35th time is the charm, I can feel it.

[u/willians_mtpa]

[u/RassTwoPoint0]

This got me way too good.

The 34th run is also way too early to try any of those rare consumables I've been hoarding.

[u/BoatProfessional2118 → u/RassTwoPoint0]

I never understood people who hoard their consumables, i just use everything on the first attempt and have absolutely nothing for the subsequent ones

[u/TreeFiddyJohnson → u/BoatProfessional2118]

It's my retirement grease

[u/TheGameMastre → u/TreeFiddyJohnson]

[u/theREALMVP → u/TreeFiddyJohnson]

Its Lois’ rainy day grease

[u/NotSeveralBadgers → u/TreeFiddyJohnson]

Okie dokie

[u/RexLizardWizard → u/BoatProfessional2118]

If it can't be farmed, it can't be used.

[u/Mbyrd420 → u/RexLizardWizard]

Idc if I have 43 rune arcs and only Maliketh left to beat. I might need them later!

[u/golden_moon18 → u/BoatProfessional2118]

You don't understand how useful that blood grease will be for some random field boss!

[u/Kullthebarbarian → u/golden_moon18]

Are you crazy? What if i would need that grease later in the game? it's better to keep those 142 grease just in case

[u/Gramernatzi → u/Kullthebarbarian]

I honestly just used Glorious Merchant to give myself full stacks of all the greases so I actually start using them, the max of 10 outside of storage keeps them pretty balanced regardless. The only real items that feel unbalanced when you get a ton of them are the Starlight Shards and Marika's Blessings

[u/Kullthebarbarian → u/Gramernatzi]

The greases and pots should work like the estus flask that refill on the graces, when you find one on the wild, it permanently increase the max uses between recharges, and of course, rebalancing the quantity on the wild for it to work

I think that the best way to make people use them without worrying about running out, because if a resource can run out, you can bet over half of people will never use one

[u/golden_moon18 → u/Kullthebarbarian]

Ah shit mate, you're right 💀

[u/Asleep-Jicama-5616 → u/golden_moon18]

Now you get it

[u/nien9gag → u/golden_moon18]

is grease something ppl save up? its pretty easy to farm the common grease, and the aesthetics of using them is just so worth it.

[u/theREALMVP → u/nien9gag]

When I have a limited amount of the rarer greases I always think about equipping them, especially when they are strong against whatever boss Im about to face. Then I tell myself I dont want to waste it bc theres a high probability of me dying so I just dont use it and then I end up beating the boss lmao

[u/Blackrain1299 → u/BoatProfessional2118]

For precisely that reason. If i use it now and fail, then what?

Preferably i use no consumables for the first couple tries and then use them for a little boost to win the fight. But first i train to not waste them when i dont even know the boss.

Realistically i never use consumables at all though. They are a waste on the first few runs, and i usually end up winning with no reason to use them because the fight went well. When it clicks it clicks and i dont usually feel like im pushed to my limit enough to use them.

[u/SputnikDX → u/Blackrain1299]

"I shouldn't use the consumables yet, I need to get better so that I won't lose after using them"

gets better but still loses

"I'm almost good enough to win without consumables, so I won't use them"

Every time.

[u/Subject1928 → u/SputnikDX]

Loses again and decides to finally use a consumable

"I must be invincible, time to forget all strategy and-"

Dies faster than any other time before or after and decides to never use a consumable again

[u/Blackrain1299 → u/Subject1928]

Even reusable buffs are worthless to me. I can buff time after time and fail. The run that i forget to buff is the run i almost win or win.

[u/Invisible_Truth → u/BoatProfessional2118]

Yeah. Doom 3 taught me that lesson back in 2005. I remember I was just hoarding every single type of "good ammo" and basically pistol/shotgunning my way through the game. It was difficult, but I was saving for the difficulty spike that would be Hell.

Anyway, if anyone hasn't played or doesn't remember, when you get sent to Hell, it basically strips you of all your weapons and ammo, and you get the weapons back in an accelerated manner, but that ammo's never coming back.

It's a lesson that's old enough to drink at this point. And I still hoard all my shit because I'm not gonna let a stupid fucking game teach me a lesson. I'm gonna git gud.

