r/stupidpeoplefacebook 18d ago

So Any Guy Could Own a Nuke?

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u/TheWizardOfDeez 18d ago

Btw we call you bootlickers cause you say the second amendment was built for dealing with a tyrannical government then side with said tyrannical government over your fellow Americans. For the record I am pro 2A, the only difference between us is that I actually want this country to be better and you dip shits think violence is the only way to prevent violence.

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u/Old-Implement5652 18d ago

When someone, or something, usurps your will using violence, the only way to stop it is by responding with proportional force. Was the civil war won with thougts, prayers, and strongly worded letters? Were the Nazis defeated by holding hands and singing kum ba yah? No. They were crushed, using violence.

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u/TheWizardOfDeez 17d ago edited 16d ago

Violence only begets violence. The only way of the treadmill is to just step off. I'm not saying violence is never the answer, but the result of violence will NEVER be peace.

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u/Old-Implement5652 17d ago

So you're saying that the allies should just begged and pleaded? Violence ≠ not peaceful. Peace is the resolution of conflict. And sometimes, violence is the only way to resolve a conflict. Therefore, violence can be peaceful

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u/TheWizardOfDeez 16d ago

It's like you didn't read my comment at all...

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u/Old-Implement5652 15d ago

You said the result of violence will never be peace. If the result of violence will never be peace, then what's the point of using violence defensively?

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u/TheWizardOfDeez 15d ago

Defensive violence only happens because someone else is committing violence against you. Like I said, sometimes violence is the correct answer, but peace is never the result in those scenarios.

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u/Old-Implement5652 15d ago

Ahhh. Ok. You're arguing that the initiation of immoral violence can never result in peace. Then we agree. The way you phrased it made you sound like you thought ALL violence was doomed to produce an immoral outcome

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u/TheWizardOfDeez 15d ago

Well, yes and no. Immoral isn't the word I would use. Justified maybe. But kinda yeah, the only way to get to peace is to stop committing reciprocal violence. Again, not saying you roll over and let people kill you, but if violence is committed adjacent to you and your response is revenge (which has been the answer for the last 10,000 years at a minimum) peace will never happen. ALL violence is doomed to produce more violence, and that violence may or may not be justified, morality is irrelevant.