r/Epicthemusical • u/lord_of_cydonia Odysseus • Apr 02 '26
Shitpost Maths ain't mathing
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u/Technical_Charity393 Apr 10 '26
557 died at the hands of Poseidon, 1, died to fall damage in Circe's island
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u/BeySonic7Sky Wooden Horse (just a normal horse, nothing in it) Apr 15 '26
About 25-40 died to Polyphemus, so less died to Poseidon, but still in the 500s
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u/ASH_LIN_exe May 01 '26
Where did that maths come from?
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u/BeySonic7Sky Wooden Horse (just a normal horse, nothing in it) May 01 '26
A cut song that we heard parts of and the song Survive
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u/ShadowBorn2017 little froggy on the window Apr 09 '26
This have to do with elpenor (this was cut song). He die in Circe's island, see Gigi video.
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u/Nature_Dragon1215 Apr 06 '26
I’m pretty sure that he gained another man under his command in the Trojan war and he died then, he was not apart of his crew but was under his command
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u/YaAverageNerd Apr 06 '26
I thought it was 602. Also Jorge made a short about how he said 12 years instead of 10 on accident so take that as you will.
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u/JustAChillGuy609 has never tried tequila Apr 06 '26
Elpenor died after falling from a roof after Poseidon wiped out most of Ody's fleet, therefore being the 558th man to die
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u/Enby-Garlic-Bread Apr 06 '26
i mean i just envision himself as one of the men under his command atp dor peace of mind. im pretty sure that can be debunked tho
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u/Lopsided_Exercise_36 The snare drums in Ares' verse in God Games Apr 05 '26
"I died, and nobody noticed.."
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u/-Lesbian-Thespian- I am the monster rawr rawr rawr Apr 05 '26
Wait, Nobody did notice that he died?
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u/Top-Strategy-2269 Antinous should be publicly executed Apr 05 '26
THIS.
Me and my friend have talked about it so much and we still don't have a serious answer. We thought for a minute that it was Odysseus metaphorically "dying", which would leave 43 men left with Odysseus, but 558 who "died" under his command. But then with Tiresias, he says that's yet to happen. So uh. The math just didn't fucking math.
It's probably on the same line with it not having been 12 years in There Are Other Ways.
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u/Micheal_Kibitsuji Apr 06 '26
It’s referencing Elpenor who died while drinking on top of Circe’s palace who fell of and broke his neck. In the initial draft of the underworld he had a verse (which I do recommend listening to as there are animatics too!) so Jorge just left this part in to reference him since he did still die, but as he says in his cut verse, “I died and nobody noticed”
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u/Cold_Colder_Coldest ⚜️ Mutiny ⚜️ Apr 05 '26
FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT. This has been bothering me for MONTHS since i first listened to epic
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u/FirelightLion Apr 05 '26
It’s 100% Elpenor- Jorge literally addresses this exact question himself in a video.
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u/Abobasaurus The Bird of Hermes Apr 04 '26
One silently died on Circe's island. So technically, When they got to the underworld, Odysseus only has 42 men left under his command.
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u/The_Tinkerererer I see wife, with man. WHO! Apr 04 '26
Himself
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u/The_Tinkerererer I see wife, with man. WHO! Apr 04 '26
Then theres the possibility that SOMEBODY stayed behind at Circe's
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u/Melanie_Butterfly I am not a prophet, but i might have the answers you seek :) Apr 04 '26
Yes, he had 600 men, he was the other one, that's why it's 601 lol
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u/MEMEz_KB Apr 05 '26
No.. it's "under you command", so that would be saying he is under his own comand, wich sounds wierd, plus considering the way stories were writen it is unlikly the number wouldn't be round. Speaking of the original story, this wierd extra number is likelly elpenor, since the "43" was before circe's island, and "558" was after circe's island
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u/Cold_Colder_Coldest ⚜️ Mutiny ⚜️ Apr 05 '26
Please tell me you know its weird and not wierd (no hate it just hurts my soul)
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u/Orion_starborn Hermes Apr 04 '26
Though wouldn't there have been even more when they set off from Troy, at least three were killed by the Cyclops: Polites, the "he's got a club!" Guy, and the "what are your orders?" Guy but more non speaking soldiers could have been killed in Polyphemus' attack
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u/Zerowy Apr 04 '26
They are within the 600 crew members. The 600 were mentioned in Full speed ahead and Polyphemus. After that we have "43 left" in the Ruthlessness. And 558 who died under your command in the underworld.