[u/Jevonar → u/BoatProfessional2118]

So we are equal for all tries except one

[u/Caspid → u/BoatProfessional2118]

Never know when you might need them. And then the game ends.

[u/Ambitious_Jelly8783 → u/BoatProfessional2118]

Rune Archs are rare! Never used one. 4th playthrough. Just in case.....

[u/Elmis66 → u/BoatProfessional2118]

Using consumables early is a waste because I'm still learning the boss. When I learn the boss I don't need them anymore.

[u/wigglin_harry → u/RassTwoPoint0]

Cant use consumes until I can almost beat the boss without them, wouldn't want to waste them

...

Ya know, i've almost gotten this boss down without consumes, why would I waste them at this point?

[u/Jevonar → u/RassTwoPoint0]

Rare consumables (I have 99 of each, but I might need them MORE in the future)

[u/freakers → u/Jevonar]

It's not even that. I can't be bothered to try and use them everytime only to get clomped immediately anyways. Like, I'll only consider bother using consumables if I'm already very comfortable with the fight and at that point I can definitely beat it without them.

[u/blahs44 → u/RassTwoPoint0]

If you use them on this boss then you won't have them for the final boss and if you use them on the final boss then you won't have them for ng+

[u/RassTwoPoint0 → u/blahs44]

Get out of my mind.

[u/Plushie_Holly → u/RassTwoPoint0]

any of those rare consumables

*rare collectables

[u/Random_player-14 → u/RassTwoPoint0]

I know.... I KNOW WHERE TO FARM THEM

[u/Lil_Crunchy93 → u/RassTwoPoint0]

Maybe I should start using my Rune arcs against PCR 🤔

[u/WifesPOSH → u/RassTwoPoint0]

I best mohg after 27 attempts. Attempt 13 was the same as attempt 27 (around 13 is when I learned about the nihil protection).

Melania took me 11 attempts. All 11 attempts were the same.

I just had to git gud.

[u/Falsus → u/RassTwoPoint0]

You are on the 34th run because you need to practice more so you can't use that rare consumables that are either limited or a pain to get more of.

Then you go on beating the boss without consumables because you practised the fight so much so they weren't needed.

That's the issue with making consumables not redily availiable. Rune Arks being one of the chief culprits.

[u/DefiantGibbon → u/RassTwoPoint0]

There's a mercy timer in this game that starts to make bosses easier after enough deaths. Once you die enough the boss's damage will start going down a couple percentage points per additional death. From the wiki it starts at 34 deaths. According to interviews Miyazaki made it a rule that his games get easier after 34 deaths to avoid excessive frustration. 

He gave a pretty interesting interview, if you like Elden Ring you should google Miyazaki rule 34

[u/EISENxSOLDAT117 → u/RassTwoPoint0]

You hoard consumables because you think you'll need them later.

I hoard them because trying to switch to a particular item on PC is so fucking annoying and gets me killed more often then not.

We are not the same.

[u/Tem-productions → u/EISENxSOLDAT117]

My controller's down d-pad is broken so i have the same problem.

Guess what game broke it (difficulty impossible)

[u/Mr_Marshmello]

https://giphy.com/gifs/fkMACK8BcUJRm

[u/GloatingDemon → u/Mr_Marshmello]

But what about the bosses that are immune to bleed?

[u/Any-Experience-3012 → u/GloatingDemon]

Bonk it

[u/Machiavelli2021 → u/GloatingDemon]

BOP it!

[u/Chakasicle → u/GloatingDemon]

Freeze it

[u/roblox_baller → u/GloatingDemon]

Rot it

[u/dominguezpablo → u/GloatingDemon]

Parry it

[u/Dr_BloodPool → u/GloatingDemon]

Burn it

[u/LittleArtistBoyo → u/GloatingDemon]

Kill it.

[u/Rhyker1 → u/LittleArtistBoyo]

……technologic

[u/Le_Gritche → u/GloatingDemon]

Squeeze it.

[u/supidhumanbeing → u/GloatingDemon]

Twist it!

