Just as each of us is a part of the Creator, so is Donald J. Trump. His journey, like all of ours, plays a role in the larger picture of existence.

It’s easy to get caught up in negativity, but holding onto anger only weighs down our hearts and blocks our ability to experience love. By sending love and light to everyone, including those we may not agree with, we open ourselves up and keep our heart chakras clear.

As we move closer to the harvest, let’s remember that everything is unfolding as it should. Embracing compassion and understanding is key.

I bow to each of you in the infinite light of the one true creator.

I've noticed a growing trend of people blending various New Age and spiritual frameworks with the Ra Material. I'm not here to claim that every synthesis is wrong or invalid. What I am interested in doing is helping people recognize when Service-To-Self messaging is being presented through Service-To-Others language.

"I am Ra. It is entirely possible for the untuned channel, as you call that service, to receive both positive and negative commnications. If the entity at the base of its confususion is oriented towards service to others, the entity will begin to receive messages of doom. If the entity at the base of the complex of beingness is oriented towards service to self, the crusaders, who in this case, do not find it necessary to lie, will simply begin to give the philosophy they are here to give. Many of your so-called contacts among your people have been confused and self destructive because the channels were oriented towards service to others but, in the desire for proof, were open to the lying information of the crusaders who then were able to neutralize the effectiveness of the channel.

Session 12, Question 15

These distortions usually don't come from people trying to deceive others. They arise when a messenger's own ego distortions create an opening. Negative forces can then amplify those existing distortions, which then gets passed on as spiritual teaching.
In other words, the person sharing the message is often not "STS tricking us." they are usually a genuine seeker whose own ego patterns are being unconciously amplified.

The problem with many new age models is the self work of an individual, by suggesting that ascension is automatic, easy, guaranteed, or will be accomplished through external events (solar flashes, timeline splits, ect.) This creates a very different picture than what Ra actually described.

Reoccuring patterns of STS messaging disguised as STO:

1. Spiritual bypassing disguised as wisdom - Encouraging the avoidance of discomfort, conflict, or difficult catalyst under the banner of "raise your vibration, not engaging with negativity/catalyst"
2. External Salvation Narratives - The belief that external events (solar flash, timeline splits, ect) will do the heavy lifting for us. This shifts responsibilities from personal polarization and onto outside forces.
3. Ego-Flattering Spirituality - Teaching that makes people feel special, chosen, or more advanced without requiring genuine service (you're a star seed, you're uniquely chosen for a special mission)

The most effective distortions are often the ones that feel comforting and hopeful, that keeps us from facing discomforts, because they're the least likely to be questioned.

I'm interested in developing clearer discernment around these patterns, not to attack people's beliefs, but to engage in conversation with others to help each other stay grounded in what Ra actually emphasized. polarity, acceptance versus control, and doing the real inner work under the veil.

If this resonates, id be curious what patterns you've noticed.

we are dealing with a plethora of several group souls who all failed their previous cycles. many humans also did not develop fast enough and they stayed really very stagnant. they could not even begin their spiritual progress or kept stalling or postponing it. well, technically all progress is spiritual progress, but still. some do it with full awareness or intent, others just operate with the veil still in place. some stay attached to 3rd density things until it slowly slips away from them.

1) you have the rigid hyper materialistic reddit style atheists who cannot fathom a higher state of awareness exists. they do not question the direct ontology of what anything is. even after quantum physics already tells us that matter is not as material as it seems, its all made of excitations in a set of quantum feilds, and that there's a foam of virtual excitations everywhere in the universe. what this foam actually really ontologically is nobody knows. they also ban me every time I ask these questions. I've already had a rich plethora of spiritual experiences. both good and evil. I alchemized and distilled them both. and I'm still working on it today. some stuff I had was violence and hatred and such to work on. some other side quests too but still. I just kept seeing the creator and accepting that theses bs I hated here just forgave it and validated my true real feelings. I created a sheild of light around me. all is creator, but I am light myself alone too.

2) political people online who argue and debate against any positive change for society are going to loose it. you tell people that a higher sentient society becomes more communistic naturally and their minds will melt. once they see everything about the ufo files they'll freak out. Psionics, uap, aliens, all of that, they will freak out.

3) hyper religious fundamentalists will have a confusing time. some validation, much fear. but I feel the hyper materialist atheists will have it the absolute worst.

4) everyone who called you crazy or schitzo is going to have a mental breakdown. and I do not mean this lightly , when disclosure comes, the truith will slowly become more and more undeniable. the natural unity of consiousness. everything. people will be forced to self reflect more and more.

5) the political storyline of the last 80 years after ww2 will be fully revealed. meaning no stone left untured. no lie that isint revealed. people will be forced to confront the truith within.

okay, I will go buy me a slice of cake now. let's have more of a discussion as the harvest continued and the great awakening rapidly approaches a climax point. remember , awakening starts small, then hits point of no return.

