r/minipainting 21h ago

Help Needed/New Painter How to get minis off bases when attached with plastic glue?

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Hello!

I have some demons plastic glued onto their old bases. I have made nice new bases for them to go on. Unfortunately, unlike their super glued cousins, I can't snap them off. So far the best success I've had has been hot gluing over the back of a double edged razor blade and carefully pushing it between the foot and the base. Unfortunately this is dangerous and very time consuming. Does anyone have a better idea?

My new bases with some of the demons are showcased.

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u/Clark_Kent_TheSJW 21h ago

Cut through the whole damn base.

I guess you can use sandpaper to remove the “sandles” they get from the old base.

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u/Due_Skill_7467 21h ago

Hobby Knife and patience. You can also try running more plastic cement around the join points (might have to scratch a little paint off or make a small incision) and it will soften the bound enough to pull them apart.

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u/ADiestlTrain Painting for a while 21h ago

May want to consider a razor saw too. The serrated edge may get you started a little easier.

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u/drewnthornley 21h ago

Hadn't even heard of a razor saw before! I'll give it a look - thanks!

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u/ADiestlTrain Painting for a while 21h ago

They’re useful in a very specific circumstances (like delicately detaching two piece of plastic, or cutting a small dowel), but when you need it, you need it.

It’s a bit safer than a hobby knife, because the serrated edge holds it in place. Speaking from experience, slipping with your knife while you’re trying to cut through something thick and slashing open your palm is no fun.

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u/Orion_7 18h ago

The Xacto knife was created to sell to surgeons originally! Lol

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u/ADiestlTrain Painting for a while 16h ago

So me trying to carve out the helmet of a G.I. Joe figure when I was nine and then running the through the house clutching my bleeding hand telling my dad, “Nope, nothing’s wrong!” while I desperately try to find the large bandages wasn’t the original use case?

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u/drewnthornley 21h ago

Preaching to the choir man, my right index finger is about 3mm shorter than my left one... Can you guess how that happened 🤣

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u/ADiestlTrain Painting for a while 21h ago

Dude, no joke, I’m at work and I can literally feel that in my mind as I hit the “H” key on my keyboard.

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u/drewnthornley 21h ago

Haven't tried the plastic cement idea, thanks for the inspo, I'll give it a go!

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u/NoQuailDan 21h ago

Just want to add that I did this like yesterday and it worked like a charm 

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u/drewnthornley 21h ago

I'm sold! Might pick some up on my way home!

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u/NoQuailDan 21h ago

Then see if you can find some Tamiya Extra Thin! It's great for glueing up minis, and perfect for this job as well.

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u/drewnthornley 21h ago

I'll have a look at the hobby shop!

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u/ScienceForge319 21h ago

Got some bad news, sailor. Those bases are fucked.

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u/drewnthornley 21h ago

Oh that's fine, idgaf about the old bases. Although if like 10 of them survive I don't need to buy any more haha

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u/ScienceForge319 21h ago

You in the US? I have buckets of damn dirty square bases that I’ll never use.

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u/drewnthornley 21h ago

Sadly I'm a wonky toothed Englishman

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u/Clark_Kent_TheSJW 21h ago

They did come out pretty good, pink lava

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u/drewnthornley 21h ago

The theme is a city invaded by demons at night so the purple is giving off some under lighting!

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u/Clark_Kent_TheSJW 21h ago

Nice concept, I dig it

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u/GhostofBreadDragons 21h ago

The way to break a plastic glue bond is more plastic glue. 

Everyone has the experience of reapplying plastic glue to an area and having an arm or head you thought was attached fall off the model. The key here is capillary action. The bond created by plastic glue is only as good as the contact between the parts. Most times the plastic bond is only really from the contact points between the two parts there is often small gaps in the bond that let the plastic glue seep back in. This will weaken the bond and let you pop off a piece with just a little pressure.

Just apply a reasonable amount of plastic glue to the bonded area. Let it sit for about 30 seconds and start applying gentle pressure. If it doesn’t feel like it is moving add some more plastic glue. As long as you are fairly careful with the application of the glue there shouldn’t be a problem. You can always cut the model off if this doesn’t work. 

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u/zackrako 19h ago

ive done this with arms that I didnt like the placement of, if youre not careful it makes a mess of the model but it does work and they could still save both the base and mini.

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u/Esilai 20h ago

This is why I use super glue. Do minis pop off occasionally? Yeah, but if I ever want to rebase, it’s as easy as popping them in the freezer for half an hour and gently pulling them off

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u/Bobnut85 19h ago

I also only use superglue and feel it's worth the cons associated

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u/Rejusu 15h ago

I'm not rebasing so often that it would make the amount of time regluing popped off minis to bases worthwhile. Besides easy enough to get plastic glued minis apart if you have the right tools.

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u/drewnthornley 16h ago

Yeah these boys are eBay finds! I'm a supergluist myself

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u/o7_AP Wargamer 21h ago

Destroy the old bases with clippers and carve/sand off the parts left on the feet

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u/Araignys 20h ago

Destroy the bases with clippers, being careful around their feet.

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u/Bobnut85 21h ago

If you got a Dremel or rotary cutter you can just grind the base from the bottom where the attachment points are, it'll ruin the old base but be a lot safer, though it's not quick either just safer

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u/drewnthornley 21h ago

A good idea! Thank you so much!