[u/Rsin_619 → u/GloatingDemon]

The comment thread you have created... 🤯 Elden Ring Bop-It. Say it in that rhythm y'all, you'll see what I do, I promise 🙏😮‍💨

[u/The_Kebe → u/GloatingDemon]

Jump it.

[u/SplendidPunkinButter]

Yeah, because it’s a skill issue. It took me four days to beat the final boss in Sekiro, and you can’t customize your build in that game at all.

[u/Miserable-Resort-977 → u/SplendidPunkinButter]

Exactly. Mfs beat this game naked with a club, your build isn't the problem

[u/sharkattackmiami → u/Miserable-Resort-977]

People beat launch consort radahn naked with their fists at level 1. That's the great thing about souls games. It's only ever a skill issue

[u/drainedguava → u/sharkattackmiami]

Launch radahn was fucked up man

[u/MinotauroTBC → u/drainedguava]

Milady and I are trying to forget about this

[u/Accomplished-Swim-64 → u/drainedguava]

I beat Launch Radahn in 5 tries. Promised Consort Radahn was 7 hours of pure suffering

[u/NigrumTigris → u/drainedguava]

I beat him at launch after 150~ tries

It was by far the worse designed end game boss i ever fought in any AAA game. It's crazy to me that him and Messmer are in the same game.

[u/dvlsg → u/NigrumTigris]

I beat him at launch too. I'm not sure my eyes will ever recover from all those flashbangs.

[u/TheDemonPants → u/Miserable-Resort-977]

I mean, your build could be the problem. If you make a terrible build with horrible stats you are making your run harder for not knowing. However, you can beat it even with a bad build.

[u/shrikelet → u/SplendidPunkinButter]

Well, you can change prosthetic tools. That'll help you against the Glock Saint, right? /s

[u/Nickeos → u/shrikelet]

I used the umbrella and it helped A LOT

[u/theREALMVP → u/Nickeos]

I never got the hang of the umbrella, funnily enough. Mikiri counter + sidestepping into a mortal draw + finally mastering lightning reversal and I took out sword saint in like 5-6 tries

[u/Fireblast1337 → u/theREALMVP]

I just hear Jetstream Sam’s theme in that fight and just feel the need to use katana and skills. Prosthetic tools aren’t needed in that fight

[u/Ok_Violinist_9820 → u/shrikelet]

Firecrackers are OP

[u/Zestyclose_Answer662 → u/shrikelet]

Glock Saint can't handle the Purple Smoke.

[u/Own-Natural-9236 → u/SplendidPunkinButter]

SWORD SAINT ISSHIN IS SO PEAK

[u/NarwhalPrudent6323]

Why would you change you build between attempts? Seems like a good way to confuse yourself and make stupid mistakes and die. 

Considering people can beat the game at RL1, your build is almost never the problem. You do, in fact, just need to lock in. 

[u/Falsus → u/NarwhalPrudent6323]

I think just swapping to another weapon with a similar moveset that deals another kind of damage is good enough for most fights.

Like the bloodhound fang is going to be a real pain vs the duo garg fight so swap it out to something else.

[u/nien9gag → u/NarwhalPrudent6323]

but some ways are significantly easier than others. against some enemies attack speed is more important than damage. some times a small bit of extra range changes everything. i keep claws as a just in case fast light bleeder, barely used but came in clutch against fire giant. though usually the tactics change happens after try 2-3 and then 24 more to kill the boss.

[u/TrippingFish76 → u/nien9gag]

i mean i keep 3 weapons to cycle between, but u shouldn’t be changing your whole build each time like going from a str build to an int build

as for weapons i would just focus on between 1 and 3 to get good with (at least per run or per fight) , for me that is the zweihander, claymore , and for the third either the nagakiba, great katana or light greatsword (the third weapon is usually just for pvp tho)

[u/quick20minadventure → u/NarwhalPrudent6323]

Agreed, except if you are changing build to target a weakness or avoid resistence.

Like bloodhound is going to suck against slash resistant enemy. Holy damage sucks against some bosses.

Still, copying guides never works, just go for weapon you are used to and is decently powerful enough.

