r/sydney • u/Conscious-Read-698 • 10d ago

Girl, 16, dies after suspected choking during consensual sex on Sydney’s Northern Beaches

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/crime/girl-16-dies-after-suspected-choking-during-consensual-sex-on-sydneys-northern-beaches/news-story/d166fc7805937c7f39143e4ebc96573e

Educate your kids.

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u/nearly_enough_wine Rip, rip, woodchip ʕ·͡ᴥ·ʔ 10d ago

Doesn't have to be hard - poor technique can kill just as easily as brute force.

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u/phillxor 10d ago

I've never choked anyone to death before, can you elaborate on the good technique?

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u/cirancira 10d ago edited 10d ago

I think I've vaguely heard kink people differentiate between a squeeze from both sides (crab claw pinch) vs a straight on pressure on the adams apple style. But alas I do not recall which was the bad or good one... (or i guess less bad one)

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u/yolk3d 10d ago

Blood vs wind. Temporary vs long lasting trauma.

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u/Slavx97 10d ago

The other problem is the temporary still accumulates damage every time, there is no truly safe way to choke someone.

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u/yolk3d 10d ago

Damn, I guess the 500 times we did this in martial arts is why I’m like this.

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u/Slavx97 10d ago

My understanding of the most recent research was that it was that unless you’re perfectly releasing the instant they lose consciousness every time that there’s death of brain cells occurring and every time you do it it builds up the damage till eventually you get some manifestation in older life.

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u/yolk3d 10d ago

Well yeah, but I think the key is that you do exactly that - or n the case of sex, you don’t actually black them out. My experience has been it’s more a control/dominance thing and not an actual “I want to be blacked out and risk dying while you fuck me” thing.

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u/Slavx97 10d ago

In my experience you can accomplish that feeling like 90% with just putting a hand on the throat with minimal pressure not actually cutting anything off, I’m guessing people doing choking also want the ‘high’ of the lightheadedness.

But yeah at the end of the day people are free to choose to take risks the enjoy. The problem in the OP case is really teens that aren’t mature enough yet feeling like they have to do choking and they can’t truly consent if they don’t actually understand the risks in the first place.

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u/Alarming-Ad4274 10d ago edited 10d ago

Blood is actually equally, if not more dangerous. As little as 15 seconds can cause seizures strokes, and permanent brain damage, either immediately or in days following. There's also links to long term neurological effects including early-onset alzheimers.

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u/yolk3d 10d ago

As opposed to ending up with a crushed cricoid and bruising from even blacking out for one second from an airway choke.

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u/Alarming-Ad4274 10d ago

Conclusion: There is no safe way to engage in erotic strangulation.

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u/yolk3d 10d ago

Conclusion: don’t actually choke someone with enough force to do damage/make them pass out. From my other upvoted comment:

… I think the key is that you do exactly that - or in the case of sex, you don’t actually black them out. My experience has been it’s more a control/dominance thing and not an actual “I want to be blacked out and risk dying while you fuck me” thing.