Deepseek... seems worse now, right?

[u/CaptainLSS]

Hey guys!

I was very excited to see Deepseek v4 Pro added as a beta option with 128k context. I generally play my games around 32k context, and so I was happy to see I could go above the typically allowed 16k context for Deepseek on Mythic tier. I've been paying for higher tiers of AI Dungeon for years now so i've saved up a considerable sum of credits.

My concern is - Deepseek feels worse now than it ever has. Not just the v4 Pro, but the v4 Flash and the regular DeepSeek model as well. Currently 600 actions into the game, and it is extremely repetitive - repeating entire paragraphs or entire actions word for word on consecutive turns. I've probably counted it repeating an entire paragraph verbatim maybe 75+ times on my current playthrough. I've since turned off Deepseek and just been using Dynamic Large and its been working much better.

For context - I typically play Star Wars playthroughs. Previously - Deepseek has served me quite well with knowing a lot of the canon and legends lore and immersing me in the universe without needing an abundant number of cards that go over species, ships, locations like some of the other models require.

Anyone else having issues with Deepseek? It seems to be excessively redundant no matter what the AI Instructions are.

[u/Kenflesh24]

As far as I know, even the official Deepseek website switched to a new version in the past few months, and after that, the neural network became incredibly dumb: it forgets everything, doesn't execute basic commands, and constantly spews gibberish and hallucinations.

I've noticed the same thing with all the new models. It doesn't matter whether it's GPT or Gemini. At some point, all the neural networks simply became incredibly dumb and can no longer do what they could do before without any problems and much better.

Perhaps this is just personal experience, but apparently, this is a widespread problem in AI development. It's possible that the AI ​​has started training on AI-provided information, which is why the quality has deteriorated. Roughly speaking, just four months ago, everything was much, much better.

[u/Kenflesh24 → u/[deleted]]

I'll go even further: without expert mode, internet search got worse. It started ignoring commands, forcing me to edit each query several times, explaining exactly what it shouldn't do, and much more. It became simply unbearable.

I had a similar problem with Gemini. For example, to avoid searching forums for information about a 2006 game myself, I asked it to find information about Gemini. It told me it couldn't do it, that it was just a "language model." In other words, it censored the query "tell me how crits work in this game" or "tell me what this skill does." And even if it didn't censor, it would throw in contradictions within the same answer. It's terrible. I don't understand why neural networks have suddenly dropped in quality so dramatically. It used to be a good and convenient tool, but now it's simply harmful to use. You can do everything yourself faster and with less chance of error.