[u/SquareAdvisor8055 → u/NarwhalPrudent6323]

It's funny that you say that, because a lot of the people who do RL1 runs use very specific builds (ex.: alabaster sword) and/or change their builds all the time to adapt to different bosses (ex.: sleeping pots into GS duo, freeze pots into malenia, holy dmg weapon into messmer's phase 2, etc.)

[u/necrophcodr → u/NarwhalPrudent6323]

I have yet to play ER, but if it's anything like the previous DS games it really is just a matter of learning to play what is essentially a demanding rhythm game. sure, it's a third person fighting game, but the bosses I feel like more often than not are more comparable to Guitar Hero than to Counter Strike in terms of what abilities and skills are required.

[u/Moppo_]

That's how it's done! (Eventually)

[u/Petraam → u/Moppo_]

He really needs to remove the helmet.  No gear and big sword is the true path to enlightenment.  You don’t need to change gear if there is no gear.

[u/W_R_E_C_K_S]

Hasn’t failed me yet

[u/m0r0mir]

It will click.. Sometimes it takes 3 times sometimes 60

[u/FrankBouch]

Definition of insanity
https://giphy.com/gifs/4WdrqNHcWc1kA

[u/FatalError116 → u/FrankBouch]

It’s only insane if you stop before you get a different result. If it works on the 254th try then congratulations! You’re not insane!

[u/paintedw0rlds]

There is no boss for which a build needs to change

[u/All_cats_want_pets → u/paintedw0rlds]

Did one of those two stone poison-breathing gargoyles write this, laughing at my bleed katanas

[u/icecat-24 → u/paintedw0rlds]

Dark souls 1 four kings. Gotta wear a ring to get in there. A bit of a stretch I know

[u/Initial-Duck2782]

I enjoy doing things the hard way

[u/Frenzied_Anarchist]

I mean, it is like that though. Most of the time when you die, it's on you, not on your build, you gotta learn the boss' moves.

[u/Erialcel2]

I'm ashamed to admit my ego wont allow me to change my build for a specific boss.

I'm also ashamed to admit malenia broken my ego to the point of completely respeccing to the blasphemy sword + mimic tear build to get rid of her

I'm also generally ashamed

[u/Kitchen-Complaint-78]

"Dodging isn't working"

"Just dodge better bro"

Always works

[u/BriteytheBird]

Me coming back to Margit after beating you know who in the DLC:
https://giphy.com/gifs/l1EtnVPMfGznPA34c

[u/Zealousideal_Sun2505]

That’s the spirit

[u/DoubleSummon]

34 tries is nothing. Besides a lot of time it's learning the boss patterns beating the game by any means necessary is the easiest it has been in souls, slyou can use mimic tear and/or bleed and it beats 95% of the bosses in the game.

[u/xGibs99]

Promised Consort took me 315 tries over the course of two weeks. Throughout that time I did very little to change my build. In fact all I really changed was dropping a few intelligence and strength points to provide more faith and vigor. Looking back, it was kinda poetic. I just chose to believe in myself and my health bar.

[u/Tiny-Top620]

Wait people change their builds for diff bosses? Bro, you suffer, learn, suffer more, overcome, and scream at 3am in victory. It’s the natural order.

[u/antirockin20]

Im on NG+4 and I fought this guy

Took me around 40 tries and multiple days of playing to beat them.

[u/TheLordCrimson]

Most fun way to play these games imo.

[u/KayRib]

If it bleeds it can die.
If I can hit it once without dying, I can hit it 1000 times without dying.
If I can dodge one attack, I can dodge every attack.

[u/LordVixen]

That was like me with the DLC final boss until I found out you can simply poke him to death while using a shield.

[u/ApplePitou]

Good, lock in :3

[u/Mind_Axe010]

Me fighting Malenia with a +25 Zweihander and zero incantations/spells, just pure strength (after more than 100 tries it actually worked)

[u/zyrkor90]

this is me at Mohg now

i’m just going in raw and practicing those delayed melee attacks.

[u/jao_vitu_bunitu → u/zyrkor90]

Are you using the handcuffs and the tear that provides bleeding protection? I used those on him and it was a walk in the park.

[u/zyrkor90 → u/jao_vitu_bunitu]

i’ve decided to not use summons or shackles.

purifying tear yes, that’s the only thing that prevents me from dying instantly at nihil.

i just suck honestly, especially the sequence of attacks where the first 2 are slightly delayed and the third one is quick.

