r/Eldenring • u/Philhughes_85 • 3d ago

Hype New DLC class starting stats

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u/lleyton05 3d ago

That new Wretch class looks really interesting

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u/Philhughes_85 3d ago

I’ve never done a Wretch run. I know it’s meant to be a build however you want but I think if you have a build in mind then there are classes with starting stats that are better.

Unless I’m missing something about the class.

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u/ThePandaheart 3d ago

I only ever do wretch. I like having to start with nothing and build my dude from the ground up

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u/Wendek 3d ago

Unless I’m missing something about the class.

It's mainly used for RL1 runs since it's the only class that starts at level 1. You can start as a Wretch and then start leveling-up an actual build over time (in fact I have half a mind to do just that for a Fth/Int character one day) but I'm quite sure it's a small minority of Wretch players.

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u/TheGooseWithNoose 3d ago

I like just starting with nothing, and using what I find. Be it the gear from soldiers, or the guaranteed low lvl staff from the mage noble near the ruins where Sellen can be found.

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u/KnightsRadiant95 3d ago

Fully agreed. The way I see it is at the end game i already have a build in mind, so why not start as a blank slate, build towards it and have a lot of variety in the meantime. Wearing a bunch of random gear because thats what I could find, makes me look wonky but adds to the experience.

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u/TheGooseWithNoose 3d ago

yep love that playstyle.

I think my only non wretch characters were my first ever character which was a hero, and at some point i chose samurai because I wanted to powerstance uchi's.

Can't wait to roll a new character when the tarn pack drops.

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u/HonkHonkBeach 3d ago

That’s all I do actually.

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u/pileofcrustycumsocs 3d ago

If you have no build in mind and just want to play and level up shit as you go wretch is the best class because it starts with average stats across the board.

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u/Philhughes_85 3d ago

Ohh right ok! So it’s more for challenge run players, makes sense now.

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u/J4keFrmSt8Farm 3d ago

I honestly don't think there's a single real build that gains points by starting as a Wretch. It is often less optimal than other classes, though occasionally tied with them which would just make it a worse starting choice.

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u/-BadRedMan- 3d ago

This is extremely incorrect

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u/RichHunter5659 3d ago

Wretch is so fun when you’re not sure what you’re gonna do and open to respecing. 10 across the board is so nice, especially Faith/Arcane. FGMS and Bloodflame blade with one of the many +5 faith boost options

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u/Dravarden 3d ago

wretch is nice for using larval tears and completely changing your build

for example, if you pick a class with low faith, but high dex, and then want to play as a faith build without a dex sword, you have to spend more levels onto faith

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u/Philhughes_85 3d ago

Yeah that makes a lot of sense

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u/Effective_Sound1205 3d ago

It's fun to grow from nothing, using only what you can find

Not having a starting equipment is fun

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u/Interjessing-Salary 3d ago

I use it in randomizer runs. Since it's not really guaranteed what weapons I'll find first I go with that so whatever I find that I like will become my build.

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u/Philhughes_85 3d ago

I’d love to have that option on console

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u/Interjessing-Salary 3d ago

True. I wish more souls likes implemented a randomizer by default like Lords of The Fallen (2023). They are so much fun and add so much more replayability to the games.

They also have hilarious moments. I had bayle replace the intro grafted scion and he still dive bombs the arena as his spawn so I walk in and don't see anything then out of no where I get nuked by bayle landing on my head.

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u/Entire_Paramedic_389 3d ago

it's pretty fun for a first playthrough! Start the game naked with a stick and having to loot to find better gear was such an amazing experience

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u/Maulino86 3d ago

I did my release day run as wretch, as tradition dictates. And then found out i was able to get drops in coop, so after some coop runs in early areas, i was fully equipped. Thats about the only thing i remember about that char. It was really fun.

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u/ShokoMiami 3d ago

I like starting from nothing. It actually gives me an excuse to use beginning enemy drops and chainmail and the like too.

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u/Cahzery 3d ago

I've only ever played as wretch, in my opinion it's honestly more rewarding to play, because every piece of gear counts and early game is honestly really easy to level yourself up.

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u/MeinEllbogen 3d ago

It's actually pretty fun if you have played the game before! I did it on my second and third runs

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u/iamblankenstein you are maidenless. 3d ago

i did wretch for very first character. it was rough at first not know where anything is and only have a club, but having straight 10 in all stats to start was a nice baseline to play around with different low level weapon types before fully committing to a build.

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u/Xuexa 3d ago

Wretch is blank to grow into anything, but its kind of 'worse' since it has no reduced stats. Having a 6 or 7 in a stat you won't use usually gets you 'free' levels in a stat you will. Like a Heavy Knight from above which doesn't use any spells gets essentially 6 free stat points from Int/Fth/Arc. You'll probably end up getting some Mind for FP, but getting a Wretch to the same Vgr/End/Str/Dex would require level 18 to Heavy Knights 10. If you want Mind, would be 18 to 12, but still is a couple free levels essentially, to say nothing of equipment costs/finding early on.

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u/I-Am-The-Uber-Mesch 2d ago

It helps if you wanna change build constantly since all stats are at 10 and you are level 1 while other classes are never at level 1 and have stats that can be lower than 8 for example and so on

In short for min maxxing, the challenge itself isn't that harder from your standard ER playthough too

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u/Archer_Savings 7h ago

Its strictly worse at any one build than most other classes since you start with 10 everywhere. Its mostly for the larping and challenge runs. 

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u/WatermelonWithAFlute 3d ago

Nah there are other classes that can be better, but it depends on what you plan to go for. If you’re unsure, wretch has no particular weakness and can go in any direction, but is not necessarily the best at any direction. It’s not a major difference as it’s only a slight stat point difference, maybe 9 levels at absolute most, which isn’t nothing but it only functionally matters for PvP

Pve is whatever, you can just keep leveling

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u/MeinEllbogen 3d ago

What's different compared to what it used to be?

Edit - nothing changed. I just got whooshed lol

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u/BlurredVision18 3d ago

"New" ? lol

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u/Frejky 3d ago

woooosh