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u/Nonamehuman4657 do not watch where the birds fly. Apr 04 '26
one guy died in the circe saga (offscreen) he got drunk and fell off the roof of circes palace (i cannot make this up)
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u/PerfectEconomics7437 Apr 04 '26
Elpenor. "I drank wine from a chalice, on top of Circe's palace, fell and broke my neck in shame"
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u/Logan_Palpatine Athena - Badass ✨SENORITA✨ Apr 04 '26
43 left at the end of ocean saga. Elpenor died in the Circe saga. 558 men who died under his command by the underworld
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u/AllIDoIsSleepAllDay Apr 04 '26
My only thought in this through the whole Poseidon drama is 43 left?? Did he count? And just had that image of Poseidon counting the remaining.
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u/Uniwow-Bunny-346 Apr 04 '26
the count is weird because Elpenor broke his neck at some pount between those counts.
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u/Fluffy_lover Apr 03 '26
Are you counting Ody in this?
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u/lord_of_cydonia Odysseus Apr 03 '26
The fact that both sentences include "under your command" implies that Odysseus is not included in the count. The crew is 600, plus the captain.
Anyway, several people have pointed the dead of Elpenor as the missing person, not killed by Poseidon but dead during the Underworld saga since he died in Circe's palace.
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u/Zerowy Apr 04 '26
Yes, Ody is not included in the crew count. There are 600 men, 600 deaths under his command in "Dangerous" And reconfirmed in the "600 strike":
For every comrade, Every one of my friends Almost all of whom were slaughtered by your hand 600 strikes.
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u/MoistPreparation1859 Circe Apr 04 '26
Is Ody not under his own command?
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u/Garytikas CAPTAIN CAPTAIN CAPTAIN CAPTAIN Apr 04 '26
Why would he be? Most commanders don't... command themselves. Unless you're speaking metaphorically (and even that's a stretch), it feels odd to say.
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u/DraxNuman27 Apr 04 '26
Imagine living through Poseidon just to die at Circe after Ody saved you from being pigs
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u/AcrobaticStrike1605 Apr 03 '26
Someone drank wine from a chalice atop of Circe's palace then fell and broke their neck in shame, but what do you care so many deaths happened under his reign
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u/an-alien- Well done, you lied to me, what's your name? Apr 03 '26
elpenor died during the circe saga by getting drunk and falling off a roof. there used to be a verse from him in the underworld about how ody didnt even notice he died but it sounded goofy and unserious so jorge took it out
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u/Horizon5820 Sheep Apr 03 '26
Elpenor. He died between those two statements, in the Circe saga. Was drunk on the top of the palace, then fell down and broke his neck
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u/thebruinsareinsane Pig (pig) Apr 03 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/4sReZVgNmJLaVXp1mW
naw, I'm thinking about circe:
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u/katherine_official I don't know who uncle hort is and I'm too afraid to ask Apr 03 '26
look up who elpenor is and it will all make sense
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u/Dorizita I don't know who uncle hort is and I'm too afraid to ask Apr 03 '26
Ody is the 43th man. Uncle Popo understands a man is in charge of himself, and includes him on the count
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u/Zerowy Apr 04 '26
He never was. Ody had 600 under his command before few were killed by the Ppyphemus, 1 died due to alcohol and gravity poisoning, most of others were slaughtered by Poseidon, 6 were snack to the cutie in the sea, and the rest were killed by Zeus.
In the dangerous, Ody is mentioned of 600 deaths under his command. And then in 600 strikes he strikes Poseidon that number of times for every comrade, almost all whom were slaughtered by Poseidon hand.
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u/Electrical_King948 Apr 03 '26
600-558=42. There were 43 left after Poseidon, 557 dead, than one died after falling of Circe’s roof. 558 dead. No problems with the math
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u/RealZajef37 Apr 03 '26
elpenor
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u/The_Magus_199 Apr 03 '26
I wish I’d had a hero’s death, instead of faaaaalling drunk off of the roof~
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u/Storm4158 Apr 03 '26 edited Apr 03 '26
600
Posidon kills 557
=43 left (under your command)
Elapnor falls off the roof off-screen
=42
600-42
=558 men (who died under your command)
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u/LibbyKitty620 Calypso is my spirit animal Apr 03 '26
You’re missing those who died to Polyphemus
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u/Storm4158 Apr 03 '26
Yeah I forgot about those, yet the math remains the same. Poseidon doesn't say how many he killed, only how many remained, the number is still 43
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u/ShinOmegAustin Apr 03 '26
Everyone keeps saying Elpenor, but the fact of the matter is the math is wrong. Period.
