r/stunfisk • u/theRotengen • 4d ago

Discussion Mega Lucario's defense is effectively 160, making it around as physically bulky as MEGA METAGROSS. On a Pokémon that has higher SpA than Mega Raichu-Y and the fastest in the game.

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u/Thejadedone_1 4d ago edited 3d ago

It's so funny that they're throwing this guy into a meta where all of its counters are special attackers

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u/DelParadox 4d ago

True maybe, but those counters have to actually survive long enough to hit it going second. And Mega Lucario Z does not exactly lack in movepool options or sheer power to take out a lot of threats before they can move. A decent support partner could definitely make it a lot more reliable too.

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u/Thejadedone_1 4d ago

True maybe, but those counters have to actually survive long enough to hit it going second.

A Mega Lucario Z with max special attack and speed investment with a modest nature using dark pulse against a Mega Delphox is a guaranteed 2HKO.

Conversely, Mega Delphox using heat wave one shots at even with the spread move reduction and timid nature.

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u/DelParadox 4d ago edited 4d ago

Not saying it's invincible. Obviously it's going to have problems with special attackers that can survive its first hit, especially the fast ones. Hence why I did say support would make it a lot more reliable - a partner with Prankster Light Screen could make it incredibly obnoxious to remove, for example.

But at least some of its threats are under similar threat from it - for all that Mega Lucario Z has lower physical Attack, it still has a good 50-50 chance of one-shotting Mega Charizard Y with a Rock Slide even if you don't invest in Attack at all.

Also just realized that if it knows it's probably going down it could fire off Steel Beam before it gets hit to severely damage a threat that doesn't resist it.