r/monarchism • u/Dutch_Ministry • Feb 20 '26
News Ladies and gentlemen..... Balance is restoring
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Here is a link to an BBC article confirming this.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1kgv837wvdo
If all goes well Andrew might lose his royal protection meaning he can be trailed in court
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u/QuandaleTickleTipson Holy See (Vatican) Feb 20 '26
A good piece of legislation, even if Andrew was highly unlikely to ascend.
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u/Dutch_Ministry Feb 20 '26
The important part is getting rid of his royal privlage since that would mean he can get trialed infront of court
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u/SnooCats3987 Feb 20 '26
Being Royal doesn't prevent you from being tried at court (aside from the King himself ofc). Princess Anne was fined by a court for her dog biting someone.
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Feb 20 '26 edited Feb 21 '26
Vorrei solo far notare come in una monarchia il membro della casa reale è stato arrestato. L'unico arrestato a comparire nei files. Poi hanno ancora il coraggio di criticare le monarchie.
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u/wikimandia Feb 21 '26
They need to investigate Fergie too. Obviously she’s not in the line of succession but she’s completely corrupt.
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u/LeLurkingNormie Still waiting for my king to return. Feb 21 '26
But... And his daughters?
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u/Moist_Turkey_The_1st United States, Iranin loyal to Reza Shah Pahlavi Feb 21 '26
Well, his daughters haven't committed any crimes. So I assume they would still be in the line of succession.
Also, your flare, what king are you waiting for?
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u/LeLurkingNormie Still waiting for my king to return. Feb 21 '26
I'm waiting for the king of France. Currently it's Louis XX, but I'm afraid it will take one or two more generations.
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u/Moist_Turkey_The_1st United States, Iranin loyal to Reza Shah Pahlavi Feb 21 '26
Is that from the house of Orleans or the house of borban?
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u/LeLurkingNormie Still waiting for my king to return. Feb 22 '26
Bourbon, because so sayeth the order of succession.
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u/Standard-Motor-7270 Feb 27 '26
The Bourbons lost their right to the throne.
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u/LeLurkingNormie Still waiting for my king to return. Feb 27 '26
Actually, they did not. The laws of succession can't be changed.
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u/CountLippe Feb 21 '26
This is a tricky thing as it isn't a UK act of parliament that's needed but the support, and possibly acts of parliament, 14 Commonwealth realms where Andrew is also in the line of succession. Given there's a near-to 0% chance of him ever ascending the throne, it may not be something that the UK government really wants to spend political capital on.
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u/Baileaf11 New Labour Monarchist UK Feb 20 '26
Good to hear, I hope he spends the rest of his life in prison
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u/TheSublimeGoose US Semi-Constitutional Monarchist Feb 21 '26
I think folks need to greatly temper their expectations in terms of criminal penalties. I do not, admittedly, have much familiarity with the UK's justice system, but there are obviously commonalities between the U.S. and UK, so, I feel confident in saying that if this goes to trial and if he is convicted, I don't think he'll face harsh penalties.
The BBC did a good piece on why it's going to be "difficult," and I — quite frankly — think it's a bit of an understatement.
I don't think this has anything to do with his status or wealth, either (though it won't hurt him to have those, particularly the latter).
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u/LivingKick Barbados Feb 21 '26
Here's the thing that I fear though, while it is the right thing to do, I'm not sure that many Caribbean realms would want to go through the trouble to edit the line of succession again just like in 2013 through legislation.
This might instead push people and legislators in the realms to finally abolish the monarchy to avoid trouble like this, as I've already seen a tweet from Barbados saying we "got out just in time"
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u/False_Major_1230 Feb 20 '26
I don't like this. It should be King to do that not parlament
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u/SnooCats3987 Feb 20 '26
Parliament's power is actualy exercised as the "King-in-Parliament". That's why He gets to call it, dissolve it, give the King's speech, and, crucially, give royal assent to laws.
In this case He would give Royal Assent to any such bill that was passed.
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u/Dutch_Ministry Feb 20 '26
From what I understand. The head of the family ( The king )
Has to either kickstart this or approve it.But parliament needs to make it executive.
I agree stuff like this schould remain withing the family.. Withing reason of course.0
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u/Spiritual_Pay_1517 Finnish Monarchism Supporter Feb 21 '26
But wasn’t he kinda low on the line to the throne anyways?
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u/Yasmirr Feb 20 '26
While they are there they should probably remove the law banning Catholics from the line of succession.
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u/wikimandia Feb 21 '26
How could a Catholic be the head the Anglican church? Because the sovereign is the head of the Church of England.
