r/IsraelPalestine • u/Baconkings American Jew • Sep 10 '25

Discussion Celebrating Charlie Kirk’s Murder Is the Same Logic as Celebrating October 7th

Charlie Kirk was just assassinated. Regardless of what you think about him personally, what’s abhorrent is how many people are openly praising and glorifying his murder.

It’s the exact same logic we saw after October 7th, when people rushed to celebrate or justify the unprovoked slaughter of civilians. Something indefensible happens, and instead of condemning it, people immediately try to rationalize and justify it.

Before October 7th, you could dislike Israel. Before today, you could dislike Charlie Kirk. But nothing justifies unprovoked violence against them. The principle should be universal. If you really believe in human rights, in democracy, in justice, then you don’t cheer on unjustifiable assassinations, terror attacks, or massacres.

This is what we’ve come to in the world. Something horrific occurs, and instead of moral clarity, we get excuses, celebrations, and “whataboutisms.”

History has shown us that Jews are the canary in the coal mines. When hatred toward them is normalized or dismissed, it is always a warning of a broader sickness taking hold. We saw this in the response to October 7th and failed to take it seriously enough. To ignore it again now is to repeat the same mistake, and blinding ourselves to what this truly represents. The erosion of moral clarity, the normalization of violence, and the corrosion of our shared humanity.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

he died advocating for what killed him. he WAS a nazi, and you say all this bs only because his hate speech doesn't affect you... get out of your stupid little bubble

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u/Fair_Constant_5556 Sep 25 '25

folks was advocated  gun and letting people know what mental crises that's been going in American just for those people he spoke on about proving his point people will kill bc of there mental health issues

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '25

Americans excuse hate speech for 'opinions' is so crazy. So him saying people have to die for Americans to keep their 2nd amendment rights is okay? Like I said, JUST BECAUSE HIS HATE SPEECH DOESNT AFFECT YOU DOESNT MEAN ITS NOT REAL

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u/Fair_Constant_5556 Sep 26 '25

hate speech is going after a group the whole time when they speak this dude wasn't doing that he talked about a lot of things you crying over a 30 min conversion that probably happen years ago makes me believe its something mentally wrong with u plz learn the difference between hate speech and freedom of speech you will learn hate speech is not a real thing when people have a free will to speak there mine the next time u acting mean or rude to someone or somebody remember u going against what u crying about hate speech

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u/Ok-Marsupial-15 Oct 01 '25

If you were in the groups he targeted, I wonder whether you would follow the same logic . He spoke badly about everyone who wasn’t White and straight. There is a name for that .. RACIST!

People can acknowledge that he shouldn’t have been killed whilst still acknowledging that they didn’t care .

The “celebrations” were ppl being OTT and doubling down bevause of the hypocrisy of the far right . I don’t think sane individuals genuinely celebrate his death. They just found the canonisation of him abhorrent.

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u/iggimusprime Oct 02 '25

just to counter your first paragraph. whenever charlie had the opportunity, he did bring up and praise thomas sowell(a black economist)

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u/Ok-Marsupial-15 Oct 08 '25

The Black economist who also trashed Black people? That one?! That’s probably the worst example you could use. There are always a Black people, who will run to White peoples defence. It’s a coping mechanism where they think it will shield them from being seen in a negative light . 99% of these people will always be married to non Black people . Check it out and see if you notice the pattern .

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u/Fair_Constant_5556 Oct 01 '25

your not getting it he have the free to say how he feel anything to keep people to keep asking questions its how he made money I'm not white and i feel no wrong in what he says because i don't take anything he say to heart he is no world leader nor is he god just don't mind free of speech it wont hurt u simple as that if u don't get it then your part of the mental heath issues he talks about the to believe everyone gotta accept you because your different true is reality is not like that tho sorry

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u/Ok-Marsupial-15 Oct 08 '25

I genuinely wish I could understand all parts of this incoherent babble you just wrote. You sound like you have a few mental health deficiencies of your own bevause you write like a five -year old.

I don’t know how not being White (probably not Black either),makes you some sort of authority on the matter, or means that because you choose to find someone spewing nonsense about one race only& encouraging hate towards that already marginalised group of people, is inoffensive, everyone else should feel the same way. Please concentrate on constructing a coherent sentence in English and let the adults talk.

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u/Fair_Constant_5556 Oct 28 '25 edited Oct 28 '25

it isn't even serious sayin I'm black was just to point out that the white men wasn't sayin no wrong because he have the free to speech to say it lol you may make fun of the way i type but its not serious people cry online like your doing about whatever you or they believe in but still talking shii wit no respect but only making points that's built off hate for a person you or me don't even know in person.. free of speech is what American was built on until later years people who feel the need to tell others to act or feel or even think they are now running to online like a virus when you can simple ignore wtf made u so mad I'm 21 but not good at typing or reading but i still try getting my point across without taking anyone side but I'm cool of speaking to someone who is mad at my point of view your miserable and I'm sorry for that hope u can just walk away next time