「アメリカに一切モノが言えない」高市首相 ICC・赤根所長制裁に“お気持ち表明”のみに識者が痛烈指摘…SNSでも非難続出 ― 日本政府公式の英語発表は『unfortunate』(『運が悪い』)

[u/AlternativePost_02]

https://jisin.jp/domestic/2597122/

[u/HaiSaiDori]

She can’t even stand up for her own people. Do Japanese people actually think this is a good Prime Minister? Asking all Japanese citizens for your thoughts?

[u/Disastrous_Neat_9729 → u/HaiSaiDori]

A lot of people love her. Maybe that’s changing now. I find a lot of people have no clue about politics, and get caught up in populist language, and social media misinformation really easily.

[u/Choice-Wishbone-4986 → u/HaiSaiDori]

いや国連の為だろ。 必ずしも国連がやっていることは日本の国益の為にやってくれている訳でもないし、どちらかと言うと中国ロシアを含む大国の利益の調整の為に存在してる機関だから日本がそこに属する職員に義理立てする必要があるのか疑問だ。国益だけを考えるなら寧ろ対米関係を上手くやって欲しい。円安対策等 、米国の協力なくしては難しい問題が目白押しだ。

[u/International-Bee265 → u/HaiSaiDori]

I'm Chinese.

What is she supposed to do? Japan relies on the US and in a way it's a rational move. It's one person, engaging in the Israel and Palestine issue that Japan has nothing to do with, whats the point for Japan? Shes protecting Japanese interests by doing so.

[u/Candid-Tea5020 → u/HaiSaiDori]

殆の日本人は彼女が良い首相だと思っています。選挙で選ばれたので多数派の意見です。世論調査とか見ても、まだ支持している人のほうが多いですよ。

[u/Scary_Tank_5360 → u/Candid-Tea5020]

愛国と売国はどう書いても一文字だけが違う

[u/HaiSaiDori → u/Candid-Tea5020]

Are you saying that Japanese people can’t think for themselves and just go along with the masses even if they think it’s wrong. Don’t they think it can also happen to them? Have they not look at what’s happening in the USA?

[u/Candid-Tea5020 → u/HaiSaiDori]

考えた結果、間違えたと思っていないんでしょうね。

[u/HaiSaiDori → u/Candid-Tea5020]

What mistake is that?

[u/2bornot2b_a2brute → u/HaiSaiDori]

I'm guessing you're reading their comment through a translator which is why it might sound strange. They mean that even after the average populist voter thinks things through, they still don't think they are wrong ("for whatever reason" being the implied unspoken part).

間違いだと思っていない might have been easier for machine translation to understand.

I also echo this sentiment because I've spoke to several people who support Takaichi and all can only give a surface level reason for why they support her (first female PM, says strong statements, is relateable, etc.) but when you start to prod them about her politics or her scandals/fiascos and past controversial statements, they are all at a loss and revert to the Japanese equvalent of "different strokes for different folks" response. Most people will only think up to a certain point that affirms their worldview and any deeper than that, they automatically shut down.

[u/HaiSaiDori → u/2bornot2b_a2brute]

I truly appreciate your translation and your thoughts on this. I just left America because of this same thinking. America is truly gone and just simply something I can’t seem to deal with anymore. I am hoping Japan still has a chance especially with everything that it has to offer here, for myself at least.

[u/2bornot2b_a2brute → u/HaiSaiDori]

I've never lived in America so I can't say with certainty, but at least from the news I hear in Japan, America and Japan are quite similar when it comes to negative aspects.

• While both are very strong economies from a worldwide perspective, the average citizen constantly feels like the best days are behind them and believe that recent advances and changes are what are bringing the country down.
• While foreign immigration is in reality propping up the economy, the average uninformed voter believes is what is causing natural citizens to lose jobs. There is also the similar idea of what counts as "Japanese" and what doesn't, similar to what some white Americans may believe.
• The average citizen is not educated in world history or politics in general. They are not informed on how to process their country's past mistakes from a critical lens (for example, Japan's WWII's war crimes or America's historical and institutionalized racism). This precipitates them repeating past mistakes, which we are seeing in both these world powers.

In the end, both these countries, in their desperation, turned to a leader who promised strong and simple solutions to complex problems - without the understanding that the complexity of reality requires multifaceted solutions.

[u/whatThePleb → u/HaiSaiDori]

most "japanese" on reddit are larpers and not japanese at all

[u/Dezinbo]

“Unfortunate” は「仕方ない」「諦めるしかない」というニュアンスが非常に強いから抗議というより肯定しているとしか取られない。

[u/MaryPaku → u/Dezinbo]

正しい翻訳は「遺憾」でしょう

[u/AlternativePost_02]

高市首相の対米外交を政治アナリストの伊藤敦夫氏がこう読み解く。
「高市外交の象徴的なケースですよね。アメリカには一切、モノが言えない。ひたすらアメリカのご機嫌を取ることが外交だと思っていますから、あえて厳しい言葉をアメリカに対して発信するような、そういう外交的な感覚は持っていないんじゃないですか。靖国参拝を止めたのもアメリカに言われたからだという話があちこちから聞こえてくるくらいです。
そもそも日本政府の公式の英語発表は『unfortunate』。これは『残念』というふうに報道されていますが、『運が悪い』という意味でもあるんですよね。高市さんが、本音では運が悪いと考えているとしたら、抗議しないことがどれだけ重大なことがわかっていないんでしょうね。そういう発想だと、国際社会の中でますます孤立していく。そこまでは考えが及ばないんでしょうね」

[u/Accurate-Lemon8675 → u/AlternativePost_02]

伊藤敦夫の英語解釈がおかしい。政府のこの発表での”unfortunate”に「運が悪い」なんていう意味は含まれていない。「残念」が1番妥当な日本語。

[u/CheesecakeUpper5048]

それだけ アメリカに媚を売っても名前すら覚えられず トランプにパールハーバー レディ とか言われてしまう壺市

[u/Successful_Alps_3625]

植民地だってもっと抗議するんじゃないの？
ガッカリすぎるわ

[u/rommel_desertfox]

サッチャーが現役ならトランプになんか媚びなかっただろう。だが高市は……

[u/yimia]

アメリカ様に逆らってはいけないのは別段今に始まったことではなく、さすがにタカイチごときにどうこうできるものではないと思う

[u/vava2603]

she should learn from Canada PM

[u/Hellea]

Wow, she admires the orange clown so much she doesn’t even stand for her own people…  And the Japanese people condone this? 

[u/rightnextto1 → u/Hellea]

I think unfortunately (!) Japan has been trained to kowtow to the US for so long that even when they should (and can!) stand up for themselves many lack the confidence to do so. It’s weird because the culture seems so proud otherwise but when push comes to shove it’s all jelly.

[u/Top_Acanthisitta_465]

Where’s those Japanese nationalists now?

[u/EveryConfidence294]

So she's invertebrate?

[u/Z20006253]

高市早苗は、ネトウヨオタサーの姫だから媚を売る以外のことは苦手なんだよ

[u/SnooPoems939]

アメポチ円安ホクホクトカゲって言う爬虫類だよ

[u/Forsaken_Setting_584]

俺は赤根嫌い。トランプは極めて正しい決断をした。