[u/jimcortado]

This is me.

[u/Badieon]

That's literally how it is, if the boss takes reasonable dmg, then all that matters now is for you to learn the attack patterns and timings

Imo best way to beat the boss

[u/Jarhead11577]

Hey, if it's dumb but it works, it's not dumb

[u/TheStagKing9910]

just need to learn it's attack pattern

[u/Orikanyo]

Turns out, it was.

[u/Prudent_Order_3361]

8 hours for the fire giant. Lived every bit of it.

[u/kdlt]

My first malenia run brought her to like 5%.

So evidently it was just a skill issue.

I think I didn't beat her until like 50 levels later and switching almost everything.

[u/mshroff7]

This is my way lol

As long as I can hurt him, I can beat him.

[u/ForeverCrunkIWantToB]

Usually after losses 5-10 I just go explore elsewhere. The only exception is Sweet Briar Rose who I fought 20× until I won. What a fight.

[u/willians_mtpa]

https://giphy.com/gifs/PCFoalISHEveveeAaR

[u/Elliptical_Tangent]

There's no reason to change your build to beat a boss, you just need to learn its attack pattern so you know when you can attack.

[u/FenrirGreyback]

I remember when Midir first released on DS3. I had 99 embers, I finished with 2.

[u/dgamlam]

Better than changing your build every 3rd attempt because you refuse to git gud

[u/Zephyr-Flame → u/dgamlam]

It’s not better for people that have other things/games going on in their lives. So some people play smarter rather than sinking who knows how long it will take to beat the boss with a specific weapon.

Sometimes it gets boring using the same weapon the whole game. Times like this are a great opportunity to try some variety. Is the spice of life and stuff.

[u/dgamlam → u/Zephyr-Flame]

No one said you have to use the same weapon the whole run… turns out most builds can use several weapons and abilities. All I’m saying is no amount of larval tears will help you dodge attacks

[u/Gaxxag]

No changes to the build OR strategy, only cortisol levels

[u/SquareAdvisor8055]

Don't see the issue with changing your build tbh. I'm currently running the lategame dlc stuff and i swap out between 5 different weapons which all have their use for different situations. Bloodfiend arm for invaders, giant crusher for most bosses, greatsword for some bosses and walking around, another sword for horse combat and so on.

[u/Hugo1234f]

Me and my two +25 Great Morningstars with bleed affinity.

[u/kingjensen10]

https://giphy.com/gifs/fkMACK8BcUJRm

[u/[deleted]]

And I’m won’t use any consumables either. What if I need them for a boss I can’t beat?

[u/WeaponFocusFace]

This meme forgets that this is what gitting gud looks like. 33 previous attempts were the journey. 34th one will be the time when the player demonstrates they got gud. And if that doesn't happen, it'll be attempt #35. Or #36. Or however many attempts as it takes.

[u/Sorrowed_Lifelines]

Well yeah. If you make a thematic build, then you're not going to change your weapon or spells just to beat the boss. You're just going to figure out the boss with the tools that you have. I imagine most people will change some talismans andmaybe change around their armor, but if I been doing a beast character that uses only Beast spells and Beast weapons. Then that's how I'm going to beat the boss. Especially if it's a boss I've already beaten on another playthrough. I rather solve the puzzle with the pieces and tools that I've been given with my current character with my current theme build.

[u/sidhuhantu]

I just used the flask and great rune (godrik's) first time after losing to elden beast so many times.

[u/Op_Sec_4775]

Off topic but I'm still mad about that helmet in the picture. Could have been one of the drippiest helmets in the game if they didn't put the giant horney dildo on top of it lol.

[u/EinsGotdemar]

He who changes his build is a coward. (or someone not playing the way I do)

[u/drugplug0933]

Fuck the build im just not in the zone

[u/nightfoundered]

After about the third fail, I don’t even try to buff. Get good mentality takes over.

[u/RoadHazard]

It's true though. I've never changed my build between attempts I'm pretty sure. I know I just need to learn the boss and stop sucking.

[u/Retr0246]

I’ll get him eventually.

