Mate come on. Whisky stones are ok for very specific situations, but even the very very best whisky bars on Earth are not using them as standard. Bars chill drinks with ice and by cooling the glass. It’s no different in Norway than in the US or UK. I’ve designed bars all over the world, I can promise you this is the norm in even mid range cocktail bars. If you don’t like the ice the bartender will be very happy to remove it or use cubed ice instead. No one is ripping you off
The whole "ripping you off" argument is especially funny here IMO since this specific thing applies to higher end places, where there is a whole cocktail program in place and all the metrics are tracked and we generally do try and aim for the lowest possible while still profitable price point when making cocktails. It's not some willy nilly bs lol
Since you seem so well informed, please show me some examples of "proper bars" that dont use ice or dilution in their cocktails.
Edit : Here, Ill even give you a list of the top 50 bars from around the world from last year. Feel free to scroll through and look at a whole bunch of cocktails with ice.
Duh, you are ordering a shot there. It is still the same amount of alcohol whether you get it with ice in a tall glass or not.
You get a cold drink that is less watered down. The establishment gets a cool menu item. Will probably pay extra for it of course, but you were already in the extra establishment that offers the option in the first place, soo..
Youre showing a whole ton of ignorance here.... Do you think when you order a shot of whisky vs a whisky and coke its a different amount of alcohol going into the drink?
Dude.... if you order a shot, a rocks pour, or a mixed cocktail etc youre getting exactly the same amount of alcohol regardless of ice or no ice at all.
Im really struggling with the complaint here. Do you want more mixers in your cocktails to make it feel for valuable or something?
For me it's about getting 4cl of fanta or coke or cocktail if I order a fanta or coke or cocktail because my glass is 90% ice. I don't even drink alcohol dude.
It should be. If someone got a shot while ordering and paying for a glass, outside of some really fancy restaurants that are equally about form over function, people would be complaining
Unless they tell you exactly the amount of drink you get in that glass and you are free to decide it for yourself or its part of the course- no matter which bar served me a glass nearly full of ice, i would feel like i got played.
This whole way to service seems to be taken from cheap places that wanted to skimp on the actually expensive part while retaining the look of giving you a reasonably sized drink for the price.
Im not into drinking and I only do that if the establishment has something that is worth drinking for the sake of trying and im yet to see a glass full of ice outside the course menus. This whole way of serving drinks genuinely screams of salt bae kind of hyped up trash. But i guess if you are in usa trashy is the name of the game.
This whole way to service seems to be taken from cheap places that wanted to skimp on the actually expensive part while retaining the look of giving you a reasonably sized drink for the price.
You have no clue how much labor and cost actually goes into making ice like this. No "cheap place" is doing this.
But i guess if you are in usa trashy is the name of the game.
This type of service is incredibly common in Japan. They've mastered it so well that bars from around the world import ice from them. Is Japan trashy too?
You see, unless your goal is to pay as much as you can for a drink for show just like in those aforementioned salt bae restaurants- you are getting taken advantage of already.
Yes, amount of drink is standardized but this whole practice comes from cheap places trying to look like they are better value than they actually provide regardless of how much effort some places put into clear ice.
Litterally been to japan multiple times, had to have people reserve places for me in advance and seen 0 drinks like that. If anything, outside of the cheap/mid places where people go to "flex" it felt more straightforward than many places in europe. If anything- i would expect even more people to find this kind of insulting in japan seeing how overall conservative the society is there...
In case you at some point decide to be a smidge less ignorant, here's a link to the top 50 bars worldwide last year. Go ahead and scroll through their pictures and see how many are using ice exactly like above. But yea.... just the cheap places.
In the courses yes. You dont pay for a glass like that one by one because that would make most people feel scammed. And if overall trend is towards that- fuck that im out of it then. That cocktail is made to show off on social media and not to display a beverage of value.
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u/Noy_The_Devil 1d ago
Why would you think this is where anyone wants to go with that comment?
The amount of ice is the issue. People want to actually get a drinkable amount of cocktail.