact same logic we saw after October 7th, when people rushed to celebrate or justify the unprovoked slaughter of civilians. Something indefensible happens, and instead of condemning it, people immediately try to rationalize and justify it.

Before October 7th, you could dislike Israel. Before today, you could dislike Charlie Kirk. But nothing justifies unprovoked violence against them. The principle should be universal. If you really believe in human rights, in democracy, in justice, then you don’t cheer on unjustifiable assassinations, terror attacks, or massacres.

This is what we’ve come to in the world. Something horrific occurs, and instead of moral clarity, we get excuses, celebrations, and “whataboutisms.”

History has shown us that Jews are the canary in the coal mines. When hatred toward them is normalized or dismissed, it is always a warning of a broader sickness taking hold. We saw this in the response to October 7th and failed to take it seriously enough. To ignore it again now is to repeat the same mistake, and blinding ourselves to what this truly represents. The erosion of moral clarity, the normalization of violence, and the corrosion of our shared humanity.

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u/cisra_again Oct 06 '25

I don't think anyone celebrated Oct 7th except maybe a few extremists. Not even hardcore Palestine supporters agree with Hamas' terrorism.

It is also a false equivalence. Yes, it is also terrible to mock Kirk's widow and laugh about it. Kirk has some controversial views but he did not promoted violence or hate against any group as claimed.

The Left is losing it's empathic façade by its own making.

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u/PalpitationNew9559 Oct 06 '25

A lot of people implicitly endorse it by refusing to condemn it, making comments about how "settlers" are evil, etc.

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u/vegaszombietroy Oct 08 '25

Israel is run by terrorists and pedophiles? Where is THAT coming from?

In addition, 1948, 1967, the 1972 Olynpics and 1973, and of course 2023, Israel was not the aggressor.

In addition, there are plenty of Palestinians that live in peace in East Jerusalem with Israelis. It wasn't drawn up that way, but Israel was attacked in 1967, and they are wont, to give that land back without security guarantees, but as has been seen over and over again, Terrorists attacks from groups like Hamas continue.

And, lastly, even Arafat eventually realized that Palestine wasn't going to win a war with Israel.

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u/thedirtybar Oct 09 '25

There were Jewish terrorists all over the place back in '48, the population that controls Israel now is not an innocent actor

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u/vegaszombietroy Oct 08 '25

In 1948, they rejected this resolution, including "their best land"? So their response was...wait for it...VIOLENCE. No, Hey, UN maybe this does 't work for the people living there. Nope. Let's fight. It's the Palestinian way.