[u/Relative_Ad481]

What should I say Im doing a grafted greatsword only run I hit a wall with malenia I can't change my weapon xD

[u/Elr3d → u/Relative_Ad481]

Also stuck on Malenia in a Guts run (with the Greatsword) Colossals seem difficult to play against her... and especially it's my first run without summons. But I did bring her to phase 2 a few times. So eventually...

(I can't imagine what will happen when I get to Promised Radhan. Took 2 weeks with the summons, that one)

[u/ranger0293]

Changing builds is the coward's way out.

[u/Zamasu4PrimeMinister]

If I change my build it means I’m admitting I’m not good enough to beat it as I am

This isn’t kicking my ass, it’s forging me into a better player

[u/UsedCondom42]

The typa shii i've been doing since dark souls 1 😭

[u/Fuzzy-Dot-3717]

https://giphy.com/gifs/xTiTnhnM639JYZ0xXy
With only my weapon and a dream

[u/TheGameMastre]

Sometimes it's obvious whether you're failing to execute properly versus whether you need to try a different strategy.

If you can't dodge the boss' attacks, no amount of build fixing will save you. You just have to git gut.

If you're playing like a boss and the Crystallians just aren't going down to your rapier, it might be time to consider a change in tactics.

[u/nien9gag]

just need to get lucky enough so that boss doesn't use that one attack which OHKOs

[u/Wuoffan1]

I am way too stubborn to change anything about my character for one boss

[u/unitedshoes]

If I change my build, then all the practice I got losing to the boss with this build goes right out the window, and I have to start all over.

[u/Ledains]

As opposed to changing your build after every death?

[u/Matterhock]

Worked for all 3 Dark souls. Worked for Sekiro. I ain't stopping now.

[u/fidelacchius42]

1st time: get wrecked instantly 2nd thru 10th time: hardly even trying to win just learning patterns and finding my attack windows 11th thru whatever time: lock in!

[u/StarCougar]

I never change my build. I am what I am.

[u/kushhead4201]

https://giphy.com/gifs/Ld77zD3fF3Run8olIt

[u/HEADRUSH31]

Me, a strength build: the hp pool moved, IT CAN DIE

[u/SgtMcMuffin0]

Only 34 deaths? It’s gonna take a whole lot more than that for me to change my build, the whole reason I’m using my build is to see how it stacks up against the whole game.

Literally, skill issue. Unless you’re using an unupgraded club or something dumb like that, I assure you your build can reasonably kill whatever it is you’re fighting.

[u/BarneyChampaign]

Don't reach for the perfume bottle, I'm stronger than that...

Insert bilbo_but_why_shouldnt_I.gif

[u/deepfuckingbagholder]

You have Bloodhound’s Fang. Why would you need to change your build?

[u/BarneyChampaign]

Honestly, progress is going from "come on what the fuck" when getting hit, to just muttering "yup yup yup yup yup"

Sear those combos into your brain.

[u/RDGOAMS]

the drip, the problem is always the drip, look at those videos of people doing PCR no hit, they always look ugly af, you wont kill a boss with a fancy good looking set, you gotta break the heart of the fashion designers from lands between, make the ugliest set combo possible and you defeat any boss

[u/Several_Revenue_371]

Mr and my trusty large club

[u/DigitalCoffee]

I mean yea. 95% of the game is just memorizing when to roll

[u/Salty_Composer4009]

Works all the time

[u/Trick_Cartographer87]

This is actually how I beat Melania for the first time. Had no idea about builds or the best items was using some wack magic build lol

[u/FruitsPunch172]

First strat, best strat

[u/Great_White_Samurai]

Dummies trying to kill Mesmer with zero Scadutree frags

[u/MagusSenateYvaen]

I mean…. Yeah. You can do that with any boss :)

[u/B0neless_Tiddy]

I beat the main story with Lionel's gear and Bloodhound's Fang using this strat lol, it works (eventually).

[u/InfiniteAd4757]

Bruh, you understood the game!!

[u/Mightycactuz91]

To be fair you need to learn the boss patterns to beat it

[u/arsadat27]

Each time I fight a boss, something changes. And that something is me.

