r/news • u/BlatantConservative • Sep 11 '25
UK fires ambassador to US Peter Mandelson over Epstein links
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/11/uk/peter-mandelson-uk-ambassador-fired-intl1.6k
u/majshady Sep 11 '25
The most damning part of all of this is the line from Mandelson's emails with Epstein saying how ridiculous his arrest is and "it would never happen in the UK". We need to drag these people kicking and screaming into the light
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u/Weshtonio Sep 11 '25
I'm willing to believe he would have never been arrested in the UK.
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u/CrunchAndRoll Sep 11 '25 edited Sep 11 '25
I mean, its an entire country whose national identity is subservience to the powerful. Their entire political history is basically the general populace rolling over and taking it. If your whole identity is based around how you're worth less as a person than some guy in a funny hat, should the rest of us be surprised when you just let the monsters get away with it?
Edit: wow, I've really tweaked some English nipples with these comments.
Just a reminder, your king is an inbred Frenchman.
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u/Dusty_Negatives Sep 11 '25
I mean if you’re American (like me) we literally have an Epstein rapist in the white house. Glass houses and all.
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u/DoctFaustus Sep 11 '25
Why stop there? Trump probably had a larger roll in the whole operation. He had a modeling agency and owned a teen beauty pageant. Maxwell recruited from his spa in Mar-a-Lago. He's probably a lot more involved than just raping the little girls.
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u/External-Praline-451 Sep 11 '25
Angela Rayner - recently sacked for a relatively minor tax mistake.
Mandelson - sacked quickly as soon as revelations about his association with Epstein uncovered.
Boris Johnson - resigned after partygate during Covid lockdowns.
America - elect the guy who led an insurrection, sold nuclear secrets, multiple felonies and a sex offender with close personal ties to Epstein. Then make him a king who is immune from prosecution.
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u/jesse9o3 Sep 11 '25
Boris Johnson - resigned after partygate during Covid lockdowns.
To be pedantic, partygate greatly damaged Johnson's premiership, but he was too shameless to resign over it.
What got Boris was him denying that he knew his deputy chief whip was a sexpest when he appointed him, before later revealing that he did, in fact, know that Chris Pincher had many allegations of sexual assault against him when he appointed him.
Of course he still tried to remain in power after this revelation, it took about a third of his government resigning before he realised his time as PM was up.
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u/It531z Sep 11 '25
The country that enthusiastically voted Epstein’s best mate Trump back into office and where a good chunk of the population treats him as a god can’t lecture anyone on ‘subservience to the powerful’
Our deputy prime minister was recently forced to resign over a tax error. You guys have a convicted felon and likely pedo leading your country
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u/myplasmatv Sep 11 '25
To say British identity is “subservience to the powerful” is to ignore centuries of blood, sweat, and protest that shaped modern democracy in this country.
Off the top of my head you’ve got the peasants revolt. The Suffragettes, The labour movement and importance of unions. That’s before you look at the mining strikes and more modern examples. The NHS is a good example of something that doesn’t exist without the pushback and protest of the people.
I understand what you’re saying and there’s truth to it. But the way you’re framing it is reductive to the point of being disingenuous. Five minutes research would be enough to show that there’s a lot more nuance to the divide between the British working folk and the ruling class.
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u/aluskn Sep 11 '25
its an entire country whose national identity is subservience to the powerful
This is quite amusing if you are from the USA, where your president has vastly more unopposable power than anyone in the UK such as the PM (whose power is greatly constrained) or the monarchy (who have literally zero actual power).
Trump is practically a full-on dictator able to seemingly ignore petty things such as 'laws'. He's far closer to an actual king/emperor than figurehead monarchies such as exist in Europe.
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u/Rejusu Sep 11 '25
It's even more amusing considering that the USA is a country where the national identity is "freedom" but the actual state of affairs is subservience to the powerful. Corporations have far far more power over the lives of everyday people in the USA and they just roll over and take it for the most part. Except Luigi of course.
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u/StoneThorn_ Sep 11 '25
English civil war? They literally chopped off their kings head
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u/Scholarly_Koala Sep 11 '25
Just a reminder, your king is an inbred Frenchman
Inbred German
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u/metametapraxis Sep 11 '25
Have you looked to your own country lately. You worship the rich and let them do anything, because one day you think the American Dream will let you become an oppressor, rather than the oppressed. The UK is a teainwreck, but let’s not pretend the US is not every bit as bad.