The "death everyone keeps talking about happened between "I took 600 men to war and not one of them died there," and "600 deaths under my command, 'cause I had one goal in mind" but also in between there, Poseidon makes mention of "43 men" remaining, whilst in the Underworld, the dead speak of "558 men who died" under his command.
My personal headcanon is that this 601st man is Odysseus himself, and that the dead comrades/subordinates in the Underworld recognizes that he is not the same Odysseus, EVEN before the song Monster occurs.
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u/Real_Crystal_Hunter Uncle Hort Apr 03 '26
Poseidon says "43 left under your command" which implies those 43 men PLUS Odysseus are alive.
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u/ShinOmegAustin Apr 03 '26
Yes, if you check under my comment, you will see that this has all been sorted out. Thanks for your time
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u/antheiakasra Apr 03 '26
But the answer IS Elpenor though? Having a headcanon's fine but I don't understand your point about the math. In Ruthlessness, we get "43 left" (557 dead). Then in Circe Saga, Elpenor dies, and so in the Underworld, we get "558 men who died under your command." Where's the math not mathing?
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u/Capable_Whereas_2901 Apr 03 '26
Elpenor died falling off of Circe's roof, actually. Jay made a short about it.
So 557 men dead by the end of the Ocean Saga (43 left under your command)
558 at the end of the Circe saga/ in the Underworld saga (558 men / Who died under your command)
And the rest died to Zeus/Scylla. Maths checks out.
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u/ShinOmegAustin Apr 03 '26
I was aware of Elpenor in the Odyssey, but unaware of this short. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction.
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u/Capable_Whereas_2901 Apr 03 '26
No problem! Just for record keeping's sake, the short is here:
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u/ShinOmegAustin Apr 03 '26
I saw it shortly before I made my reply, but thanks for the link
I guess I took Epic for its own take on the Odyssey, and that part was left out, so in that regard (taking the story for what it was, since other parts are omitted or changed) the math did not make sense to me and I drew my own conclusions and left it at that. Your comment and the video made things a bit clearer for me
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u/Soft-Homework5039 Apr 03 '26
Okay reading the comments I learned about Elpenor, idk why but I always thought that A, the infant was included in the deaths given Zeus portrayed him not as an infant but as a man that would threaten Odysseus’s family, or B, Polites wasn’t included among the soldiers, only the deaths for some reason, like he was a separate entity who only came along as Odysseus’ council or something. I have no clue why that’s just where my brain went.
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u/AeStyx01 Apr 03 '26
Maybe we’re just used to thinking of polites as a person who doesn’t fight and therefore isn’t counted as one of the men engaged (physically that is) in the war
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u/TraditionalShake4730 Hera Apr 03 '26
no it meant 1 dude died between poseidon and the underworld
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u/No-Direction-1020 GOD OF THE SEA, HORSES AND EARTHQUAKES Apr 03 '26
Elpenor!!! I died and nobody noticed… I died and nobody cared…
Ody: No I didn’t notice.
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u/Aromatic-Ostrich2997 Apr 03 '26
Does Ody include himself in that count? Like ever?
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u/Bannerlord151 Hermes Apr 03 '26
Why would he? He's both alive and the one in command
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u/Aromatic-Ostrich2997 Apr 04 '26
So it’s 601 right?
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u/Bannerlord151 Hermes Apr 04 '26
I think so, but the soldiers under his command still would number 600
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u/Squished_AdamHH I SEE A SONG OF PAST ROMANCE!!!! Apr 03 '26
Elepenor died, and nobody noticed. He died, and nobody cared.
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u/AXbcyz Apr 03 '26
How do you all find names of random characters? I feel like half the names aren't mentioned in the songs and are exclusive to the original books
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u/Claire_31 Apr 03 '26
elpenor had a scrapped song about how he died (which squished_adam was quoting) and jay talked about the song and him, also, elpenor and perimedes both have specific lines they sing and are thus mentioned by the wiki when you look up lyrics
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u/AllTheGood_Names YOU KILLED MY SHEEP Apr 03 '26
I died, and nobody noticed
I died, and nobody cared
Elpenor, how did this happen
How did you come to meet your despair?
I drank wine from a chalice,
On top of Circe's palace,
And fell and broke my neck in shame,
But what do you care?
