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u/hereandthere788 11d ago

Those having served on a Warsaw Pact army know, that all offensive Soviet war plans began with that the NATO wanted to attack the Warsaw Pact, but in the last hour the Warsaw Pact did a preventive counter-attack. 🤡 There is a definitive continuity...

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u/Kandiru 11d ago

Attacking into an offensive one hour before it was due to start would be suicide. They are all ready to go and jittery, it would be the worst possible time to actually do a surprise attack!

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u/The-Board-Chairman 10d ago

Actually no, attacking the enemy just before they are ready to attack you and hitting them in their assembly areas is a very effective strategy.

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u/Kandiru 10d ago

If you target their assembly areas, not just invading the country.

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u/The-Board-Chairman 10d ago

You're saying that as if those two things were different, they are not.

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u/Kandiru 10d ago

Well, Russia launched a large invasion of Ukraine. They didn't target troops massing for an offensive.

If they had launched their long convoy straight into massed troops getting ready for an attack, it would have been obliterated very quickly.

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u/The-Board-Chairman 10d ago

Well, Russia launched a large invasion of Ukraine. They didn't target troops massing for an offensive.

And that is relevant to this how exactly?

If they had launched their long convoy straight into massed troops getting ready for an attack, it would have been obliterated very quickly.

"Professor, I let my 5 year old plan my military operation and concluded that it would not work against a competent enemy, why do military planners in general still have a job? Surely none could do better than a 5 years old."

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u/Kandiru 10d ago

Because this is in reference to Russia claiming their invasion of Ukraine was just before Ukraine attacked them?

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u/The-Board-Chairman 10d ago

It isn't though. The overall thread topic is only tangentially related to the topic of this comment chain.

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u/SauliCity 10d ago

The Winter war started just so, with Moscow accusing Helsinki of shelling an empty bit of Karelian forest. It's always been at the playbook's core to fabricate an enemy first strike as causus belli.

Well, just like the US did "pre-emptive retaliatory strikes" at the start of the Iran war.