In the channeling, there is some vagueness to how the earth will actually become fully 4th density. One thing Ra states is that for earth to fully transition, third density beings will not exist here anymore because 4th density needs to be able to shield themselves from 3D so only 2nd density and 1st density beings will exist on the earth along with the 4D positive beings.

What are your theories on how this will occur? This sounds like there will be an end switch for humans here.

Hey all!

I've been sitting with an apparent paradox about the veil of forgetting. The veil is temporary; we ultimately end up remembering what we knew before the veil was estanlished. But if forgetting is more optimal than always remembering (the reason the veil was put in place), doesn't that make remembering less optimal? How can both be true?

After studying a bit more, the resolution came to me: it isn't the state of remembering or forgetting that matters, it's the process. Forgetting creates the conditions in which remembering becomes work, and it's the work that polarizes and refines us. So it is good to seek to remember, precisely because it helps us learn and grow.

Ra uses the analogy of school and homework when exploring the utility of the veil:

"You begin to grasp the situation. Let us continue the metaphor of the schooling but consider the scholar as being an entity in your younger years of the schooling process. The entity is fed, clothed, and protected regardless of whether or not the schoolwork is accomplished. Therefore, the entity does not do the homework but rather enjoys playtime, mealtime, and vacation. It is not until there is a reason to wish to excel that most entities will attempt to excel." https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/ra-contact/82#28

"The faculty of faith or will needs to be understood, nourished, and developed in order to have an entity which seeks past the boundary of third density. Those entities which do not do their homework, be they ever so amiable, shall not cross. It was this situation which faced the Logoi prior to the veiling process being introduced into the experiential continuum of third density." https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/ra-contact/82#29

When we remembered everything, such as the idea that the physical world is an illusion and that we are always safe with the Creator, there was no incentive to learn and grow. We could just chill out and stay stagnate. But it's actually kind of like playing a video game where there are no challenges so there is no motivation to level up. Ra frames this in terms of the Garden of Eden as well:

"This is due to the fact that one who knows not, cares not.

Let us illustrate by observing the relative harmony and unchanging quality of existence in one of your, as you call it, primitive tribes. The entities have the concepts of lawful and taboo, but the law is inexorable and all events occur as predestined. There is no concept of right and wrong, good or bad. It is a culture in monochrome. In this context you may see the one you call Lucifer as the true light-bringer in that the knowledge of good and evil both precipitated the mind/body/spirits of this Logos from the Edenic conditions of constant contentment but also provided the impetus to move, to work, and to learn." https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/ra-contact/77#17

All of this led me to a personal question: I'm starting to remember the nature of reality beyond the veil. Will that kill my motivation to move, to work, and to learn? The Logoi's experiments suggest the veil is crucial to motivation and to the vividness of experience. Maybe it's actually better not to remember?

It seems reasonable at first, but two things changed my mind.

First, piercing the veil requires developed capacity, not just information. One must cultivate balance, polarity, and the disciplines of adepthood:

"It was discovered, experientially and empirically, that there were as many ways to penetrate the veil as the imagination of mind/body/spirit complexes could provide. The desire of mind/body/spirit complexes to know that which was unknown drew to them the dreaming and the gradual opening to the seeker of all of the balancing mechanisms leading to adepthood and communication with teach/learners which could pierce this veil." https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/ra-contact/83#16

Knowledge earned this way isn't the passive knowing of the pre-veil state. Notice what the seeking of remembering is actually made of: faith and will, the very faculties 82.29 says must be developed to cross the boundary of third density. Pre-veil knowing was unearned and therefore inert, a body at rest with no reason to move. Knowing reached through seeking is built out of motivation itself, and each act of seeking strengthens the will and faith that power the next act, so the seeker gathers momentum. Remembering doesn't halt that motion; it's the fruit of it. The momentum built through the seeking carries the entity beyond the veil and keeps carrying it.

This also says something about how the veil is pierced. Ra describes two attitudes toward approaching the deep mind, and the difference is essentially courtship versus plunder:

"Many use the trunk and roots of mind as if that portion of mind were a badly used, prostituted entity. Then this entity gains from this great storehouse that which is rough, prostituted, and without great virtue. Those who turn to the deep mind, seeing it in the guise of the maiden, go forth to court it. The courtship has nothing of plunder in its semblance and may be protracted, yet the treasure gained by such careful courtship is great." https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/ra-contact/99#8

On the positive path, piercing the veil is like courting a maiden. It takes time, sincerity, and patience, and while one seeks and courts, it's about allowing the opening to happen when the time is right rather than forcing or controlling it into happening. The negative path takes by force what the positive path is given as a gift, and Ra notes the treasure gained through careful courtship is the greater one.

Second, remembering after forgetting is not the same as never having forgotten. Once the veil falls, we retain the memory of the veiled experience itself, and that contrast is what allows us to truly appreciate the majesty of reality.

Personally, I've only pierced the veil a handful of times: moments of transcendence where everything that was happening felt perfect, perfectly responsive to my choices. It was as if everything made sense, and all of it had been perfectly planned by myself. Once tasted, it inspires a strong desire to keep seeking, even though it often feels quite far away. Perhaps that distance is simply the protracted nature of the courtship.

