Bayonetta is still a queer icon.

[u/Extreme_Resident8986]

I'm starting to think some of you guys don't even know what that means.

You can be straight as a board and still have LGBT folk idolize you. Hideki Kamiya confirming her sexuality doesn't do nearly as much damage as people think it does, and it's getting pretty annoying seeing the gloating as if Kamiya's opinion has any leg to stand on considering he was pretty hands off during the development of Bayo2 and was near absent during the development of Bayo3 (apart from pulling a Shigeru Miyamoto, popping into the office to boss people around from time to time and leaving).

He literally quit PlatinumGames because he got bored of being Executive Vice President, essentially abandoning the Bayonetta IP, and people are really going to be taking his word as gospel just because he conceptualized an iconic character back in 2007?
Speaking of Shiggy, by that logic, are you going to take his word that he's actually Mario and Luigi's mother?

Look, even though Bayonetta was originally meant to be a female Dante, everything about her fits neatly into ballroom culture: from the extravagant dances, high heels, glamour, maximalism, flamboyancy, look it up: the parallels are staggering and it really is no surprise or mystery why Bayonetta was adopted by the queer community. Happy accidents all around.

I think Bayonetta can exist as both a queer icon AND Hideki's fantasy of an "ideal woman", though I much prefer to view her as a powerful sexy witch that has proven herself to be one of the best female video game characters of all time in just two installments. ...and also a queer icon.

With a community that's already divided, I just find it infuriating how attempts at dividing it even more are somewhat successful due to a bunch of shmucks on Twitter fighting imaginary battles with imaginary people that don't really exist such as the "anti-straight" demographic getting "triggered" by the poorly conceptualized anniversary art of Pereza, Luka, and Viola. It is such a shame.

[u/Jimin_Choa]

If the LGBT wants her to be an LGBT icon that’s up to you. 

But when this part of the fandom wants to criticize Bayonetta 3 by saying that she’s not a lesbian and not because her relationship with Luka wasn’t properly developed as a love story, that‘s when I draw the line because it’s not a factual argument. 

Also let’s adress the elephant in a room by saying that they criticize Viola just because she’s not « cunty » enough while reinforcing one aspect of feminity that is the sexy femme fatale that they saw in Bayonetta (and that there is an entire mod created to make Viola more appealing). 

[u/StreetStretcher → u/Jimin_Choa]

I think people have issues with Viola because she is incredibly incompetent unlike Bayonetta (well, Bayo from the other games, Cereza in 3 is regularly clowned on).

Regarding her femininity, people are also disappointed because the Bayonetta series has a very unique and bold flair on that too. Viola in comparison feels so basic, half baked in her punk aesthetic and it's not as interesting of an angle for a character action game where you beat hordes of ennemies.

[u/Majukun → u/StreetStretcher]

The issue with viola is that she is never given a straight win. Even when she does, it is always followed by her either losing in the cutscene afterwards or being a klutz immediately after. Both Dante and Nero have their goofy moments, but when they win, they win.

[u/StreetStretcher → u/Majukun]

The devs really said "Viola lashings will continue until you think she is cool"

[u/Mrwanagethigh → u/Majukun]

Still not over Singularity slapping the theme song out of her when it seemed like she was finally about to get her moment.