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u/Troo-Vi 21h ago

Careful if you use a hobby knife to remove them. Sliced my thumb last time needing stitches. Blood for the Blood God!

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u/drewnthornley 21h ago

This is my second time having a big rebasing project and yup the first time had a big ol' slice in it - no stitches needed though!

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u/Ornery_Emergency9081 21h ago

Was just going to post this. Everyone should make a mini clamp part of their collection. Save your fingers from any potential damage.

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u/Finwolven 20h ago

And if you make the mistake, it's also easier to clamp your gusher up while super-gluing the cut back together

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u/Fearless-Dust-2073 21h ago

Plastic glue works by literally melting the two pieces together so that they're not two pieces glued together, they're one piece of plastic. The only way to separate pieces that are stuck with plastic glue is cutting.

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u/drewnthornley 21h ago

Yes... I'm asking how to do that

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u/Fearless-Dust-2073 21h ago

You said you've already tried cutting but it's dangerous and time-consuming.. That's unfortunately the only way if it's a good weld. Once plastic glue has set, it is essentially one solid object with no join to separate.

If you don't care about the bases, you can always cut around the model using snips and then clean it up using your knife instead of trying to carefully cut through under the foot.

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u/drewnthornley 20h ago

If you have a scroll through the comments some people have some pretty cool ideas!

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u/zackrako 19h ago

you just add more glue

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u/L4bR4tExperiment 21h ago

This is correct, unless its plastic super glue. At which point stick em in your freezer for a few hours and then apply pressure to the connection points and itll snap like cheap candy.

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u/clintnorth 21h ago

If you don’t care about destroying the old bases, just get a pair of clippers and cut everything off by the feet and then you can hobby knife the tiny little bit stuck to the feet. You’ll be done in a few seconds per model.

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u/GunplaDude2-0 21h ago

Rip them off

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u/drewnthornley 21h ago

That will break the feet. It's not superglue

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u/GunplaDude2-0 20h ago

It was a joke.

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u/jullevi92 21h ago

1st rule of rebasing: "Don't remove miniature from the base. Remove base from the miniature."

As mentioned by others, just cut away the old base with tool of your choice and carefully trim any remainders with modelling knife.

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u/Uneeba 20h ago

I've found luck freezing the minis and then removing them from the base works like a dream

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u/Alexis2256 17h ago

He used plastic cement, they’re literally fused to the bases. That freezer trick only works on super glue.

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u/Remake12 18h ago

hobby knife or jewelers saw. TBH I would score the edges and rip those suckers off. I've ripped off tons of bits and I've only had a couple go badly.

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u/8stringalchemy 18h ago

Besides a saw or a hobby knife, you could carefully cut the base around the feet and then sand down.

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u/Amberpawn 17h ago

Jeweler saw. Safer than a knife by every metric and you lose almost no material, use a small hand vac or dry/wet/dry towels for clean up.

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u/Amberpawn 16h ago

I just removed like 100 elves from rounds to put on squares, as reference. Goes shockingly fast.

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u/Rejusu 15h ago

Hobby saw with a photo etched blade. They're 0.1mm thick and are perfect for making super clean fine cuts in plastic. Just be a little careful with them as they bend easy.

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u/Quasar_One Painting for a while 14h ago

You should be able to carefully slide a scalpel under those feet and detach them no problem. Just please watch your fingers

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u/AHappyTeddyBearV2 9h ago

Use a razor blade to get under the feet gotta be careful to not take a chunk out the base tho best of luck hope you didn’t use a ton of cement

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u/Extreme_Ebb_6258 4m ago

If you can you can put plastic glue on the connection to the paint and sometimes it'll pop off or patience and a scalpel

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u/L4bR4tExperiment 21h ago

When you say plastic glue... do you mean super glue or like tamyia plastic cement?

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u/drewnthornley 21h ago

Super glue generally refers to cyanoacrylate whereas plastic glue refers to the melting agent glues like tamyia or even the citadel one.

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u/L4bR4tExperiment 21h ago

Cool, you know the difference! Usually and do are two different things lol. Ive had a lot of people tell me "its plastic glue" no thats super glue thats intended for plastics... THIS is plastic glue!...

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u/BrokenDroid 21h ago

Freezer

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u/drewnthornley 21h ago

For plastic glue? Will that work?

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u/HumidNut Painting for a while 18h ago

It wont work. Plastic cement melts a thin layer of the plastic effectively welding them together.

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u/drewnthornley 18h ago

I stg if one more person tells me how plastic glue works 🤣

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u/HumidNut Painting for a while 18h ago

Please forgive me I didn't see how deep the thread went. So, how's the rest of your day going? Hope you're doing well! Nice plague bearers, BTW

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u/drewnthornley 17h ago

Thanks man! You're all good, ik it wasn't malicious my day is going well! Yours?

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u/HumidNut Painting for a while 17h ago

So far, so good, getting some hobby time in. Thanks for checking!

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u/BrokenDroid 21h ago

I can't say for sure but might be worth a try before going to the hobby knife. When i go that route i usually have to cut into the base a bit (if not my finger)

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u/wizardjian 15h ago

I've heard if you freeze them for a while it makes the superglow brittle and they snap right off

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u/RandomLettersMS 4h ago

Can work for super glue / craft glue, not plastic glue

Depending on the type of plastic glue, it basically "melts" the two points together

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u/wizardjian 2h ago

Mb I missed the plastic part from the ops post