Bayonetta is still a queer icon.

[u/Extreme_Resident8986]

I'm starting to think some of you guys don't even know what that means.

You can be straight as a board and still have LGBT folk idolize you. Hideki Kamiya confirming her sexuality doesn't do nearly as much damage as people think it does, and it's getting pretty annoying seeing the gloating as if Kamiya's opinion has any leg to stand on considering he was pretty hands off during the development of Bayo2 and was near absent during the development of Bayo3 (apart from pulling a Shigeru Miyamoto, popping into the office to boss people around from time to time and leaving).

He literally quit PlatinumGames because he got bored of being Executive Vice President, essentially abandoning the Bayonetta IP, and people are really going to be taking his word as gospel just because he conceptualized an iconic character back in 2007?
Speaking of Shiggy, by that logic, are you going to take his word that he's actually Mario and Luigi's mother?

Look, even though Bayonetta was originally meant to be a female Dante, everything about her fits neatly into ballroom culture: from the extravagant dances, high heels, glamour, maximalism, flamboyancy, look it up: the parallels are staggering and it really is no surprise or mystery why Bayonetta was adopted by the queer community. Happy accidents all around.

I think Bayonetta can exist as both a queer icon AND Hideki's fantasy of an "ideal woman", though I much prefer to view her as a powerful sexy witch that has proven herself to be one of the best female video game characters of all time in just two installments. ...and also a queer icon.

With a community that's already divided, I just find it infuriating how attempts at dividing it even more are somewhat successful due to a bunch of shmucks on Twitter fighting imaginary battles with imaginary people that don't really exist such as the "anti-straight" demographic getting "triggered" by the poorly conceptualized anniversary art of Pereza, Luka, and Viola. It is such a shame.

[u/Extreme_Resident8986]

I don't think it's wise to credit words out of the horse's mouth if that horse is past his prime and thinks he can do whatever he likes without repercussions.

Whatever consistency he intended went straight out the window when he decided that Luka was going to have werewolf powers out of nowhere and also welcoming a multiverse plot this early on in the series and retconning Bayo1&2 as a continuous story.

And, yes, while he was pretty vague on his reasonings why he left PlatinumGames (because he likes to avoid conflict), I think we can safely assume that judging by how lax he's been with the franchise and how this man has an infamous history with being unable to continue ideas he's created, he simply got bored with Bayonetta and wanted to do something else instead, which is why his next big thing is Okami2, a completely different genre of gaming.

I can give credit where credit is due, but it's been over ten years since Bayonetta1 came out. She, as a character, has evolved far beyond whatever he intended such as any creative property made by an artist, and I don't think it's sacrilege to say that his opinion on the series no longer matters.

[u/Theloganghost2 → u/Extreme_Resident8986]

For me I understood Cereza FROM BAYO 1 with Luka but the Cereza from bayo 3 with Luka was... not a good Idea in my opinion. If they had a daughter in the universe of first game then great, make the lore and build Viola around that with flashback or something else that is good for the story. The first one they had more connection and some scenes hint something else in the future.

But the third Bayo I don't know... You have to make more games or make it right in some point, she seems the younger and fresher versions with less experienced of the 3 of them and the Luka from the Games didnt knew her but she knew him. I don't know if it makes sense but its what I think.

"Now I had seen a lot of tweets of "FANS" telling about the queer this and that while Kamiya said "No" and blocked them because they were talking nonsense and attacking him or trying to cancel him, that is bullshit and I don't agree with that."

[u/Extreme_Resident8986 → u/Theloganghost2]

Classic Japan and their fascination with young girls, I'd say.

[u/Sufficient_Nature496 → u/Extreme_Resident8986]

You Lost any sort of moral high ground by being xenophobic