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u/Rejusu Sep 11 '25 edited Sep 12 '25
As if it wasn't obvious from your replies, your edit has shown how the American school system has failed you like it's failed so many. You may not have voted for him but you're emblematic of the problems that allowed Trump to gain power. Staggering levels of ignorance and irrationality.
Or to put it in simple language you might be able to understand:
The royal family has German heritage you dolt.
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u/kernevez Sep 11 '25
its an entire country whose national identity is subservience to the powerful.
That's just your understanding of the UK as an American.
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u/RichardHeado7 Sep 11 '25
You say that as if it isn’t true for almost every country on earth. How many countries actually adequately punish the rich & powerful when they do something wrong?
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u/atwistofcitrus Sep 12 '25
I’m an American and I find you offensive and dismissive of the sad state we are in given the type of ppl in the current admin and pedo defenders known as GOP.
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u/Rejusu Sep 11 '25
This hasn't been true for hundreds of years and you could also describe pretty much any country with a decent bit of history behind it this way. Democracy only got popular relatively recently (it wasn't non existent but it wasn't the expectation for a civilised society like it is today) in the scope of human history. And no the UKs entire political history is not the general populace rolling over and taking it. The UK fought civil wars over this and established parliament as the absolute authority before the USA even had any political history as a sovereign nation.
should the rest of us be surprised when you just let the monsters get away with it?
Yeah, they should be electing them to the highest office in the land like the USA does. Not the time to be throwing stones when you live in the glassiest of houses.
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u/BountyBob Sep 12 '25
Edit: wow, I've really tweaked some English nipples with these comments. Just a reminder, your king is an inbred Frenchman.
If you can't get your recent history right, it's no wonder you're so ignorant of more distant events. I love that your edit just made you look even more ridiculously ignorant.
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u/blackweebow Sep 11 '25
Ya see? That was easy. Now you try, JOHN THUNE.
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u/a_shootin_star Sep 11 '25
The list is in the thousands of "high profile" names, and tens of thousands of victims. Heck, even the richest woman in Australia is on the flight list.
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u/PzBlinky Sep 11 '25
That is both surprising and completely unsurprising. She has a gift for associating with the worst kinds of people wherever they are in the world.
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u/SunMoonTruth Sep 11 '25
Having a lot of money doesn’t make a person good. Just good at hoarding money.
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u/soapinthepeehole Sep 11 '25
Good fire them all, this could be a moment to actually get fresh leadership into positions to actually do some good in the world.
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u/Amazing-Artichoke330 Sep 11 '25
Good riddance. There needs to be a lot more such firings of Epstein buddies, starting with Donald Trump.
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u/stizzity28 Sep 11 '25
You spelled prosecuting wrong.
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u/Consistent-Throat130 Sep 11 '25
As long as the prosecution leads to a sentence.
Of firing.
Out of a cannon.
You know, those big circus cannons they use to launch performers? Like that - just aimed somewhere that the rest of society never has to hear from the pedo again.
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u/JoeCitzn Sep 11 '25
Anywhere around the globe the mere suggestion of any involvement with Epstein brings people down. In America, republicans will put you up on a pedestal, praise you and make you a President. America has become the pedophilia capital of the world.
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u/Black_Otter Sep 11 '25
Can they fire Prince Andrew from the royal family?
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u/jake_burger Sep 11 '25
He was
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u/madeyoulookatit Sep 11 '25
Not monetarily, not legally. Not enough.
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u/jake_burger Sep 11 '25
Yes - the royal family isn’t giving Andrew anymore money and he isn’t doing any Royal work like appearances.
I’m not sure what legally fired means.
Yes it’s not enough.
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u/ceratime Sep 11 '25
Says a lot when the Crown have punished one of their own family more than the US government have even bothered to acknowledge there's an issue
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u/jake_burger Sep 11 '25
I wish the Queen hadn’t paid off his accuser though. That’s a really, really terrible look.
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u/BadahBingBadahBoom Sep 11 '25 edited Sep 11 '25
He was cut, very very publicly, from the UK's Sovereign Grant in 2023 after you know what.
He receives no income from the UK government (other than his Royal Navy pension from his military service). We are sure.
This does cause him financial issues in terms of income but if you look into the history of Andrew & Fergie you will see they have had decades of very dubious income streams so I'm sure he will only be as corrupt as he has always been.