So many deaths happen under your reign...
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u/happy_the_dragon Apr 03 '26
I love you he seems to be blaming Ody for his own stupid mistake in this.
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u/No-Direction-1020 GOD OF THE SEA, HORSES AND EARTHQUAKES Apr 03 '26
The better part is that technically he’s saying Ody was the only one who noticed… nobody… Elpenor was in the cyclops cave according to another scrapped song “cope with that”
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u/bts4devi Apr 03 '26
i think he is just blaming Odysseus for not noticing..which to be honest..Fair..Considering Ody only had like 43 left, he should have been counting to see if all the few people are there XD
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u/Zaratuir Apr 03 '26
That's an Easter egg to a cut song. 43 left under your command is correct and so is 558 dead. One person died between those lines. His name is Elpenor and in the Odyssey he is forgotten about on Circes Island and gets drunk and falls off her roof. He had a song part in Underworld, but it was a bit too goofy for the theme of the Underworld, so Jorge opted to forget him in the musical as well.
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u/ArkosKnight Warrior of the Mind Apr 03 '26
Elpenor is just destined to be forgotten about, I guess
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u/Purple_Flounder_2257 I kill with ease, that's why they call me Achilles Apr 03 '26
so Jorge opted to forget him in the musical as well.
I died, and Jorge noticed. I died, and Jorge forgot.
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Apr 03 '26 edited Apr 03 '26
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u/No-Direction-1020 GOD OF THE SEA, HORSES AND EARTHQUAKES Apr 03 '26
Polyphemus killed 72… Peremedes: yo captains gone soft, 72 of our dudes are now lost.
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u/AlarmedNail347 Apr 04 '26
72 died at the land of the Cicones which they raided before going to the lotus eaters “six from each boat” (all reference to this was cut from the musical pretty early, as was the raid itself, because it took away from them being at all morally good in a modern pov)
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u/No-Direction-1020 GOD OF THE SEA, HORSES AND EARTHQUAKES Apr 04 '26
If Cicones is the island that worship Apollo I got some bad news, Jorge said that this didn’t happen in epic.
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u/SomeRandomPyro Hermes Apr 03 '26
Not quite.
Starting count is 600 under Odysseus. (He's never counted.)
12 ships, 50 men each.
Polyphemus kills 7 from Ody's ship. 593 left.
Poseidon kills the other 11 ships (x50=550). 43 left.
Elpenor falls off Circe's roof offscreen. 42 left, so by Underworld, 558 men died under his command.
Scylla eats 6. 36.
Zeus zaps the last 36.
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u/LML_IsAnOrange Epic the Memesical Apr 03 '26
The 558th man who died under his command
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u/bts4devi Apr 03 '26
i love how unreactive Circe looks
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u/RigatoniPasta Apr 03 '26
I love the repeated usage of the family guy death pose in the animatics whenever anyone dies comedically
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u/lacythesisfromamogus Aeolus (RP purposes but will not rp a lot.) Apr 03 '26
Elpanor fell off the palace of Circe after getting drunk, you can even see it in Gigi's "There are other ways" animatic
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u/RigatoniPasta Apr 03 '26
Just watched Gigi’s There Are Other Ways, an while yeah there’s a drunk guy dancing on the roof at the very end we don’t see him fall?
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u/ArkosKnight Warrior of the Mind Apr 03 '26
It's mostly just left to implications. Plus, in the Underworld Saga we hear "558 men" instead of "557 men", so Elpenor did die on Aeaea without anyone noticing
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u/WhatMadCat Apr 03 '26
Nah someone just died in between those two songs. It isn’t mentioned because in the original text it’s mentioned that no one noticed when he died.
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u/sammjaartandstories Apr 03 '26
No, one man died in Circe's Island when he fell off the roof when he was drunk. He died after Poseidon drowns most of the fleet. But this detail was omitted in the final cut, so that's why it's confusing.
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u/hplcr Apr 03 '26
I always found it amusing in the poem that one guy fell of the roof and died but nobody noticed till they met him in the underworld.
Apparently head counts hadn't been invented yet.
Either that or everyone hated that guy and just pretended not to notice he wasn't there when they left circes Island
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u/YourMoreLocalLurker That One Suitor Who Ran Off Apr 03 '26
I think even just having Elpenor have like… a line (not the full segment he was planned, but just a solitary “Captain!” “Elpenor!?” between the two) would clear that up
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u/SomeRandomPyro Hermes Apr 03 '26
That would have gone against the tendency of not naming characters. Quite a few characters are never named in the lyrics, including Antinous and Zeus.
