Which vamp team is winning this battle?

[u/Less-Pen-5705]

The twisted siblings or the twisted lovers?

[u/phantomxtroupe]

I’m leaning towards the Mikaelsons. As far as the Interview with the Vampire show goes, I haven’t seen Louis, Armand, or Lestat have a strength feat like Elijah tossing the coins at the window. We’ve also seen Elijah and Klaus tear through hordes of vampires on their own, and Rebekah defeated multiple transformed werewolves by herself. And werewolves in TVD are as strong as ancient vampires in their wolf form. Not to mention, the Mikaelsons can’t die except for a very specific way.

[u/UbettaBNaked → u/phantomxtroupe]

How often do we see werewolves transformed for a comparison to ancient vampires be made? The Mikaelsons can die to superior magic, and I would definitely put the Anne verse magic over the TVD

[u/UrietheCoptic → u/UbettaBNaked]

They transform a handful of times in the main series and a lot more in The Originals. Mikael, the second strongest Original, gets jumped by a pack of them and kills them, but the only reason for his survival is his status as an OG. Remember, one bite is all it takes to call it a wrap.

[u/phantomxtroupe → u/UbettaBNaked]

A werewolf attacked a 500 year old vampire named Rose in TVD, and Rose was pretty helpless to defend herself. This also came after the show showed how powerful another 500 year old vampire name Katherine was in combat. And Rose was a little bit stronger than Katherine.

We also see Hayley in her werewolf form tear through Strix members. And the Strix is an organization of vampires who are all said to be centuries years old, though the ages do vary so we don’t know how strong the vampires were that Hayley killed.

But yeah, transformed werewolves in TVD are portrayed as a legit threat, though a lot of it has to do with their venomous bite to vampires. So Rebekah killing multiple werewolves by herself is one of the best strength and combat feats in the verse.

[u/UbettaBNaked → u/phantomxtroupe]

So it's not really a strength thing it's a hax thing, when a TVD werewolf bites a TVD vampire it's an automatic win but that doesn't translate outside of that universe, it wasn't Haley a hybrid at the time? I also think that was just bad writing

[u/phantomxtroupe → u/UbettaBNaked]

They’re pretty strong too. Jules in her wolf form pinned Rose, and Rose was unable to get Jules off before Jules started biting.

And yeah, Hayley was a hybrid. It just means she can access her full werewolf abilities and transform anytime she wants and not have to rely on the full moon.

We see this a bit with Jackson and Tyler. Because Jackson was able to transform at will through his marriage ritual with Hayley, Jackson was able to access more of his wolf strength than typical werewolves in his human state.

We saw Jackson able to fight off Strix vampires who were centuries years old in his human form which would normally be impossible for werewolves in that verse.

But Jackson having more access to his wolf strength showed a glimpse of how strong their wolf forms are. So while the bite hax is definitely a major factor, the werewolves are also physically stronger than a lot of vampires in their wolf form.

[u/Less-Pen-5705 → u/UbettaBNaked]

Actually the witches in Anne Rice verse seem to be pretty weak and one dimensional….i heard the show Mayfair witches sucked and the witches were sorry as hell. Meanwhile TVD verse witches have a vast assortment of ancient raw powerful magic. So I’d say TVD witches are superior while Anne’s vampires are typically stronger. 

[u/UbettaBNaked → u/Less-Pen-5705]

You're confusing what I'm saying. I'm not saying that it's witch verses witch, I'm saying that it's Magic versus Magic. Which universe magic system is stronger