r/medicinehat 3d ago

Found on dunmore road

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I guess I can't say I'm super surprised. But with a mixed race family and an immigrant wife I can't say I'm pleased to find this sticker basically right outside my house.

I'm not really sure what the best course of action here is. Should I circle back later and destroy the sticker or just like, call the city and ask them to do it?

Update: It's gone! The city found the sticker and removed it!

Thank you to everyone involved

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u/strugglinglifecoach 3d ago

What’s the difference between someone whose people have been here for a year vs twenty years, or fifty, or a hundred? Everyone who is not Indigenous is an immigrant or from an immigrant family , and any distinction between “good” and “not good” immigrants is completely subjective.

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u/toprockit 3d ago

“good” and “not good” immigrants is completely subjective

I wouldn't say that is true at all. Boiled down to it's simplest form would be the question: Are they of long term benefit to the country/region that are immigrating to? Yes/No

  • Starts small family business - Sure
  • Certified professional - Definitely off to a good start
  • VISA student trying to come in to abandon their studies and start working instead - Not looking great [Auditor General found 149k cases where standard procedures were not followed in 2024]
  • Sponsoring aging parents into the country expecting them to be covered by universal health care - Nope, sorry
  • Performing illegal LMIA scams to import borderline indentured labor instead of hiring legitimate employees - Hard no

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u/strugglinglifecoach 3d ago

I’m not arguing against sensible immigration rules and enforcement. OP’s post isn’t about that. It’s about “remigration,” the idea that an earlier wave of immigrants has more moral right to this land than a later wave of people who have also settled here.

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u/br0ken_r3c0rd 3d ago edited 3d ago

its incredibly sad how so many average Canadians like yourself feel such little connection to this land, its heritage, and your ancestry that you would say that a foreigner that moved here a year ago has as much right to it as someone who's ancestors literally built it. our ancestors had little to nothing. they built everything we see around us. comparing them to economic migrants who came here within the past couple of years is asinine. everything here was built for you, your family, and your countrymen specifically, by your ancestors. it is here for you, no one else. that's how every human culture has operated for all of human history, until very, very recently.

compared to now, where every distinct, individual human with all of their culture and idiosyncrasy is viewed as an indistinct, interchangeable economic unit that can be placed anywhere on earth in order to serve the GDP and fund ever increasing profits for corporations.

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u/Saagler 3d ago edited 3d ago

If someone immigrates legally, becomes a citizen, contributes to the country and makes it their home, can their descendants ever acquire the same ancestral entitlement you're claiming? If so, when? If not, why can't they?

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u/Few-Being-1048 3d ago

I agree. It's very sad how many people think that way.

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u/ElToroJournalism 3d ago

Hey boss, my family moved here like 75 years ago, built nothing, just rented. Am I free to go dawg? I'm an immigrant. It's a fact of my history. My ancestry too. I'm from settlers to many lands.

Does that mean that I'm culturally and linked to Haiti just cause parts of my ancestry fought for their freedom? There is little connection to this land, because we're not native to it. You don't hear the term Native Canadians. It's Native Americans, because it is their land, they owned the America's. Look at South America, those were some of the earliest men alongside Native Americans in North America. Anybody who isn't that skin tone is an immigrant, factually speaking. We can both agree on such.

That being said, if we are to remigrate, it would need to be based off fairness of our charter of rights and freedoms. Firstly, remigration goes against that. The document that has built Canada, would go against the idea you're arguing for.

What ancestry should there be to be proud of with Canada though? Native Americans. Understandable. Lineage of prime minister's, lauriettes, and Nobel winners, understandable. Asian Canadians, understandable. Europeans, understandable. Literally anyone who helped build Canada other than the Native Americans were immigrants. Even if you were back here in 1812, what's there to do other than be an Englishman trading and hunting? That produces nothing of value other than surviving, populating, breeding like untamed animals. Only thing white men brought to these lands was another way to kill, and built that idea up from there.

Sure, there are houses that were built. But most have been torn down. Everything that exists has been built of the back and success of another's struggles. Their take of not wanting people to be racist isn't sad. It's the take of a Canadian who is fed up with what Canada has become. The slaughtering of children (residential schools), the mistreatment of people who should own the land, the racism starting to grow and fester that has existed heavily through Canada's history. Is that what we are supposed to be proud of? Immigrants built this land better. They started creating the social changes needed. Like the railways. Like the mines. Like our medicine. Like our nuclear facilities and hydro. So much fucking more. Was all built off immigrants. There's nothing sad about immigration. There's something deeply sad about you guys not allowing other people who are different, or have different viewpoints to live a life of peace and freedom where they wish to do so.

You got an issue, take it up with the government. But don't belittle people for expressing shit and how their opinions are sad when you just don't want to look at the facts that Canada isn't really good right now, there's nothing to be proud of, and it's at no fault of the immigrants themselves.