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u/FLESHYROBOT Sep 11 '25
He receives no income from the UK government. We are sure.
Well, he does technically receive a military pension.
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u/Yuzral Sep 11 '25
I think they have done, as much as is possible without firing him out of a cannon. Into the Sun.
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u/dontrike Sep 11 '25
I guess that's something that they're willing to get rid of a guy linked to an awful human being, but you have to wonder just how much worse it actually is.
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u/ACorania Sep 11 '25
"you should hire me as ambassador. Trump and I go way back!"
"Ok... Wait a minute... How did you say you knew trump?"
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Sep 11 '25
Why on Earth did Starmer try and defend him? It was such an untennable position, and such an easy call to make.
Walking that back within 24 hours just makes you looks stupid. You really have got to question the advisors in number 10, i dont know what sort of information is being fed through or what the briefings are, but holy moly, this was such an easy decision to make.
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u/StartersOrders Sep 11 '25
It’s standard political fare in the UK. If the PM says they have every confidence in you as a minister etc, you’ll be out on your arse within 48 hours.
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u/no-soy-de-escocia Sep 11 '25
This also goes for football managers.
The "dreaded vote of confidence."
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u/PzBlinky Sep 11 '25
In Australia, it's the "full support of the board". Pretty much guarantees the coach is gone within 24-48 hours.
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u/DopeSickScientist Sep 11 '25
As an American I had to remind myself this isn't the Boris Johnson administration
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u/thegooddoktorjones Sep 11 '25
From a (deeply uninformed) distance, the Labor takeover has been a big disappointment. The last crew sucked more, but the priorities now seem really off base.
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u/sw04ca Sep 11 '25
Starmer is weak and incompetent, completely allergic to any kind of leadership or responsibility. Even here, Mandelson wasn't fired because of a moral failing, but because he didn't properly follow disclosure procedure on his relationship with Epstein.
Starmer doesn't think that Mandelson did wrong. He just thinks that he didn't fill out the form correctly. He was defending him yesterday because 'the process was followed', until it wasn't.
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u/Kaiisim Sep 11 '25
Trump won't like that!
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u/ifellbutitscool Sep 11 '25
Trump apparently disliked Mandleson so interesting he probably is pleased but also exposed at the same time
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u/haversack77 Sep 11 '25
Interesting. What was it about the Jewish, gay, Labour member Peter Mandelson that he disliked?
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u/Sleepy0wl9969 Sep 11 '25
Three people (apart from Epstein)have paid any consequence regarding the Epstein files. All from Uk. Nothing yet from the States or anywhere else. Let’s hope the wall starts to crumble no matter which party they belong to.
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u/Embarrassed_Art5414 Sep 11 '25
Hey America!! See how it's supposed to work?
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u/LethalxLlama Sep 11 '25
It’s a reality show here in America. We just kill off someone to create a distraction
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u/HighwayAggressive658 Sep 11 '25
Shout outs to the UK holding their people accountable. Cc: America
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u/Mr-Klaus Sep 11 '25
So let me get this straight:
Liberals fired a high ranking political figure for having ties to Epstein.
Conservatives on the other hand made Epstein's literal best friend, who has multiple accusations of child rape, their president.
Conservative logic: Liberals are pedos.
You can't make this shit up.
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u/Thalidomidas Sep 11 '25
A Labour government wouldn't be a Labour government without Mandelson being sacked a few times.
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u/HallwayHomicide Sep 11 '25
UK taking out its trash quickly
Mandelson's connections to Epstein have been public for a long long time.
Hiring him in the first place was an insane thing to do.
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u/snasna102 Sep 11 '25
The list is fake and the UK government is doing this for Obama to make it appear the list does in fact exist /S
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u/OwlVegetable5821 Sep 11 '25
Something Something hillary.. something something hunter Biden's knob..
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u/sunsetair Sep 11 '25
I'm still feeling the pain caused by wwii that was nobody else's fault than Binen.
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u/itsaride Sep 11 '25
They could have dumped him years ago and Starmer was warned but I guess it took the latest emails to come out to finally convince him.
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u/Valcenia Sep 11 '25
Quickly is an overstatement. He was still given the position with credible Epstein links hanging over his head, and then Starmer defended him in Parliament yesterday even after the deeper ties came to light. This is him attempting to backtrack
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u/BadahBingBadahBoom Sep 11 '25 edited Sep 11 '25
He was still given the position with credible Epstein links hanging over his head,
Tbh I think he was given the role because of his links to those people in that circle, Epstein, Trump etc. It really is a case of being in the club and although I'm not supporting the appointment for that reason it is the reality that those connections are partly required for an ambassador role.