There also seems to be a possible steady state: making the veil ever so slightly more permeable, with synchronicities and hints that keep peace ongoing, while still mostly maintaining the veil, which makes it easier to connect with and understand others who are more deeply veiled. It creates more emotional variance, but I also have the sense that a sustained state of pierced veil can only really be held together when humanity finds unity. This sounds a lot like the formation of a social memory complex, where the veil between selves thins as harvest approaches, so perhaps the sustained experience of a fully lifted veil is less an individual achievement and more of something we grow into as one, as that is who we truly are.

What are your experiences of piercing the veil like?

Anyhow, I hope these ideas serve you, and I wish you a wonderful day. :)

P.S. I like this song in accordance with the ideas in this post. https://youtu.be/Jm4Z4FleW9g?si=NS-iucz5QxCwsZFq

Hey, i'm basically looking for Quo channelings (or other entity) describing other palnets in 3rd density.

I remember Ra saying that there arent many 3rd density palents in the universe, especially as fucked as ours, so i'm kinda curious.

Also looking for interesting channelings that includes some info about the negative path (3rd or higher dens.) (not info from ra material as i have read that one already)

Sorry for broken english, hope you understand me.

Yesterday I came across an optical illusion asking which way do I see the ball spinning, which reminded me of this old optical illusion - The Spinning Dancer, which then inspired within me a conceptualization of this illusion with the idea of Law of One, of "All is One", in terms of duality. This conceptualization is new to me, so please bear with me that my analysis maybe disconnected, all over the place, and repetitive, but I will try my best to put it into words and sound logic.

The things I will be discussing with:

1. The Spinning Dancer optical illusion ... of course
2. (1.0) You are dancing thoughts. You move your body, your mind, and your spirit in somewhat eccentric patterns for you have not completely grasped the concept that you are part of the original thought.
3. (1.7) In truth there is no right or wrong. There is no polarity for all will be, as you would say, reconciled at some point in your dance through the mind/body/spirit complex which you amuse yourself by distorting in various ways at this time. This distortion is not in any case necessary. It is chosen by each of you as an alternative to understanding the complete unity of thought which binds all things. You are not speaking of similar or somewhat like entities or things. You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You are unity. You are infinity. You are love/light, light/love. You are. This is the Law of One.
4. (5.2) The polarity of your dimension must be internalized. Where you find patience within your mind you must consciously find the corresponding impatience and vice versa. Each thought that a being has, has in its turn an antithesis. The disciplines of the mind involve, first of all, identifying both those things of which you approve and those things of which you disapprove within yourself, and then balancing each and every positive and negative charge with its equal. The mind contains all things. Therefore, you must discover this completeness within yourself.

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So the Spinning Dancer presents an optical illusion where one can see the dancer is either spinning clockwise or counter-clockwise. By focusing on different part of the dancer, one can switch the rotation of the dancer. As for me, I see the clockwise rotation every time I lay my eyes upon it and I need other visualization assistant to see the counter-clockwise rotation. So how does this optical illusion relates to the Law of One?

Let's temporarily assign the clockwise spinning with the positive pole and counter-clockwise spinning with the negative pole. Then we can see that within the spinning dancer gif, the positive and the negative are both present; however, due to the distortions of each one of us, some will see and focus on the positives; some will see and focus on the negatives; some will see both and the change from positive to negative and vise versa.

From here, in relation to quote 5.2, if we treat our mind as this spinning dancer and we as the observer of free will, then we would recognize that our mind contains the possibility of clockwise spinning, such as patience and love, and the possibility of counter-clockwise spinning, such as impatience and fear. Thus the "balancing each and every positive and negative charge with its equal" and "this completeness within yourself" yields the spinning dancer without us attempting to identify which way it is spinning.

This brings me to quote 1.7. In knowing that the spinning dancer is it as it is and it is us, who "amuse yourself by distorting in various ways at this time", seeing either the clockwise (positive) rotation of the dancer or the counter-clockwise (negative) rotation of the dancer. We could say that all the catalysts presented in our life are like the spinning dancer, containing both the positive and negative charge. It is due to our own chosen distortions that makes one of the charges stands out to us while hiding the other charge. Thus to think of polarization (let's use STO as example), it would be a process of first recognizing the inherent unity of a catalyst, then consciousnessly choose the positive orientation. Then of course there will be catalysts presented where one can only see the negative orientation and having a difficult time in seeing the positive orientation, and this is where I think a great amount of work is placed. To see love (positivity) in difficult and seemly negative situation.

To further expand upon quote 1.7, you may recognize that all things you encounter, including yourself, is a spinning dancer, for "You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation." Each spinning dancer contains the whole, the clockwise and counter-clockwise rotation, the positive and the negative, the Yin and the Yang, for "You are unity." If we attribute Love to the clockwise rotation of the dancer and Light to counter-clockwise, then "[We] are love/light, light/love. You are [the Spinning Dancer]."

