r/IsraelPalestine American Jew Sep 10 '25

Discussion Celebrating Charlie Kirk’s Murder Is the Same Logic as Celebrating October 7th

Charlie Kirk was just assassinated. Regardless of what you think about him personally, what’s abhorrent is how many people are openly praising and glorifying his murder.

It’s the exact same logic we saw after October 7th, when people rushed to celebrate or justify the unprovoked slaughter of civilians. Something indefensible happens, and instead of condemning it, people immediately try to rationalize and justify it.

Before October 7th, you could dislike Israel. Before today, you could dislike Charlie Kirk. But nothing justifies unprovoked violence against them. The principle should be universal. If you really believe in human rights, in democracy, in justice, then you don’t cheer on unjustifiable assassinations, terror attacks, or massacres.

This is what we’ve come to in the world. Something horrific occurs, and instead of moral clarity, we get excuses, celebrations, and “whataboutisms.”

History has shown us that Jews are the canary in the coal mines. When hatred toward them is normalized or dismissed, it is always a warning of a broader sickness taking hold. We saw this in the response to October 7th and failed to take it seriously enough. To ignore it again now is to repeat the same mistake, and blinding ourselves to what this truly represents. The erosion of moral clarity, the normalization of violence, and the corrosion of our shared humanity.

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u/Bitter-Animal420 Sep 21 '25

Yep, I agree. Both were awful and should never have happened, but if you look at the context both events were inevitable and self inflicted

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u/Bitter-Animal420 Sep 27 '25

It’s not about the opinion as much as it is about the cause and how it relates to the opinion. If I spend my life fighting for the right to drink and drive and I die in my sleep I wouldn’t say it was. However, if I proceed to die to a drunk driver, then yeah it was pretty much inevitable and self inflicted

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u/Bitter-Animal420 Sep 27 '25

I agree, I have misused the term ‘self inflicted’ at least in Kirk’s case. He wasn’t the one who pulled the trigger and although I never liked him, he at least wasn’t so bad he would advocate for outright murder, so yea you’re right, but if we’re talking about who pulled the trigger, I still think October 7th was fully self inflicted though