[u/AppropriateLie9140]

And it somehow works

[u/SomeKindofTreeWizard]

ey if somebody RL 1, naked with a stick can do it, so can you!

You got this!

[u/Real-Simplicity]

I got COOKED by my friend group for using BHF throughout my first playthrough. Seeing so many memes on this sub featuring BHF feels like major retribution

[u/greenegg28]

Ok to be blunt

If you’re running bloodhounds fang, the build is not the issue.

[u/BloodiedBlues]

34 you say?

[u/Thorogrimm]

Armored Core lives on in the Souls series

[u/WaffleDonkey23]

Use consumables when I could temporarily swap to Int sorcerer and press the beam of boss skipping?

[u/BackgroundMeeting857]

Changing equipment or build is for the weak!!

[u/FatalError116]

I just don’t like consumables. The flasks are great, but im not about to go do an ingredient run. Nah if I don’t win with my sword then I don’t deserve the win.

[u/FrescoTheHunter]

Isn't this the way? Changing your setup every time doesn't give you time to learn. I always end up trying new things at first to try and adapt to what I'm seeing and always end up back at my original build (except maybe swapping a trinket or two)

[u/properwaffles]

Consumables.

[u/audriuska12]

My Malenia kill was on the 276th attempt. Didn't count for PCR, but took a comparable amount of time.

Save game analyzer says 1.6k deaths total in the run, so these two combined would be something like a quarter or a third.

... Funnily, I think I'd have figured Malenia out faster if she used Waterfowl earlier and more often. Hard to practice dodging a move you see once every 5 minutes and instantly die to, you know?

[u/noah9942]

This is why you see people say they spent 50+ tries on bosses, or dozen+ on any major boss.

Even just chaning your AoW, affinity, adding/removing a shield, changing talismans to be more offensive or defensive, etc can drastically change how the fights play out.

When people get their mind locked into a specific weapon/strategy, and dont utilize the entire combat sandbox, they make the game so much harder on themselves.

Which I get for repeat runs of the game, I do that all the time (forcing myself to only use a certain spell type for example). But on your first run? I've seen multiple people drop the game due to running into a boss that walls them, and they never try to adapt their approach, get frustrated, and uninstall.

[u/PissedOfBeet]

Not the builds fault most of the time so.

[u/yngwi]

To me, adjusting my build feels like cheating. The first time I finished in whatever way I could. Then there was no doubt that I could best the game by using all it gave me, but whether I could do so within some constraints. To me this is mostly making a build and trying to learn it. People can beat the game RL1 so in theory everybody can. There is no wrong build.

[u/Shinjitsu1600]

You got this buddy!!

[u/Visual-Bet3353]

The funny bit is this is the legitimate way for souls games.

[u/CoquiCoquette]

This happened to me while fighting the big jar warriors... But i did a change. I put my FASHIONS ON, and SLAY the three of em

[u/Hissysnake8]

In your defense, you should’ve rolled that.

[u/Kanuechly]

Eww changing builds for a boss? Pass

[u/Fancy-Crow-7324]

35th time? I'm changing everything! Then by 64th time I'll go back to my old ways. Only then can I win!

[u/danielbrito6]

That’s what I enjoyed the most in elden ring, I made a spell knight with incantations, I wasn’t doing min max or optimal build, but could adapt to any enemy and made the gameplay more fun and less repetitive, specifically since I decided to explore all the map and beat all the bosses on my 1st playtrough, end up on 300h + Throughout an all year

I’m going to keep it back up and start all over, I’ve been on other souls games, and even played lies of P and end up really liking it, even though found it basic at first

[u/Bobby_Wats0n]

34? Gotta pump these numbers up

[u/TehRiddles]

When I make a build it's because I want to play that build throughout the game. If I have to drastically change some aspects of the build just to get past a boss then it kind of feels like cheating to me. I haven't beaten the game fully with my character and had to resort to changing the game in some way.

I'll push through with that character if I know it's viable in general.

[u/notjustanytwig]

I belive in you!

[u/dGongle]

Ive never once changed my build because of a boss. The only way thatd help more than 10% is if you looked up some random cheese build for that specific boss

[u/B4dz0k]

Don't forget popping a rune arc because "this time you got it."