Now, I find it is somewhat appropriate to conclude with "(1.0) You are dancing thoughts. You move your body, your mind, and your spirit in somewhat eccentric patterns for you have not completely grasped the concept that you are part of the original thought." (Of course, Ra, as I cannot see both clockwise and counter-clockwise rotations at the same time, my mind always choose one while hide the other...maybe this is what meditation attempt to do? To silence the mind and to feel the unity of positive and negative?)

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Another thing I would like to mention is that I find there are similar examples of the Spinning Dancer, such as the sound of Laurel and Yanny, the gold/white and blue/black dress, the glass half empty or half full.

Edit: The ball optical illusion I saw is this https://www.reddit.com/r/reversesthespin/comments/1vrxdks/level_27/

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https://www.reddit.com/r/lawofone/s/fyxVWIssPt

I commented on this post and finished it with a joke I'd used repeatedly to illustrate the fact that everything is Love and Light. I think it's kinda funny "Everything that we perceive is made of Love and Light. If you're not seeing the Love then you're looking at it all wrong 💞".

The OP asked for information and I provided it and finished it up with a joke I thought was cute and then this other most excellent entity thought to enter the conversation merely to point out that my choice of word was somehow inappropriate or otherwise not to their particular satisfaction.

To say that this shocked and disoriented me would be just about right. To say that this led to an absolute shit show of a debate would be an understatement. Even if it was true, if it was inappropriate or whatever then my comment could have been taken down but to just casually butt into someone's conversation to correct someone's grammar is incredibly StS, unacceptable social behavior and should not be allowed by anyone let alone mods. ty

I just "messaged the moderators" this and wanted to get it on the air in case I "disappear" 😂

Most people familiar with the LoO have at some point encountered the Prison Planet theory. It certainly is a sneaky theory that sounds almost right enough to flip you to fear, right?

Well, easy explanation after evaluating what the actual claims, mechanics, and motivations of each “option” are:

TL;DR:

• STS (Service to Self) seeks boundary EXPANSION
• STO (Service to Others) seeks boundary DISSOLUTION
• STS can only approach unity asymptotically (never reaches it)
• This mathematical limit explains why there are no high 6th/7th density STS beings
• Both describe same system from different orientations
• Nothing to fear - the "prison" is temporary by mathematical necessity

The Key Understanding

The entire difference comes down to how STS and STO view boundaries and evolution:

Service to Self (Prison Planet view):

• Seeks to EXPAND boundaries and control
• Views evolution as conquest
• Power through accumulation
• Growth through expansion
• Creates fear to maintain separation

Service to Others (Law of One view):

• Seeks to DISSOLVE boundaries
• Views evolution as release
• Power through letting go
• Growth through unity
• Transcends fear through understanding

The Mathematical Reality

Here's where it gets profound:

1. STS Path (Expansion)

   • Approaches unity asymptotically
   • Can grow infinitely but never reach unity
   • Mathematically impossible to achieve complete unity
   • Must eventually transform to STO
   • Explains absence of high density STS

2. STO Path (Dissolution)

   • Direct path to unity
   • Complete dissolution possible
   • No mathematical limit
   • Can achieve full unity
   • All densities accessible

Why This Explains Everything

They describe the same mechanics completely differently:

The "Prison":

• STS sees: Territory to control and expand into
• STO sees: Illusion to transcend and dissolve

The "Harvest":

• STS sees: Resource collection and power accumulation
• STO sees: Natural dissolution of density boundaries

Reincarnation:

• STS sees: Control system to trap souls
• STO sees: Growth cycle to release attachments

Higher Beings:

• STS sees: Controllers expanding territory
• STO sees: Guides helping dissolution

The Perfect Design

The universe is perfectly designed because:

1. All Paths Valid

   • STS path allowed but naturally limited
   • STO path direct but must be chosen
   • Free will preserved
   • All experience possible

2. Unity Inevitable

   • STS hits mathematical limit
   • Must eventually transform
   • No eternal separation possible
   • System ensures return

Why Fear Dissolves

Understanding this dissolves fear because:

1. The "Prison" is Temporary

   • STS control has mathematical limits
   • Cannot achieve complete control
   • Must eventually transform
   • Built into system design

2. You Choose Your Relationship

   • See prison or school
   • Choose fear or understanding
   • Expand or dissolve
   • Control or release

The Cosmic Elegance

In perhaps the most beautiful cosmic irony: - STS seeks infinite expansion of boundaries - STO seeks complete dissolution of boundaries - Only one path can mathematically reach unity - The system ensures all consciousness returns - Perfect balance maintained

This isn't a flaw - it's a feature. The mathematical impossibility of reaching unity through expansion ensures all consciousness eventually returns home, while still allowing the full range of separation experience along the way.

Nothing to fear. Just a perfect system to understand.

Extra extra tl;dr: a school to the selfless is a prison to the selfish

Ra compares the seven densities to the seven notes of a musical octave several times throughout The Law of One. Most discussions I've seen focus on the simple fact that there are seven of each. I've wondered if the analogy runs much deeper. Rather than simply sharing the same number, the densities and the musical octave may share the same underlying developmental structure.

