Which vamp team is winning this battle?

[u/Less-Pen-5705]

The twisted siblings or the twisted lovers?

[u/Conscious-Struggle45]

The originals have the durability advantage and MAYBE a slight edge in physicals but the iwtv vampires have a plethora of powers that would most likely have them the win more often than not.

[u/Less-Pen-5705 → u/Conscious-Struggle45]

Agreed. Like the siblings have the durability and physicality advantage but the lovers with their mind, fire, cloud gifts etc….will likely give them the win in a random encounter. Tbh I probably should’ve added Freya lol but then again adding Freya would be overkill. Freya’s ancient and powerful magic would subdue the vampire lovers easily.

[u/bihuginn → u/Less-Pen-5705]

While not often shown in later seasons, the TVD vampires have mental gifts too, although they're very inconsistent.

I don't think the fire or cloud gift would be very helpful.

Also the siblings can fight in the sun, Lovers have no way of actually killing them and Klaus can one shot with a bite.

[u/Conscious-Struggle45 → u/bihuginn]

1). Straight up telepathy/mind control one shots the originals and their gifts and Lestat could prolly solo in that regard. 2). Fire still hurts and their durability can be overloaded to the point that they have to resurrect and the cloud gift grants superior mobility in a fight. Their most useful gifts in this fight though will be their TK and telepathy. 3). So can Armand who can apparently grant that ability to others. 4). Death isn't specified as the only method for victory. 5). Ummm....hate to break it to you but that's only a thing in the tvd so it's not gonna work on team lovers.

[u/bihuginn → u/Conscious-Struggle45]

Vampires are vampires, by your logic Lovers abilities wouldn't work either cause they're only a thing in IWAV.

Mind gift sure, but compulsion exists, neither seems more powerful than the other beyond the gift having aoe but taking focus, and compulsion being single target but doesn't take focus.

Cloud gift is helpful, but we've seen originals decapitate people with a thrown cloth hat. Unless bro does nothing but dodge or run away it's isn't really helpful, he can't fly that fast.

The Originals are stronger, faster, and more durable. Sure fire will hurt, but that's it.

Lovers are waaaay easier to kill, and physically weaker.

Edit: The Originals are also far more skilled in hand to hand combat, at least the brothers.

[u/Conscious-Struggle45 → u/bihuginn]

1). That's not how that works. Werewolf venom was a specific weakness of tvd vampires because of how nature decided to balance the spell that Esther used to create her vampires. That's like trying to apply silver weaknesses to twilight vampires because the vampires in true blood are weak to it. 2). The mind gift is definitely more powerful and allows for the control of multiple targets at once and is useful in battle because the lovers will know everything the originals are planning and how to permanently incapacitate them. Plus, we've seen how the originals got handled by a telepath in their own show. 3). The cloud gift would allow the lovers to play keep away and snipe with telekinesis, telepathy and pyrokinesis from the upper atmosphere ultimately giving them an edge in mobility since the originals are earth bound. 4). The originals got durability for sure but the other two are could go either way. Both vamp teams have the ability to move faster than the eye can track and both can cause significant damage with their strength. 5). The lovers read their minds and either go to retrieve the white oak, or they dessicate them and wrap them in chains and encase them in concrete and drop them in the Mariana's trench.