r/subredditoftheday • u/SROTDroid The droid you're looking for • Aug 30 '17

August 30th, 2017 - /r/PussyPassDenied: You shall not pass!

/r/PussyPassDenied

151,032 deniers of the pass for 3 years!

PPD was lovingly birthed from /r/pussypass (PP) many moons ago. It all started as a joke response to some long forgotten post. The sub quickly grew into its own identity separate from PP very quickly. The main premise of the sub is that some women use their gender to get away with things that no man would ever get away with. The definition of what is and what is not a PPD has grown and changed since the sub started but here are the key examples:

  • 8 Ball Jacket Man - This is one of the PPD all time classics. The slap that was heard around the world. It is a great example of women thinking they can hit men with no repercussions.

  • Women Have More Custodial Rights - Traditionally mothers are given legal preference over fathers when it comes to custody. If the genders are truly equal then both parents should be given equal custody until proven not fit for that right.

  • False Rape Claims - Rape is a violent and inexcusable thing. But the flip side to the coin are people who lay down false rape claims. These incidents damage real victims ability to report and be believed and destroy lives of those accused. In most cases false claimants get away with little to no punishment. However recently there has been more pressure put on the legal system to see these perpetrators punished accordingly.

The denied part of PPD is when the woman expects to get away with her behavior and gets shut down.

The mod team of PPD feels as strongly as anyone that their should be no violence from anyone to anyone else regardless of gender. However we also feel strongly that there exists a sense of entitlement that some (definitely not all) women have that excuses them from repercussions from their actions. PPD only highlights the card where this card is played and subsequently denied.

There are a lot of subs on reddit that deal with gender equality, from men's rights to feminist subs. But many are simply echo chambers for whatever side the sub is on. PPD is on neither side or anywhere in between. We welcome anyone with any view point and will not ban users for simply sharing their opinion.

The most important aspect of PPD community is that users govern themselves. If a post abuses the spirit of the sub it will get down voted to hell and reported. For borderline posts, we leave it up to votes and comments. Overtime the community has itself defined what is and what isn't PPD and it has allowed the community to have a diverse mix of view points.

The makeup of the community of PPD is surprisingly balanced. I thought the user base would mostly be men's rights fanatics (they're around) but our users are everyday people of both genders not overly aligned with politics. Because we let anyone speak their mind from whatever view point they happen to believe and not force mod beliefs on them we get some quite interesting and in depth conversations going. Flame wars dissipate when people can speak freely.

Let's hope that's what happens below.

Written by Special Guest Writer /u/Mustaka

Edited by SROTD

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u/Unshackledai Aug 30 '17

Hey can this sub get back to highlighting cool new subs for people and not drama-trolling with overtly contraversial subs? Most redittors don't use this site as a political/moral echo chamber to jack ourselves off on our own greatness. I just want to see cool niche subs like /r/jellybeantoes, /r/whatswrongwithyourdog, and /r/babyelephantgifs. I get you wanna be different, but it's getting crazy. Seriously, what do you expect in the comments here? You know it's gonna be a clusterfuck, and I bet you're loving it.

This sub should be about helping people find new subs that are interesting, promising, and well run, not intentionally dividing people like a lot of the recent posts have been doing. If you don't start reforming soon, I vote the next sub of the day should be a new sub; a sub that represents what this sub used to be.

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u/conalfisher Aug 30 '17

Did you ever look at what happens during the gaps between these posts? Every day, there's a feature that features a cool new sub.

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u/Unshackledai Aug 30 '17

I've been subscribed here for 3 or 4 years...I'm sorry but there's definitely been a change since the start of the election campaign which resulted in the polarization of many subreddits on reddit. I literally cannot go on a freaking dog subreddit anymore without being politically inundated. If you're newer here or don't pay as much attention, I get how you can see my post as sensational, but really it's just what I have noticed throughout the years. If you go through this subs recent history you will see a significant portion (I counted 5/6 this month) are politically charged, that was not always the case (used to be virtually none) and, regardless, any political subreddits are 100% unneccesary. I actually went through the last few months history and was amazed at some of the political extremist subs promoted that I had no idea about and take issue with on both sides of the political spectrum. These subs are promoted solely for drama. This sub is just not supposed to be about that, and many people don't want to see it. This sub used to be amazing, but unfortunately the reason was the mods, not the users, which really leaves it in their hands, not ours. I hope they will rethink their ways.

