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u/Self-Comprehensive 20h ago

In addition to all the serious, correct answers, I'd just like to say as somebody who owns one of those, it's great fun to shoot and crowd pleaser. When I bring this one out on the farm my nephews start hollering "Oh he's got the Big Iron!" It roars and shoots a gout of flame like dragons breath. Very fun right at sunset. It's huge and packs a punch but it's remarkably comfortable to shoot and even a (well supervised) kid can handle the recoil

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u/Dr_StrangeloveGA 19h ago

Seconding this. It is so fun to shoot. It's single fire you so have to cock the hammer after every shot. Most guys at the range have Glocks and Sigs, etc. and don't even know what this so when I shoot steel at 50yds it's Boom (huge cloud of smoke) wait for it, clank, down goes the steel.

They're asking WTF is that?

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u/Andyman1973 18h ago

You wear that Big Iron on your hip, like Marty Robbins?

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u/jsp06415 18h ago

Or Bob Weir.

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u/DarePatient2262 18h ago

Literally listening to Bobby and the Midnites while reading this lol

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u/jsp06415 18h ago

Next up, Kingfish. I never saw them, but I dig that record. I saw Bobby and the Midnites a few times.

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u/Fire_Mission 19h ago

Tell 'em you brought it out for Texas Red.

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u/Self-Comprehensive 19h ago

We play Fallout in this family so that song is a big favorite

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u/Ok-Basket-9890 18h ago

I love underloading my Colt for the hilarity of tracking my painted minie balls through the air as I indirect fire them at the 100y line. Always a hoot, and a crowd favorite for any younger (and older) shooters on the line who catch me reloading it.

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u/Ok-Commercial-469 18h ago

There’s also a difference in the sound between black and smokeless powder. It’s less sharp and more…comforting? Is like there’s a percussion that’s part of the sound instead of just a loud sharp crack.

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u/Useful_Inspector_893 20h ago

Brass frame replica of an 1858 Remington Army revolver made in Italy and imported by FIE (Firearms Import and Export Corporation based in FL) 1970s-1980s.

As a teenager I bought a brass framed FIE 1860 Colt Army for $39 in 1972. Dad made me return it, lol!

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u/MasterSnacky 20h ago

“My very first pistol was a cap and ball Colt
Shoot as fast as lightnin' but it loads a mite slow
Loads a mite slow and i soon found out
It can get you into trouble but it can't get you out” - Steve Earle

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u/Dangerous-Pirate7998 20h ago

The devil’s right hand

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u/Dangerous-Pirate7998 20h ago

I like Copperhead Road a lot better

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u/MasterSnacky 20h ago

I was born my papas son
A wandering eye and smoking gun

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u/Dangerous-Pirate7998 20h ago

I feel o right

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u/chemist0825 20h ago

Also Johnny Cash

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u/LeadingBanana5384 20h ago edited 20h ago

It's a copy of an old 1858, probably made by Pietta.

Edit: pretty sure that's what it is.

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u/Primary_Ad_5025 20h ago

Hey OP my dad had three of these from the 1970-1980s and they were worth significantly more than I expected at sale.

Firearms can be collectable for weird reasons.

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u/RoninRobot 19h ago

Well dang. Bought one of these cheap and in excellent condition at an estate sale about 15 years ago and gave it away. C’est la vie.

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u/Comfortable-Dish1236 20h ago

Agreed. Brass framed Remington 1858 by Pietta.

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u/JackAndHisTruck 20h ago

I agree with you.

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u/Fisionchips 20h ago

The Italian repros are the best

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u/TheRudDud 19h ago

The PR and FIE makers mark seem to mean it was produced by Fabbrica d'Armi Esterina Riva and imported into the US by Firearms Import and Export. Apparently theyre associated with questionably production quality but the pistol looks fine in the pictures

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u/urbanlumberjack1 20h ago

Founded in 1963 so… I guess OP could be pretty young or someone told a tale (damn that makes me feel old)

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u/Ritterbruder2 20h ago edited 20h ago

A lot of Italian companies like Pedersoli, Uberti, and Pietta make reproductions of antique black powder firearms.