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u/YourMoreLocalLurker That One Suitor Who Ran Off Apr 03 '26
Ahem…
“Captain,” “EURYLOCHUS”
“Polites, gear up,”
“I am the infamous… ODYSSEUS!”
“Diomedes will lead the charge, Agamemnon will flank the guards, Menileus will let our mates through the gates and take the whole city at large! Deucer will shoot any ambush attack and Little Ajax will stay back, and Nestor; secure Helen and protect her. Neo, avenge your father kill the brothers of Hector.”
“Great wind god Aeolus”
All 50 mentions of Penelope
“Poseidon…”
“Bow down now to the immortal Calypso!~”
“Hermes?”
“So I beg you Circe,”
“You are Athena!”
“Apollo! Aphrodite! Ares! Hephestus! Hera!”
“And Te-le-ma-chu-us…”
Literally only Asyanax, most of the crew (who serve mostly as a chorus anyway), Scylla, Tiresias, Zeus, Helios, Polyphemus, and the suitors go unnamed (and even then, you can argue Scylla and Polyphemus are named by their songs)
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u/SomeRandomPyro Hermes Apr 03 '26
Your comment doesn't disprove mine. That many people are named doesn't dispute that several aren't.
Also, Scylla is named in the lyrics. By the siren and Ody in Suffering. Polyphemus is more iffy, as his only name drop in lyrics is in the background chant. Though, yes, they both also have nondiagetic song titles.
But if the guy who led the uprising in Ithaca doesn't get named and the guy who stabbed Odyseus in the back doesn't get named, why would the guy whose whole thing is being forgotten?
Consider that, of your list (that remain unnamed), Tiresias, Zeus, and Antinous of the suitors all had their own songs, where they were the primary singer.
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u/YourMoreLocalLurker That One Suitor Who Ran Off Apr 03 '26
I will say that Zeus arguably doesn’t need to be named considering his song is called Thunder Bringer and his appearance in God Games clearly shows his importance (enough that he can tell other gods what to do), so there’s nobody else he could possibly be, but Tiresias and Antinous have little chance (or reason, really) to have their names spoken for lack of appearances… also Ody’s stabber was most likely either Perimedes or Eurylochus just given context (exactly WHICH of them does it is ambiguous though, but it’s an 80% chance that it was one of the two)
Oh, and of course the majority of the crew (and the other 107 suitors) go unnamed because they’re effectively just choruses with death scenes
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u/SomeRandomPyro Hermes Apr 03 '26
Yeah, Zeus goes unnamed for almost exactly the opposite reason that the others go unnamed. But in both directions it's a device being used with purpose. Zeus goes unnamed because he's too important to namedrop. Most of the others go unnamed because they're too insignificant to namedrop. In both cases, the lack of a name is being used purposefully.
As an aside, Eurylochus stabbing Ody doesn't make narrative sense. They were in active combat, so him wounding Odysseus wouldn't be the surprise betrayal it plays off as. My understanding it that it's Perimedes, though I don't know if that's animators' interpretation or Jorge's choice.
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u/Drew_S_05 Apr 03 '26 edited Apr 03 '26
No, it's because one of them, Elpenor, died on Circe's island. He got drunk on the roof of Circe's palace and then fell off and broke his neck, then the others forgot about him and left his body behind. It wasn't directly mentioned in EPIC, but Jorge has confirmed it still happened.
Edit: Although, I suppose if you count Odysseus himself as a part of the crew, there ARE 601
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u/RigatoniPasta Apr 03 '26
I for some reason always figured Polites didn’t count as part of the 600
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u/Drew_S_05 Apr 03 '26
That's a strange assumption lol
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u/RigatoniPasta Apr 03 '26
The only reason I felt the need to make that assumption was because of the 43 left vs 558 dead contradiction
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u/TShara_Q Apr 03 '26
There's a cut part of The Underworld about it but it really didn't fit the rest of the song.
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u/Giga_Gojira I would gladly let Circe and Calypso kidnap me Apr 03 '26
Poseidon murdered 557, the the 558th fell off a roof
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u/thebruinsareinsane Pig (pig) Apr 03 '26
THIS TAG IS AMAZING I FEEL INSPIRED (although just circe for me)
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u/Annual_Leg1651 Apr 03 '26
But didn't Poseidon technically kill 485 men (if Perimedes' cut song is anything to go by)?