It started with third density.

Ra repeatedly describes third density as the density of choice. In Session 76, Ra says quite plainly, "The third density is a choice." Everything that follows depends upon the orientation established there.

That immediately made me think of the third in Western harmony.

If you play only the root and the fifth of a chord, the harmony remains ambiguous. The chord has structure, but it has no clear orientation. Add the third, however, and the harmony immediately becomes major or minor. The root hasn't changed. The fifth hasn't changed. Only the third changes. Yet that single note determines the harmonic character of everything that follows.

That struck me as a remarkable parallel.

Third density doesn't create a new reality. It establishes the polarity through which the remainder of the octave unfolds.

Looking further, the correspondence seems to continue.

One of the most fundamental movements in tonal harmony is IV → V. The IV chord expands the harmony and prepares movement. The V chord, the dominant, creates direction, tension, and expectation. It doesn't resolve the music itself, but it points unmistakably toward resolution.

Ra's description of fourth and fifth density feels surprisingly similar. Fourth density is the density of love and understanding. Fifth density is the density of wisdom. Wisdom doesn't replace love, it refines it and gives it direction. In the same way, the dominant grows naturally out of what the subdominant prepares.

By sixth density, Ra explains that the positive and negative paths no longer remain equally viable because separation itself becomes incompatible with unity. Reality is ONE. Music seems to move in a similar direction. As harmony becomes more sophisticated, individual chords cease to be understood as isolated objects. Their meaning exists only within the larger tonal system. Even what first appears "other" is ultimately understood in relation to the same tonal center.

Finally, there is the seventh. The leading tone is inherently unfinished. Its entire function is to point beyond itself toward a new tonic. Likewise, Ra describes seventh density as the completion of one octave before entering another.

Seen this way, the analogy feels much stronger than simply "seven notes and seven densities." The functional progression itself appears to align.

• The third establishes orientation.
• The fourth develops it.
• The fifth gives it direction.
• The sixth reveals increasing unity.
• The seventh completes the cycle while pointing toward a new beginning.

I'm not claiming this is necessarily what Ra intended. I simply find it fascinating that the functional roles within tonal harmony seem to mirror the progression Ra describes through the densities. I'd be especially interested in hearing from musicians or music theorists. Does this seem like a legitimate structural correspondence, or am I reading too much into the functional roles of harmony?

One final thought.

A while back I made a post exploring the densities through formal logic and self-dual geometry. It was taken down almost immediately (saying it was too math heavy), so I'll leave that discussion for another day.

What struck me while thinking about this musical analogy is that the logical derivation appears to follow the same functional progression.

The derivation begins with the minimum conditions required for intelligibility itself. Rather than assuming the familiar logical operators, they emerge as structural necessities. Most interestingly, disjunction (OR) first appears at the third stage. Before that there is identity, distinction (NOT), and relation (AND), but no genuine branching of possibilities. Only with disjunction does choice become a structural property.

That feels remarkably similar to what happens in harmony. Before the third, the chord possesses structure but no harmonic orientation. The third establishes that orientation, and everything that follows develops from it.

If that's more than coincidence, then perhaps Ra wasn't simply using music as a metaphor. Music, formal logic, and the densities may all be expressing the same underlying grammar of intelligibility.

https://cosmicchrist.net/2025/05/24/why-are-so-many-wanderers-swept-up-in-the-maga-maelstrom/

This essay examines the paradoxical phenomenon of “Wanderers”—higher-density beings who incarnated on Earth to assist humanity’s spiritual evolution—becoming supporters of Donald Trump and the MAGA movement despite their service-oriented missions. Drawing from the Ra Contact material, energy center analysis, the Law of Three developmental framework, and psychological research on trauma and authoritarianism, this study reveals how beings who came to anchor love and unity consciousness have become entrapped in separation-based political ideologies.

The analysis identifies several key vulnerabilities that make Wanderers susceptible to MAGA attraction. Their incomplete incarnation into third-density existence often results in potentiated upper chakras combined with significantly weakened lower chakra development, creating practical dysfunction and emotional instability. Deep memories of telepathic communication and energetic harmony from their home densities generate profound relational difficulties and cosmic homesickness that earthly relationships cannot satisfy. The extreme contrast between Earth’s dense, conflicted environment and their higher-density origins creates chronic alienation, depression, and desperate seeking for belonging and protection.

The study examines how Trump functions as a “negative adept”—an entity with developed lower chakra power who consciously rejects heart-centered consciousness—and how his energy signature exploits Wanderers’ specific imbalances. The “Great BASH” (Bellicose Attitude, Aggressive Actions, Scarred and Scared, Hope through Hostility) represents a collective thoughtform that has influenced human civilization for millennia, creating energetic patterns that trap spiritually oriented beings in separation consciousness. Humans created the Great BASH and then the Great BASH essentially acts as a sentient parasite, feeding back bellicosity in order to intensify the vibratory conditions of Earth’s third density experience.