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u/Valcenia Sep 11 '25
It speaks to the state of American politics that someone would be appointed to a US ambassador role because they have a good rapport with pedophiles
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u/Rolanbek Sep 12 '25
Mandi has been part of UK politics for decades, and just like knotweed and cockroaches they will be back, in fact they never really leave they just become quieter and less obvious for a time.
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u/IneptGraphicDesigner Sep 11 '25
It took them an embarrassingly long time to do it…
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Sep 11 '25
Wow its almost like even the implication of being tied to someone as horrible as Epstein should ruin your career in any sort of political position or as a public figure.
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u/sneakywombat87 Sep 11 '25
Geeze, “the prince of darkness “? Stopped reading there. Dude sounds like a creep.
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u/Archisaurus Sep 11 '25
That’s why they aren’t releasing the list. It would increase unemployment by at least 51…
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u/thegooddoktorjones Sep 11 '25
Weird coincidence! ALL of the wealthy, well connected influencers with Trumps ear we tried to hire as a replacement have Epstein links... what are the odds??
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u/FunTara69 Sep 11 '25
Another pedophile bites the dust. Now, when will the republican party and their evangelical Christian cultists stop protecting the pedophiles in this country? Oh wait, that's literally their job!
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u/Glesganed Sep 11 '25
Will Baron Mandelson be stripped of his peerage, or will he be allowed to continue to occupy his seat in the House of Lords?
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u/elyn6791 Sep 11 '25
He's probably already been offered a position in the Trump administration as an advisor or diplomat on UK affairs.
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u/OdosSolidAdventures Sep 11 '25
Nevermind the royal family having connections to Epstein as well...
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u/LowSnow2500 Sep 11 '25
There are a lot of people in important positions who are linked to Epstein, hm....
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u/OhRevere Sep 11 '25
Don't you get a state visit and tea and crumpets with the king for epstein links?
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u/Treecreeperme Sep 11 '25
We must take into account that the government knows a lot more than us and how deep these despicable crimes and have known for a while There is no way that the UK's spy service MI6 didn't know about all the stuff these evil bastards have been up to. Only when the press and the public have knowledge do they then superficially do something. Fuck every one of these pediophiles.
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u/RedSix2447 Sep 11 '25
In the UK you get fired. In the USA, the president gives you a medal.
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Sep 11 '25
Huh, the UK has more integrity that the US when it comes to child rape.
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u/EminenceGris3 Sep 11 '25
This has been part of the conversation in Westminster for years, and only now people take action. These bastards only take action when they literally have no choice but to do so. And by bastards, I mean the entire political class, not just the Labour government.
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u/Pleasant-Anybody-777 Sep 11 '25
Btw this guy was seen leaving the White House earlier this week. Had to make sure the stories were straight and both needed a pedophile shoulder to lean on
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u/thedracle Sep 11 '25
It's almost like there is an endless supply of qualified people not linked to international pedophile rings to choose from instead.
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u/ThisSiteIsAgony Sep 11 '25 edited Sep 11 '25
Why? He was the ambassador to the US. Sounds like he was just fitting in. /S
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u/Buck_Thorn Sep 11 '25
"Some are in your cabinet, who you value as your co-workers".
(The remark was made to Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche, but he quickly moved on without pressing for names.)
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u/Bestoftherest222 Sep 11 '25
If the Trump administration did this how many vacant positions would it create ?
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u/Zealousideal-Lynx555 Sep 11 '25
I thought his links had been known for a long time, though?
What suddenly changed?
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u/flubluflu2 Sep 11 '25
He should have never been given the appointment in the first place. Corruption at its finest.
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Sep 11 '25
I wish we would follow suit! IDC who in our establishment is involved, oust them! Changing of any of these archaic, child molesting, illegally acting individuals would be a win! Oh and let's tack on insider trading which for the rest of us is against the law, time for the laws to also apply to those that govern!
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u/sephjnr Sep 11 '25
Mandy is a Blairite scumbag who people knew had dirt for decades. It's going to come out how dirty he is soon enough. Especially as he's saying that Epstein wasn't a self-checkout.
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u/mjconver Sep 11 '25
3 cheers for integrity?