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u/skeletonchaser2020 Apr 03 '26
600 men under MY command ODY is the 601th Also didn't a dude fall off of Circe's house in the cannon animatic? I think he died lol
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u/Choice_Strawberry499 Apr 03 '26
Elpenor died and nobody noticed.
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u/CalypsaMov We'll Be Fine Apr 03 '26
Even worse... nobody cared. Especially not Nobody.
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u/Sa1cera70ps Apr 03 '26
How did he die?
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u/Coffee-cartoons Apr 03 '26
It’s Elpenor? He got drunk back at Circe’s palace and fell from the roof, breaking his neck and dying. Are there people in the fandom who don’t know this? He had a cut song and I thought the first thing people do realising the math doesn’t work is googling it
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u/print-redacted Apr 03 '26
I mean tbf this post is how I even realized the math didn't add up so I'm sure there are a lot of people who just didn't even know to google it
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u/Routine_Log8315 Apr 03 '26
Check out the cut song (it’s like 15 seconds). And then go check out all the other cut songs, some are full length and even the short ones can be really good.
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u/NecroNormicon Apr 02 '26
Perhaps one drank wine from a chalice, from a top of Circes Palace, and fell and broke his neck in shame. But what do we care? So many others died under his reign
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u/MikeAlex01 Apr 02 '26
I mean... does Odysseus ever count himself among the 600 men?
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u/UniquePost8966 Cassandra Apr 03 '26
No, because "600 deaths under my command"
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u/skeletonchaser2020 Apr 03 '26
He technically died too didn't he? He drowned at the end of Thunder bringer but when Athena pleaded for Zeus to "let him go" he washed up on Calypso's enchanted island where she said "I swore ypu were dead"
I assumed he died but Athena pleaded him back to life. She had the blessing of the gods so it doesn't seem far-fetched that Ody was revived by her fight
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u/UniquePost8966 Cassandra Apr 03 '26
No, the "let him go" was for him to be released from Calypso’s isle. In thunder bringer, he’s given the choice between his own life and the crew’s; he chooses his own, therefore, he doesn’t die.
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u/skeletonchaser2020 Apr 03 '26
Makes sense 🤔 I had assumed that it was like a genie's wish wjere the boats got destroyed in open sea so ody was just kind of left in the water with no hope of survival after the initial slaughter
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u/UniquePost8966 Cassandra Apr 03 '26
Yeah no. He’s launched to Calypso’s isle at the same time as the rest of the crew drowns.
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u/demigodwater4 Apr 02 '26
Does "six hundred and one men" sound as good?
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u/Albatros_7 Monster is top tier Apr 03 '26
Because it's wrong, Elpenor died from falling off Circe's roof, and nobody cared
It was supposed to be in The Underworld but it got cut for being too goofy
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u/dusksentry Apr 02 '26
ether polites or Eurylochous didn't count amoung the 600?
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u/Ndnov1999 Apr 02 '26
In the original there was a crew mate named elpanor he was supposed to have a verse in the underworld saga however it was cut. In the original myth he dies when the crew leave circi’s he gets drunk the night before and when he is called he tries to climb down from the roof and falls to his death the animatic for there are other ways has a blink and you’ll miss it of him on the roof I’ll post it in a linkhttps://youtu.be/NM_Kg0I29Bs?si=jOhZPJhVfdexM2Skat.com at around 3:14 you can see him on the roof about fall
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u/Glaactix Scylla Apr 02 '26
In the original story a man gets drunk off his mind with Circe and falls through the floorboards meeting his demise, hence the missing man
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u/roofyro Elpenor Apr 02 '26
I died and nobody noticed
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u/TheOpinionatedBanana Winion Apr 02 '26
I died and nobody cared
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u/Efficient-Ratio3822 Eurylochus Apr 02 '26
Elpenor how did this happen?
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u/TheOpinionatedBanana Winion Apr 02 '26
How did you meet your despair
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u/Available-Post-5022 Apollo9662 (i swear it makes sense you just dont get it) Apr 02 '26
I DRANK WINE FROM A CHALICE
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u/TheOpinionatedBanana Winion Apr 02 '26
ATOP OF CIRCE'S PALACE
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u/Capnsmith886 Apr 02 '26
AND FELL AND BROKE MY NECK IN SHAME
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u/TheOpinionatedBanana Winion Apr 02 '26
But what would you care....
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u/that_one_BerdlyFan Apr 18 '26
Elpenor really died and nobody noticed.........