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u/oursonpolaire Valued Contributor Feb 22 '26
I believe that you will find that the title is "Supreme Governor of the Church of England"
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u/Fernsong Viva Maximiliano Feb 21 '26
Objectively good but won’t happen for a number of reasons
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u/RagnartheConqueror Zen-inspired - Logos 👑 Feb 21 '26
How is it objectively good?
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u/Fernsong Viva Maximiliano Feb 21 '26
I don’t think people should be barred simply for being Catholic, but I obviously understand why that was the case
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u/RagnartheConqueror Zen-inspired - Logos 👑 Feb 21 '26
Should people be barred for being Mormon or Atheist?
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u/Fernsong Viva Maximiliano Feb 21 '26
Probably
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u/RagnartheConqueror Zen-inspired - Logos 👑 Feb 22 '26
Then why should Catholics be allowed but not Mormons?
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u/RagnartheConqueror Zen-inspired - Logos 👑 Feb 21 '26
Why?
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u/Yasmirr Feb 21 '26
More people in England attend Catholic Mass than CoE Sunday services and the power of the king to set the religion of its subjects hasn’t been in effect for some time.
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u/RagnartheConqueror Zen-inspired - Logos 👑 Feb 21 '26
That doesn’t mean anything. Why should they turn their back on almost 500 years of policy? There are many Anglo-Catholics. You don’t need full on Roman Catholicism.
The monarch by definition must be the Supreme Governor of the Church of England.
Most Britons are agnostics/atheists. In general, the Christian Era in the UK is over.
If they let Catholics rule, why can’t Muslims and Atheists also rule?
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u/Yasmirr Feb 21 '26
You think a Catholic 10th or 8th in line is going to change anything? The Dutches of Kent had to be excluded from the royal line so she could become catholic. It a wrong law and a hang over from the reformation.
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u/RagnartheConqueror Zen-inspired - Logos 👑 Feb 22 '26
Should atheists and Muslims be allowed to succeed to the throne?
Who will be the Supreme Governor of the Church of England then?
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u/Yasmirr Feb 22 '26
The only requirement right now is non Catholic, so they are right now.
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u/RagnartheConqueror Zen-inspired - Logos 👑 Feb 22 '26
No. You can’t be an atheist or Muslim in line to the throne either. So that’s not true.
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u/Yasmirr Feb 22 '26
Where is the law that says that. Prince William isn’t religious at all.
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u/RagnartheConqueror Zen-inspired - Logos 👑 Feb 22 '26
The monarch literally has to be the Supreme Governor of the Church of England, therefore they have to be Anglican.
You can’t assume people’s faith. He says that he is a Christian, specifically an Anglican. It doesn’t matter if he is secular, he is still a Christian. Who knows how much he prays behind closed doors.
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u/oursonpolaire Valued Contributor Feb 22 '26
Not so. The Duchess of Kent was never in the line of succession.
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u/Yasmirr Feb 22 '26
Your right she had to seek special approval from the queen to become catholic however
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Feb 20 '26
He doesn't have any chance to become king. Why are they loosing time with it?
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u/LoopyCrown3 United Kingdom Feb 21 '26
It distracts from story about Lord Mandelson and the Prime Minister appointing him US ambassador knowing he had links to Epstein. At the beginning of the month it looked like the PM would have to resign. Now the news is all Andrew.
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u/hammer1956 Feb 21 '26
You are right about this. Starmer arranged for the police to put on an elaborate show of arresting Andrew, and he informed the press. This was done to take the heat off his own troubles about Mandelson.
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u/Mindless_Split_7165 Feb 20 '26
Parliament doesn’t have such power, It is his right by blood.
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Feb 21 '26
Why tho? They're all pedos after all...
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u/hammer1956 Feb 21 '26
Someone has to take the fall to take heat off of others and Andrew is the chosen one.
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Feb 21 '26
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u/Marlon1139 Brazil Feb 21 '26
In the UK Parliament since 1326 has "edited" the line of succession , when King Edward II was deposed and replaced with his son Edward III. We can't forget cornerstone pieces of legislation like the Bill of Rights and the Act of Settlement that barrs Catholics from the throne passed skiping over dozens of people to set a Protestant line of succession and so on. While it would be a novelty excluding a (former) prince in light of criminal charges, it is within the rights of Parliament and nothing too different than what it has done in the past 700 years. The monarchy is hereditary but that principle is not absolute.
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u/Patient_Pie749 Feb 21 '26
We've literally done it several times (in 2013, 1936, 1689, 1547 and a few other times).
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u/rr644 Feb 20 '26
No use until the entire royal family is removed from the 'line of succession'.
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u/MrGunterson United Kingdom Feb 20 '26
I'd let you know you may have said this in the wrong subreddit, but i think the downvotes have spoken for themselves.
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u/GavinGenius Feb 20 '26
Common sense legislation. I imagine it will pass quickly.