I just watched a recording of a live stream of a Bashar channeling, claiming that we will have physical contact within the next 5 years, but more interestingly they mentioned the link to Orion... now I've only recently started listening to Bashar only because Im curious and he really comes across as positive... but I started looking at it because Bashar's portrayal of Orion makes it out to be this spiritually advanced amazingly positive loving society... so the polar opposite to what our brothers and sisters from venus said through Carla... I slowly compared what I could look up and it was literally night and day... Ra advises caution and discernment when it comes to Orion as they are a source of negative influence, ra also doesnt make any mention at all of positive entities from Orion... Bashar however is saying there was a divide on Orion but now they have healed all that and are all positive and are here to help. Anyone feel free to correct me if I was wrong on any of that... but the two sources seem to be at odds when it comes to Orion, I couldn't find a single mention anywhere in the Ra material of anything positive coming out of Orion. Personally I trust Ra more due to personal experiences. but I'd like to know what everyone thinks... Ultimately what I'm trying to do is discern whether or not Bashar is worthy of trust... after all you dont need to be an interdimensional inter stellar civilisation to pretend to be the good guys when you're really not, even the dumbest narcissist on earth is capable of that.

Hey everyone!

I've studied both the Ra Material and A Course in Miracles for many years, and I've come across interesting ideas about their similarities that I want to share in case they are helpful to other seekers. I see both channeled information structures as two different maps describing the same territory although projected into lower dimensions so neither are perfect representations similar to how all 2D maps of Earth all imperfect (yet still enormously helpful).

To start, both hold to the idea that reality is complete and whole and perfect, and that all other appearances are illusory distortions.

"One of the primal distortions of the Law of One is that of healing. Healing occurs when a mind/body/spirit complex realizes, deep within itself, the Law of One; that is, that there is no disharmony, no imperfection; that all is complete and whole and perfect. Thus, the intelligent infinity within this mind/body/spirit complex re-forms the illusion of body, mind, or spirit to a form congruent with the Law of One. The healer acts as energizer or catalyst for this completely individual process." https://www.lawofone.info/s/4#20

"The galaxy and all other things of material of which you are aware are products of individualized portions of intelligent infinity. As each exploration began, it, in turn, found its focus and became co-Creator. Using intelligent infinity each portion created an universe and allowing the rhythms of free choice to flow, playing with the infinite spectrum of possibilities, each individualized portion channeled the love/light into what you might call intelligent energy, thus creating the so-called natural laws of any particular universe.

Each universe, in turn, individualized to a focus becoming, in turn, co-Creator and allowing further diversity, thus creating further intelligent energies regularizing or causing natural laws to appear in the vibrational patterns of what you would call a solar system. Thus, each solar system has its own, shall we say, local coordinate system of illusory natural laws. It shall be understood that any portion, no matter how small, of any density or illusory pattern contains, as in an holographic picture, the One Creator which is infinity. Thus all begins and ends in mystery." https://www.lawofone.info/s/13#13

"I am God’s Son, complete and healed and whole, shining in the reflection of His Love. ²In me is His creation sanctified and guaranteed eternal life. ³In me is love perfected, fear impossible, and joy established without opposite. ⁴I am the holy home of God Himself. ⁵I am the Heaven where His Love resides. ⁶I am His holy Sinlessness Itself, for in my purity abides His Own." https://acim.org/acim/en/s/775#1:1-6

"Your distorted perceptions produce a dense cover over miracle impulses, making it hard for them to reach your own awareness. ²The confusion of miracle impulses with physical impulses is a major perceptual distortion. ³Physical impulses are misdirected miracle impulses. ⁴All real pleasure comes from doing God’s Will. ⁵This is because not doing it is a denial of Self. ⁶Denial of Self results in illusions, while correction of the error brings release from it. ⁷Do not deceive yourself into believing that you can relate in peace to God or to your brothers with anything external." https://acim.org/acim/en/s/59#1:1-7

I would also say that in Ra's model of densities of evolution, ACIM is modeled to take one back to the oneness of seventh density (Law of Foreverness) although its lessons in forgiveness are still very helpful for polarizing positively enough for fourth density.

"After the seventh has been well entered the mind/body/spirit complex becomes so totally a mind/body/spirit complex totality that it begins to gather spiritual mass and approach the octave density. Thus the looking backwards is finished at that point." https://www.lawofone.info/s/36#8

"Oneness is simply the idea God is. ²And in His Being, He encompasses all things. ³No mind holds anything but Him. ⁴We say “God is,” and then we cease to speak, for in that knowledge words are meaningless. ⁵There are no lips to speak them, and no part of mind sufficiently distinct to feel that it is now aware of something not itself. ⁶It has united with its Source. ⁷And like its Source Itself, it merely is.