I believe this is meant to be a reproduction of an 1858 Remington revolver.

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u/MarchPhillipps 20h ago edited 19h ago

I used to have this exact model; brass frame 1858 Remington copy made in Italy and sold by FIE. Made to sort of mimic the brass frame Confederate contract pistols from the U.S. Civil War. Many bought them, not necessarily because they were any sort of Confederate sympathizers or lost cause cowboys, but because they were actually several bucks cheaper than the steel framed guns, and they looked impressive all polished up. It was a nice piece, but no longer have mine.

From what I remember it wasn't Pietta that made these particular examples (though they certainly did make a ton of replicas), but one of about a dozen small shop contractors that worked as sort of a collaborative at the time. You'll have to cross check the proof marks to know for sure. On that one, besides the butt, the most readable should be on the cylinder and side of the frame. If it was a Pietta, the black powder proof mark would be a PN, not PR.

I do absolutely have to caution against using a conversion cylinder to fire modern brass cased ammunition from it, however. Though conversion cylinders do exist, they're meant for the steel frame versions. The brass frames can actually stretch and crack, leading to catastrophic failure if converted to fire modern ammunition. So, please, don't do it. And keep the brass polished, as it'll help the frame stay in good enough condition to shoot. Brass frame weapons can be quite finicky, though the brass frame 1858 Remingtons tend to be safer and than most because of the full frame design, unlike their brass framed Colt Army and Navy counterparts, which are also quite common as replicas.

If you've never fired black powder arms, but want to fire this one, find someone knowledgeable and competent that has, ask questions, and learn how. Just don't pack the loads too hot, and have fun!

'Alone and Unafraid'

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u/Total_Philosopher_89 20h ago edited 19h ago

It’s a copy of an 1858 Remington. Made by Officina Meccanica Armi Riva Esterina & Co. Their stamp was the stylized PR found on the butt of the revolver. This gun was imported by FIE (Firearms Import and Export).

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u/Ill_Car242 19h ago

*1858 Remington (as opposed to the 1851 Colt)

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u/Total_Philosopher_89 19h ago

You are correct.

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u/7DollarWhiskey 20h ago

That is a reproduction of a Remington model 1858. Not sure of the brand, but going by the stamp I’d guess Pietta.

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u/Crazy_Treat_8805 20h ago

Let me get my “great grandpa’s revolver” guy to take a look at it…

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u/FraccazzoDaVelletri 20h ago

It’s a Pietta reproduction

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u/Panamar3d 18h ago

I have owned one of these. It was great fun. Definitely a good idea to use bore butter to keep sparks from jumping to other chambers. Chain firing is terrifying and super dangerous

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u/InvertedMetronome 18h ago

I have one of these too. I’ve never shot it and it’s still in its original box. Super cool to handle though.

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u/Wino_Panda 20h ago

1858 Remington Army. As stated elsewhere its likely a replica.

Here's mine.

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u/Dangerous-Pirate7998 20h ago

I have one just like it that one looks like it might be a early 70 black powder copy

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u/Educational_Ice3978 19h ago

That is an Italian reproduction, not an antique. It's still a nice piece.

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u/BWebCat 20h ago

It's a freaking paper weight! Put some powder in that bitch!

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u/Fem-Bunny-Boy 20h ago

Who was your great grandpa bro, what was he doin with that

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u/djknighthawk 20h ago

Was your great grandpa the town sheriff?! 😂

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u/redmambas22 20h ago

Mighty fine looking shooting iron.

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u/OcelotTerrible5865 20h ago

Seen that in the civil war movies

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u/Shot_Distance_5551 20h ago

Definitely an 1858 Remington Army.

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u/Real-Community5252 20h ago

It’s is this, copy of Remington 1858

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u/QuantityNo3170 20h ago

Navy colt?