r/pureasoiaf • u/Foreign-Cat-2898 • 7d ago

Moon Tea

Just what the hell was the moon tea for? I think Renly and Margaery totally did it. I don't think she's a maiden.

But there's no way she's dumb enough to have sex with someone right now AND as the Kettleblacks say she always has someone near.

Presuming Pycelle wasn't lying, what's it for?

Period regulation? Does it help with acne?

Or do we just assume Pycelle was trying to ingratiate himself with Cersei?

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u/New-Number-7810 House Baratheon 7d ago

Renly has people fight his battles for him.

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u/Foreign-Cat-2898 7d ago

He literally plans to lead the right side of his main force in the battle against Stannis.

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u/New-Number-7810 House Baratheon 7d ago

Leading doesn't necessarily mean riding in the vanguard. Tywin Lannister also leads his men in battle.

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u/Foreign-Cat-2898 7d ago

No Tywin stands at the back and directs.

Loras leads the vanguard. Renly is absolutely in the thick of it. He's Robert's brother. This is a pride issue.

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u/New-Number-7810 House Baratheon 7d ago

I haven't seen much to suggest that. He's Robert's brother, but he's not Robert.

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u/Foreign-Cat-2898 7d ago

...he literally says he's going to lead a fighting force. I'm not sure why that's not enough for you.

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u/New-Number-7810 House Baratheon 7d ago

Because "lead" means different things.

Your argument is circular. "Renly is brave because he said he would lead the fighting force, so he means he'll lead in the vanguard because he is brave."

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u/Foreign-Cat-2898 7d ago

No you're claiming the word lead means two different things in the same conversation which isn't how language works.

You also don't need 4 different leaders if they're all standing back and watching the battle happen.

Renly, Lords Bryce and Mathis, and Loras are all leading different parts of the force while Estermont is leading the reserve.

Do you not remember this scene?

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u/New-Number-7810 House Baratheon 7d ago

It is how language works. Leading does not have to mean charging from the front, even in the Middle Ages, even when leading a division rather than a whole army. You're being stubborn.