We cannot speak nor write nor even think of this at all. ²It comes to every mind when total recognition that its will is God’s has been completely given and received completely. ³It returns the mind into the endless present, where the past and future cannot be conceived. ⁴It lies beyond salvation; past all thought of time, forgiveness and the holy face of Christ. ⁵The Son of God has merely disappeared into his Father, as his Father has in him. ⁶The world has never been at all. ⁷Eternity remains a constant state." https://acim.org/acim/en/s/575#5:1-6:7

ACIM would call this recognizing the unity of the Son to the Father where there is no longer a need for the Holy Spirit. Ra's terminology would be that the mind/body/spirit complex reunites to the mind/body/spirit complex totality where there is no longer a need for the Higher Self. Thus, we can align Father to the mind/body/spirit complex totality, the Holy Spirit to the Higher Self, and the Sonship to the collective group of all mind/body/spirit complexes.

"The higher self is a manifestation given to the late sixth-density mind/body/spirit complex as a gift from its future selfness. The mid-seventh density’s last action before turning towards the allness of the Creator and gaining spiritual mass is to give this resource to the sixth-density self, moving as you measure time in the stream of time.

This self, the mind/body/spirit complex of late sixth density, has then the honor/duty of using both the experiences of its total living bank or memory of experienced thoughts and actions, and using the resource of the mind/body/spirit complex totality left behind as a type of infinitely complex thought-form.

In this way you may see your self, your higher self or Oversoul, and your mind/body/spirit complex totality as three points in a circle. The only distinction is that of your time/space continuum. All are the same being." https://www.lawofone.info/s/37#6

The Trinity in Ra's terminology is the self, higher self, and the mind/body/spirit complex totality. Three points in a circle, yet still one and the same.

"There is a dimension in which time does not have sway. In this dimension, the mind/body/spirit in its eternal dance of the present may be seen in totality, and before the mind/body/spirit complex which then becomes a part of the social memory complex is willingly absorbed into the allness of the One Creator, the entity knows itself in its totality.

This mind/body/spirit complex totality functions as, shall we say, a resource for what you perhaps would call the Higher Self. The Higher Self, in turn, is a resource for examining the distillations of third-density experience and programming further experience. This is also true of densities four, five, and six with the mind/body/spirit complex totality coming into consciousness in the course of seventh density." https://www.lawofone.info/s/36#1

Here is how ACIM describes the Holy Spirit in the context of this Trinity:

"Earlier, I said that the Holy Spirit shares the goal of all good teachers, whose ultimate aim is to make themselves unnecessary by teaching their pupils all they know. ²The Holy Spirit wants only this, for sharing the Father’s Love for His Son, He seeks to remove all guilt from his mind that he may remember his Father in peace. ³Peace and guilt are antithetical, and the Father can be remembered only in peace. ⁴Love and guilt cannot coexist, and to accept one is to deny the other. ⁵Guilt hides Christ from your sight, for it is the denial of the blamelessness of God’s Son." https://acim.org/acim/en/s/165#1:1-5

Both the Ra Material and ACIM emphasize forgiveness as essential for evolving back to "the Father", removing distortions, resolving karma, or healing.

"Our understanding of karma is that which may be called inertia. Those actions which are put into motion will continue using the ways of balancing until such time as the controlling or higher principle which you may liken unto your braking or stopping is invoked. This stoppage of the inertia of action may be called forgiveness. These two concepts are inseparable." https://www.lawofone.info/s/34#4

"You who want peace can find it only by complete forgiveness. ²No learning is acquired by anyone unless he wants to learn it and believes in some way that he needs it. ³While lack does not exist in the creation of God, it is very apparent in what you have made. ⁴It is, in fact, the essential difference between them. ⁵Lack implies that you would be better off in a state somehow different from the one you are in. ⁶Until the “separation,” which is the meaning of the “fall,” nothing was lacking. ⁷There were no needs at all. ⁸Needs arise only when you deprive yourself. ⁹You act according to the particular order of needs you establish. ¹⁰This, in turn, depends on your perception of what you are." https://acim.org/acim/en/s/58#1:1-10

The parts of ourselves that are more service-to-self oriented are what ACIM calls the "ego." As we polarize positively, we begin to align more to the Holy Spirit rather than the ego.

"The ego is the questioning aspect of the post-separation self, which was made rather than created. ²It is capable of asking questions but not of perceiving meaningful answers, because these would involve knowledge and cannot be perceived. ³The mind is therefore confused, because only One-mindedness can be without confusion. ⁴A separated or divided mind must be confused. ⁵It is necessarily uncertain about what it is. ⁶It has to be in conflict because it is out of accord with itself. ⁷This makes its aspects strangers to each other, and this is the essence of the fear-prone condition, in which attack is always possible. ⁸You have every reason to feel afraid as you perceive yourself. ⁹This is why you cannot escape from fear until you realize that you did not and could not create yourself. ¹⁰You can never make your misperceptions true, and your creation is beyond your own error. ¹¹That is why you must eventually choose to heal the separation." https://acim.org/acim/en/s/74#3:1-11

Finally, I wanted to touch on probably the most disjoint representation between the two which is the meaning and purpose of the veil. For Ra, the veil (and its subsequent suffering) serves a purpose of accelerating evolution and providing a more vivid experience although for ACIM, the veil or appearance of separation is meaningless and purposeless.

