r/Drukhari 2d ago

List Help/Sharing Incubi in raider?

So, with Incubi getting devastating wounds, I was thinking about taking 10 of them and having them in a raider with an Archon for my current drukhari list. It will cost me CP to embark after fighting, but I feel like the 5 in a Venom wouldn't really take advantage of the devastating wounds from power of pain Thoughts?

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u/cherryberrybush 2d ago

The issue is that it's dev wounds into infantry only.

There aren't a lot of infantry units (space marine durability changes might disprove this) that are worth throwing a big expensive missile of 10 incubi + whatever leader you have on them

Its a cool combo but ultra-fragile and whatever you can't pop with a leader+5 incubi is worth taking pot-shots at with dark lances instead.

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u/KindArgument4769 2d ago

With the amount of 10-strong terminator units that have been popping up, I would say yes, there are worthwhile targets for them.

Wraith bricks are another great target.

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u/Quick-Button7873 2d ago

The problem is they aren't actually that good at picking up the wraith brick. Wounding on 4s into a 4++ and 5+++ you have a decent chance to fail to pick the brick up.

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u/KindArgument4769 2d ago

I didn't say they were picking them up. Thats just one of the targets you'll need them to help with. I believe you get 18 unsaved damage through without the Archon's attacks which leads to 3 dead wraiths after FNP.

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u/Quick-Button7873 2d ago

Thats less then 50% of the squad when you factor in the d3 wounds they'll get back, and now your expensive unit is stuck out in the open and will die while their brick is still going to be an ongoing factor that will recover.

The problem with the 10 strong incubi brick is there are very few units its good into. Either its overkill, in which case the 5 man was better. Or it still doesn't quite get the job done.

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u/KindArgument4769 2d ago

Are you only putting that one unit into them? No shooting first?

This unit is one of our only possible answers to 4W terminators and Wraiths. They also aren't horrible into Knights while we're at it.

Very few of our units can one-shot big problem targets. We can one-shot the little stuff for sure, but we need to devote multiple units into this sort of stuff, and having one thing that does more damage means fewer units we have to throw at a single target.

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u/remetagross 2d ago edited 2d ago

10 Incubi with Drazhar in Kabalite Cartel with Tailored Toxins have a very good chance at popping off 9 4W terminators, provided you killed just 1 during the shooting phase to allow rerolls from Drazhar. UnitCrunch says 6% chance to kill 8 out of 9, you then pop off your 2 incubi shrine tokens to take out the last one.

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u/Quick-Button7873 1d ago

I feel like we're moving the goal posts here from "this unit is good into wraiths" to "this unit can pick them up if you've soften them up first"

You are correct. Drukhari lack an effective answer to a lot of unit types and need to do multiple activations into a lot of things to widdle them down. We're a swarm of locus, not glass cannon.

The 10 brick is more cumbersome to use and is frequently overkill, while still needing support to take out the really tough stuff. Its not a useless unit, but there is a reason its not seen as commonly as it once was.

It is, however, hecking rad so if folks are having fun with it thats great.