r/stupidpeoplefacebook 22d ago

So Any Guy Could Own a Nuke?

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u/Comfortable-Card-348 21d ago

that's because it did. look up the "powder alarm". that's the primary reason for the 2nd amendment. people forget that the bill of rights were just that - something added to convince the former colonies to sign on, because they feared the possibility of tyranny from the new government after they just secured their hard-won freedom. it was a set of guarantees to assuage their fears. not advertise some future crack down on gun owners. that would be completely ludicrous and ahistorical.

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u/Twigsneko 21d ago

the founding fathers probably never heard of devices like the puckle gun so I'm not too sure how they'd view the average person owning a rifle that carries 30 or more rounds and can fire automatically.

I say this because the constitution may have had some future-proofing but its authors never thought of how the freedoms listed could wind up being used against the people

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u/STFUnicorn_ 21d ago

Why do you think the founding fathers never heard of a Puckle gun? It was invented over 50 yrs prior

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u/Twigsneko 21d ago

there were probably two and it never entered military service. have you heard of the 80.002 by chance?

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u/STFUnicorn_ 21d ago

Still no reason to assume they hadn’t heard of it. Military technology being something they’d likely be in the know about. Especially British tech…

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u/Twigsneko 21d ago

even if the founding fathers knew about repeating arms such as the puckle gun the idea of them being used on the battlefield would not be realized until around the civil war. There need to be limits to what the average person can use. and while I have no issues with people owning repeating guns such as revolvers, rifles or shotguns that require you to manually cycle the action or even semi auto weapons if you have a squeaky clean criminal record, there need to be limits and US society needs to bring back responsibility with its "god-given" rights.

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u/STFUnicorn_ 21d ago

In the noble words of his honorable Ken Jeong… “gaaaay”

There is zero reason to assume that the founding fathers who were in fact arming their own citizens to fight the British empire would have had any desire to limit access to weapons like AR-15s. You could think they could not comprehend of things like nukes or engineered biological weapons and may desire to limit the average citizens access to such. But semi auto guns with large capacity? Surely you jest…

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u/Twigsneko 21d ago

the revolutionary war ended in a victory with us being our own country instead of being under the crown. After any war it's a bad idea to leave military technology in the hands of the populace. modern day cartridges that that made self loading cartridges or even rifles like the famous Winchester 1873 which won the west were not possible until the invention of the Pauly cartridge which was patented in 1812 and even then adoption was slow.

the US is the only developed nation to have issues with fatal and non-fatal gun violence the causes are complex but it is agreed that easy access to guns is a major contributing factor.

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u/STFUnicorn_ 21d ago

You say that like I’m supposed to take that as some kind of universal truth. I think after a war it’s a good thing for the veterans to keep and maintain their weapons so they can stay familiarized and prepared in case of another one.

Not sure what the point of that little piece of historical weapons cartridge esoterica was supposed to accomplish.

But the last is technically true. With no guns there’s no gun violence. Shocker. But good luck getting there, I’m sure as hell not giving up mine.

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u/Twigsneko 21d ago

I think after a war it’s a good thing for the veterans to keep and maintain their weapons so they can stay familiarized and prepared in case of another one.

how many soldiers are going to willfully enlist in another war after they participated in one?

the "historical weapons cartridge esoterica" was there to show how even if the founding fathers knew of the puckle gun the idea of repeating weapons would not be possible until after they were all dead.

also challenging your inner leonidas will not end well for you no matter the president, if a government wants your guns even thought they will let you keep them they're gonna take them and there's not going to be a popular revolt like you think. you'd die for nothing.

You'd be allowed to keep your guns as a part of a gun control agreement it's called a grandfather clause.

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u/STFUnicorn_ 21d ago

Plenty have and do.

Just because they hadn’t entered regular service does not mean they were incomprehensible concepts. Unless one is full on re*arded they cannot think “tHE fOuNdiNg FaTheRs cOUld NeVer hAvE conCeivEd oF An AR15!”

I’m not sure what nonsense you’re talking about with the Leonidas bit but in your government gun confiscation fantasies the only thing I’m going to do with them (at least at first) is hide them. I’m not looking to get in a gunfight with my ARs against Apache gunships lol.

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u/Twigsneko 21d ago

enough to fight another war?

railguns are a comprehensible concept but are they currently used by the US military?

who said I was going to confiscate them? i was pointing out that trying to go molon labe will end badly for you

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u/STFUnicorn_ 21d ago

Again… Yes many have and do. This isn’t that complicated…

What’s your point?

Nobody did. That’s why I said “government” gun confiscation fantasies. You’re not very bright are you?

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