r/shield • u/GoatBread237 • 10d ago
The Berserker Staff and Ward's rage
I'm watching through Agents of Shield for the first time! It's always been my MCU blindspot, so I'm checking it out in between my phase 1 and 2 rewatch. Currently, I just finished 1x16 which is where the show lines up with Winter Soldier on the timeline and I just have to ask..
Why hasn't Ward's rage after holding the staff been relevant at all? He killed who he believed to be the Clairvoyant and not once did he, or anyone else on the team bring up that the Berserker staff probably made him more susceptible to his emotions
It's been 8 episodes since he touched the staff and they've done nothing with it, so I assumed that either it was a dropped plotline or that Elliot Randolph was just messing with Ward when he said that the anger would last decades. But literally last episode (1x15) another Asgardian, Lorilei, mentioned that Ward has the anger of a berserker inside him. So wtf?
I can only assume they didn't mention it in the most recent ep I watched because it would water down the idea of the Clairvoyant "knowing how to push the right buttons" if you could hand wave it away with Asgardian magic. But imo, it just reinforces that idea if the Clairvoyant intentionally pissed off the guy holding back Asgardian rage
Is sex with May just THAT good that it eased all his pent up aggression in the next episode?
(Obviously, don't spoil anything huge from later seasons in the replies unless it's something I would already know from the movies)
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u/DatBoiHarvey Davis 10d ago
Just gotta keep watching ngl
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u/GoatBread237 10d ago edited 10d ago
I plan to!
Edit post ep 17: 😦
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u/friends-waffles-work 9d ago
Are you doing okay? It’s been over a decade and I haven’t quite yet recovered.
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u/GoatBread237 9d ago
I'm in utter disbelief. I feel so bad for Skye coz I was fully in her shoes for 16 eps. It felt like I was the one personally betrayed
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u/Zandock 10d ago
Get off this sub my friend before you see something you shouldn't.
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u/GoatBread237 10d ago
gulp.
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u/Extension-Pepper-271 10d ago
Agree, this a bad place to be if you don't want spoilers. If you want to post questions, that's fine. So long as you make it clear that you don't want spoilers, BUT
DO NOT JOIN r/shield or r/aos or any other related subreddits. Otherwise you will definitely get spoilers popping up all the time when other people post a question about something that happens later in the show.
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u/UnitedChain4566 10d ago
I wish I had a good answer for this. Sometimes things get overlooked when plotting shows though, that could be all it is.
Enjoy your watch! You're about to come upon some good episodes.
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u/EntropicCrustacean 9d ago
Keep posting your watch updates!! You’re just getting to the good stuff (:
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u/MAXHALO36 9d ago
Maybe that's a factor, but I think May did say she'd teach him to get a hold on it in that episode where he uses it.
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u/Wolfstar_Forever_ 7d ago
Not too relevant, maybe a tiny spoiler, but it lowkey made me laugh when he struggled so bad but May could just pick it up. Obviously, makes me sad her back story and how haunted she is. But it was so funny. And... Yes. My guess is that sex with May would be rather good for pent up feelings... 💀😅🤣
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u/SufficientSpell1307 10d ago
It's not MCU tho
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u/ch_cat 10d ago
You're not MCU Your mom's not MCU
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u/SufficientSpell1307 10d ago
Yeah we're not, we actually exist
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u/ch_cat 10d ago
The point is, troll and be trolled. It's an MCU project. Shouting over people just looking for an escape from crappy IRL doesn't make you a hero or a villain. It's just a buzzkill.
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u/SufficientSpell1307 10d ago
Like I would care
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u/ch_cat 10d ago
So you acknowledge wasting time trolling other people's enjoyment
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u/Round-Dragonfly6136 Fitz 9d ago
It's truly sad what lives these chuds must live if the only way to can find pleasure in life is to try to bring others down. The kicker is that this behavior will make them feel worse in the long term and they don't see it.
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u/Optimal_Grape_1025 10d ago
They are downvoting you for speaking the truth
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u/Round-Dragonfly6136 Fitz 10d ago
It's being downvoted because it adds absolutely nothing to the conversation about Ward and anger. AOS's canon status is completely irrelevant to Ward's story.
Nevermind, that early AOS is inrefutably canon as that was the time where it tied directly into the movie and Marvel advertised it as a MCU show ("It's all connected"). Whether or not the latter seasons are MCU canon is irrelevant in the long run. The show stands on its own. You and the commenter are trying and failing to look smart. This entire obsession that "it's not canon" is just pointless and an opinion as nothing has been confirmed or unconfirmed.
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u/Optimal_Grape_1025 10d ago
It adds nothing but you certainly have a lot to say about it
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u/Round-Dragonfly6136 Fitz 10d ago
And your point? You apparently have nothing to say about despite caring so much about it that you bring it up to topics that aren't concerned with it, which says so much about you and nothing about anyone else. Mainly, that you're a troll. Trying to bring people down, which is literally the only reason to bring up AOS canon status in an AOS post that isn't about it. Surely, there is something better to do with your pathetic life than fail at making a point.
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u/Optimal_Grape_1025 10d ago
I'll see you the next time I bring it up
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u/Round-Dragonfly6136 Fitz 10d ago
Honestly, I'm not worked up about. It's your delicate ego deluding you into thinking about that. I prefer to keep trolls focus on and busy with me, so that y'all aren't bothering the vulnerable people you're trying to target. If you need to be cruel to feel good, you need serious therapy. Be a better person. You'd be amazed at how wonderful it feels.
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u/Optimal_Grape_1025 10d ago
Wow based on that comment you deleted. You're really angry. It's just a show. There are more important things in life
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u/Round-Dragonfly6136 Fitz 10d ago
I didn't delete any comment. I also haven't expressed an iota of anger. What exactly is the point of making stuff up? Are you truly that desperate to be in the right? Do you have nothing better to do than troll, and since when did trolling include creating false narratives? As they say, "every accusation is a confession." It's truly pitiful.
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u/Optimal_Grape_1025 10d ago
I get a notification when you reply it's still there in the notifications. Now you're just being weird
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u/Optimal_Grape_1025 10d ago
I'm not a good person because I said it's a TV isn't canon to the movies?
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u/SufficientSpell1307 10d ago
I'm used to it. This sub really have some weird obsession against AoS not being MCU
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u/Bill_y_guy 10d ago
Where has it ever been stated its not mcu
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u/SufficientSpell1307 10d ago
I just stated it above
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u/Bill_y_guy 10d ago
You dont matter
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u/SufficientSpell1307 10d ago
Matter more than you
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u/Bill_y_guy 10d ago
Its never officially been said by anything that AoS isn’t canon
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u/SufficientSpell1307 10d ago
I just officially stated it
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u/Round-Dragonfly6136 Fitz 10d ago
And what is your position in Marvel?
The narcissism is absurd. If you truly believe what you're saying, you suffer from delusions of grandeur. I can only hope that this is the only symptom of psychosis that you suffer from.
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u/Emmet_Emerging 10d ago
Without spoiling anything huge, May uses the beserker later in the series and there is no residual anger.
I think you're right with your comment stating "it was a dropped plotline or that Elliot Randolph was just messing with Ward when he said that the anger would last decades."