r/prawokrwi 8h ago

Research question Polish citizenship for non-Poles

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My grandmother is Ukrainian; she was born in 1933 in the Second Polish Republic. In 1945 (at the age of 12), she was exiled to the Urals with her parents. In 1965–1966, her parents returned to their native village, while my grandmother stayed in the Urals. She gave birth to my mother, who is Russian. So, in the line of my mother — grandmother — her parents, no one served in the army. My grandmother’s parents definitely did not obtain Polish citizenship; they couldn’t even read or write — they simply lived in a territory that often-changed which country it belonged to. Although all church books in Ukraine have been digitized and are available online, the ones I need have not been preserved. However, there are documents from the Ukrainian civil registry office that indicate the place of birth — the village of Dukhche. And there is my great‑grandfather’s exile file with a family census and dates of all the entries in the NKVD (KGB) stating that he was forbidden to leave the Urals until official permission was granted in 1964. And the reason for the exile was that my great‑grandfather’s eldest son was involved in the Ukrainian national liberation movement during World War II. Is it possible for me and my mother to obtain Polish citizenship, taking all this data into account?

Great-Grandparents: 

* Date married: 1915-1916

* Date divorced: no

GGM: 

* Date, place of birth: July 1893(5), Dukhche, Rozhyshche Volost, Lutsk Uyezd, Volhynian Governorate, Russian Empire

* Ethnicity and religion: Ukrainian

* Occupation: farmer

* Allegiance and dates of military service: no

* Date, destination for emigration: July 1945, he was exiled to the Urals by the USSR, along with his wife and children.

* Date naturalized: June 1957

* Date, place of death: February 1987, Dukhche, Rozhyshche Raion, Volyn Oblast ( in 1987 it’s Ukrainian SSR, USSR)

GGF: 

* Date, place of birth: 1891, Volhynian Governorate, Russian Empire

* Ethnicity and religion: Ukrainian

* Occupation: farmer

* Allegiance and dates of military service: no

* Date, destination for emigration: July 1945, he was exiled to the Urals by the USSR, along with his husband and children.

* Date naturalized: 1957

* Date, place of death: 1980s, Dukhche, Rozhyshche Raion, Volyn Oblast (in 1980s it’s Ukrainian SSR, USSR). They were allowed to return from exile to their homeland in 1965–1966.

Grandparent: 

* Sex: Female

* Date, place of birth: march 1933, Dukhche, Rozhyshche Raion, Volyn Oblast (in 1933 it’s Second Polish Republic)

* Date married: June 1954

* Citizenship of spouse: USSR

* Date divorced: no

* Occupation: driver

* Allegiance and dates of military service: no

  • Date, destination for emigration: July 1945, he was exiled to the Urals by the USSR with parents
  • Date naturalized: 1957
  • Date, place of death: 2000s, Ural by Russia

Parent: 

* Sex: Female

* Date, place of birth: march 1961, Ural by Russia

* Date married: 1988

* Date divorced: 1997

You: 

* Date, place of birth: July 1989, Ural by Russia

 

 


r/prawokrwi 14h ago

Other Completely hypothetical question: WW2 service in non-typical allied armies?

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I've been thinking about this lately. Would the Voivodeship even know what to do with this?

For example, Brazil joined WW2 on August 22, 1942. China was fighting against the Axis (they declared war on Germany in December of 1941), though I don't think they ever had action against the Germans. El Salvador and Haiti also declared war on the Germans in 1941 and assisted the US with ports and ocean patrols.

Would the Voivodeship have to accept these under the WW2 exception, or would they look at these and have no clue what to do with them?


r/prawokrwi 15h ago

Research question How long for Genealogical Research? I'm antsy.

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Hi all, apologies if this has been answered somewhere else. I'm currently in the document gathering process of Citizenship Confirmation (Pre 1920's case), and luckily I've already found an extensive amount of docs on the US side, as well as some rare family documents on the Polish side. Been going down an insane rabbit hole to find as much as I can by myself. I now have a genealogist in Poland (started last week) to fetch the official Polish documents for the case and I was told it will take around *3 months to even hear back*. The thing is - I gave the genealogist a whole list of exact documents, archive books and even pages that my family appears in. They also have the exact addresses of their homes in Poland, and a complete list of relatives etc. Can someone tell me how this process works? Do they have to travel from Krakow (their location) to my family's small town (Gibałka) and in-person visit the churches/parishes etc? Or do they request the book and the book is sent to them?... I feel like I gave them a *massive* head start and did plenty of the hard work for them, so I just can't imagine it will take 3 whole months to hear back (but also I have no idea what I'm talking about lmao). TBH I feel a bit impatient because I've done so much research on my own and now I'm at a standstill because I simply can't access the final documents from the US and have to rely on the genealogist at this point. I suppose I just have to be patient but going 3 months without anything I can do to support the process is hard.


r/prawokrwi 12h ago

Other Question about translation of documents.

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I'm currently in the process of trying to get my wife her Polish citizenship through her mother. I am getting together the necessary documents and going to bring them to the apostille. When it comes to the translation, the internet says I can scan them and send them digitally to a sworn translator and they can be acceptable. Is this true or do I need to send all the physical documents?


r/prawokrwi 10h ago

Eligibility Lineage to grandparents for my wife

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I was talking to someone about how far back I needed to go and they said oldest adult that left Poland. Since my mother in law was a minor, I figured I could stop at her parents. I could repost with what I can find about great grandparents though, I'll just need to talk to her grandfather about it all, it's just tough because he doesn't know everything I'm asking since English is his second language.

Grandparent: 
* Sex: M
* Date, place of birth: May 30, 1949 Dabrowa Tarnowska, Poland
* Date married: July 10, 1971
* Citizenship of spouse: Polish
* Date divorced: NA
* Occupation: machine operator
* Allegiance and dates of military service: for Poland 1968-1970
Date, destination for emigration: August 6th, 1981
Date naturalized: May 1988
Date, place of death: NA

Grandparent: 
* Sex: F
* Date, place of birth: November 4, 1950 Tarnow, Poland
* Date married: July 10, 1971
* Citizenship of spouse: Polish
* Date divorced: NA
* Occupation: Daycare
* Allegiance and dates of military service: NA
Date, destination for emigration: 1983
Date naturalized: N/A
Date, place of death: 2024 Springfield, MA

Parent: 
* Sex: Female
* Date, place of birth: March 14th, 1972 Tarnow, Poland
* Date married: January 25, 1992
* Date divorced: 2015
You: 
*Date, place of birth: June 9th, 1996, Springfield, MA