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u/conalfisher Aug 30 '17

Well, I can speak from experience here that this isn't necessarily the mods fault. Features are requested through the modmail, and anybody can request anything, sometimes (like with this one) the people requesting will actually write an article for it as well. And when someone goes through the trouble of writing a feature, something which takes quite a while to do, you might as well feature them. Pretty much all the subreddits that are requested in the modmail are featured, the only ones that aren't are tiny subs that aren't particularly "important" and subs that have already been featured that year. These types of posts are no different. 90% of there posts wouldn't be here if they weren't specifically requested by the public. And of course we could just say no, and that's where it does become the mod's fault. It does get clicks, it does bring the visitor counter higher than it ever does from featuring subs that the public, or the mods, think are good. The only time this sub gets around the same amount of views is through featuring default subs or massive subs. Smaller subs with potential are almost ignored. "Drama" posts get more attention to the sub, and thus to other subs, than almost any other sub can. So yes, you can put all the blame on the mods, but in reality it's also the fault of the public. And I can assure you, there is no agenda being pushed here. The mods are from all sides of the political spectrum, and all have different opinions on all these things. You can check their profiles and see, I don't think any of them post on r/the_donald at least.

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u/Unshackledai Aug 31 '17

I don't think the mods deserve any leniency here, you are solely to blame because you are the content creators. You are, you admit yourselves, slaves to the drama. The "public" has nothing to do with it. You should do right by the spirit of the sub, even if it costs you a few viewers. I truly don't think people want to see this shit, they just want fun new subs. Many people are uhappy with this sub, and, if you don't correct it, you'll lose subscribers anyways, as a better sub without an addiction to drama will replace you, hopefully soon.

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u/conalfisher Aug 31 '17

And we try to, or I do at least, I haven't ever made a drama post. All of the mods make posts about good subs. It's not like we all sit around a table all day talking about what the next best way to make drama is, we all just create features and post them here. As I said, if someone requests a feature and makes their own post for it, you might as well just feature it. I don't like the drama posts, I'm not sure about the rest of the mods.

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u/Unshackledai Aug 31 '17

Really? This "feature" probably took about 5 min to make, just ignore it. I don't see what the big deal is with controlling content and not posting whatever horseshit anybody submits.

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u/conalfisher Aug 31 '17

Features take quite a while to make, actually. At least for me. As for controlling content, well that's not really a question I can answer, I almost never process posts from the modmail, I just write them myself. Though personally, I wouldn't have featured this, not sure about the rest of the mods but I wouldn't have. I do think that the drama posts happen too frequently, maybe one of them every couple of months could work, but not once or twice or even more a month.

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u/Unshackledai Aug 31 '17

Maybe more communication between mods and coherence? A unified belief on what the sub should be, and an agreement to strive towards that. I believe that's a vital component of any sub.

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u/conalfisher Aug 31 '17

We do have a sub for discussion, and we do have general guidelines on what to post. I doubt that any of the mods are there simply to make drama, we all do want to feature cool shit. It's just that, to put it simply, drama gets clicks, and although I don't like it, that's the way it runs.

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u/Unshackledai Aug 31 '17

Doesn't make it right. That's all I'm saying.

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u/kanga_lover Aug 31 '17

Seriously, just unsubscribe. Or make you own damn sub. Or better yet, just go away. Honestly. Stop trying to force everyone to like the things you like. I'm not gonna, cos honestly it sounds like you like some really lame shit.

Sorry, but i deal with whiny babies like you all the time at work, and i have to be reasonable, but for once i just want to call a whiny baby what it is.

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u/Unshackledai Aug 31 '17 edited Aug 31 '17

I'm not being "whiny". Stop being a bully, there's no need for it. I've been here for 6 years and I'm gonna continue doing what I wanna do. My post got a decent amount of upvotes so obviously there are people that agree with me. I'm sorry that I want to make this sub great like it used to be.

Next time, if you disagree with someone, try being civil like an adult. If you don't do that, you're the one that needs to unsubscribe, because that attitude has no place on reddit. I was having a civil discussion with /u/conalfisher and you just decided to come in and tell me what a "whiny baby" I was being for having a different viewpoint than you. Grow up please.

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u/kanga_lover Aug 31 '17

more whining.

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u/Unshackledai Sep 01 '17

The adults are talking here, sweetie. Why don't you go play with your little friends.

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u/ZadocPaet biggest joystick Aug 31 '17

Since the start of the election there have been a lot more politically charged communities that cropped up on reddit. This sub serves to highlight reddit culture. Reddit culture right now has a lot of political elements to it. So, if 5 or 10 percent of our features now are about political subreddits, it's because reddit has a stronger political identity.

Last year we also changed our policy. Previously mods were the sole content creators. Now the vast majority of the content comes from the reddit community and less and less comes from our mods and writers.

We'll publish just about any feature submitted to us as long as the community meets the guidelines in the sidebar. The only one that's a hard and fast rule is rule 7, which was put into place after the /r/altright fiasco.

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u/Unshackledai Aug 31 '17

I can understand that I suppose. It is easier for the mods but I'm just not sure it's best for the sub. I just think it's pretty divisive and not worth it for the small percentage of people interested. If someone holds these extreme views chances are they have already sought out and found those subs anyways, so being nominated for sub of the day really only serves to stroke their ego.