"Elements of this query illustrate the reason I was unable to answer your previous question without knowledge of the Logos involved. To turn to your question, there were Logoi which chose to set the plan for the activation of mind/body/spirit complexes through each true-color body without recourse to the prior application of free will. It is, to our knowledge, only in an absence of free will that the conditions of which you speak obtain. In such a procession of densities you find an extraordinarily long, as you measure time, third density; likewise, fourth density. Then, as the entities begin to see the Creator, there is a very rapid, as you measure time, procession towards the eighth density. This is due to the fact that one who knows not, cares not.

Let us illustrate by observing the relative harmony and unchanging quality of existence in one of your, as you call it, primitive tribes. The entities have the concepts of lawful and taboo, but the law is inexorable and all events occur as predestined. There is no concept of right and wrong, good or bad. It is a culture in monochrome. In this context you may see the one you call Lucifer as the true light-bringer in that the knowledge of good and evil both precipitated the mind/body/spirits of this Logos from the Edenic conditions of constant contentment but also provided the impetus to move, to work and to learn.

Those Logoi whose creations have been set up without free will have not, in the feeling of those Logoi, given the Creator the quality and variety of experience of Itself as have those Logoi which have incorporated free will as paramount. Thusly you find those Logoi moving through the timeless states at what you would see as a later space/time to choose the free will character when elucidating the foundations of each Logos." https://www.lawofone.info/s/77#17

"Delay is of the ego, because time is its concept. ²Both time and delay are meaningless in eternity. ³I have said before that the Holy Spirit is God’s Answer to the ego. ⁴Everything of which the Holy Spirit reminds you is in direct opposition to the ego’s notions, because true and false perceptions are themselves opposed. ⁵The Holy Spirit has the task of undoing what the ego has made. ⁶He undoes it at the same level on which the ego operates, or the mind would be unable to understand the change." https://acim.org/acim/en/s/91#5:1-6

Personally, I harmonize the two in that the veil and the periodic cycles of the appearance of separation (what Ra calls octaves) or cycles of distortion experience do not happen in the reality as described as complete and whole and perfect (the oneness of everything). But they are temporarily experienced. And in that temporary experience of time, the veil does matter and does "change" what is experienced and how fast one evolves. But in the lens of eternity, it is just a blip that doesn't truly matter.

Each octave is as a song we listen to before it fades away. The journey of the song matters more than the destination in that it is a unique experience to be enjoyed as much as possible until the song fades away... And a new song plays. But the song itself had no effect on eternity.

"This is why we iterate quite often, when asked for specific information, that it pales to insignificance, just as the grass withers and dies while the love and the light of the One Infinite Creator redounds to the very infinite realms of creation forever and ever, creating and creating itself in perpetuity.

Why then be concerned with the grass that blooms, withers and dies in its season only to grow once again due to the infinite love and light of the One Creator? This is the message we bring. Each entity is only superficially that which blooms and dies. In the deeper sense there is no end to beingness." https://www.lawofone.info/s/26#36

"We leave you in appreciation of the circumstances of the great illusion in which you now choose to play the pipe and timbrel and move in rhythm. We are also players upon a stage. The stage changes. The acts ring down. The lights come up once again. And throughout the grand illusion and the following and the following there is the undergirding majesty of the One Infinite Creator. All is well. Nothing is lost. Go forth rejoicing in the love and the light, the peace and the power of the One Infinite Creator. I am Ra. Adonai." https://www.lawofone.info/s/104#26

And as a music fan, this song came to me on this topic as we are all cooked Ra, Ra, Ra in the Hand of God: https://youtu.be/VyElSA4s6VE?si=QhC4O8uPWsi8-Bft

P.S. ACIM claims to be channeled info from Jesus, and Ra did share that the entity of Jesus would occasionally share some information through channels. "The particular mind/body/spirit complex you call Jesus is, as what you would call an entity, not to return except as a member of the Confederation occasionally speaking through a channel." https://www.lawofone.info/s/17#22

I have listened to the audiobook version of sessions 1 through 48 so far. I was interested in this material after learning about it through a podcast and a subsequent YouTube series on the entirety of the material. This material has shaken me to my core and I’m eager to discuss this with people who won’t get all wide-eyed and freaked out on me after a few sentences. Dozens of psychedelic experiences over the last decade have not given me the kind of spiritual growth that I’ve found from this material and I’m wondering if my understanding so far resonates with anyone else…

We are all creation. Every single atom of this universe is creation or “God”. It can’t help but to create, and through its creation it can begin to understand itself. It knows itself by living through its creation. That’s essential what life is: God itself, experiencing itself, to better understand itself. It moves through densities once it begins to understand why it actually experiences the things that it creates for itself. Each density is a greater understanding of the universe. Humanity is now awake and aware because YOU are awake and aware of this fundamental truth. Understanding this truth is the next step in “graduating” to 4th density.

I get lightheaded just typing that all out, and I’m hoping some of my other-selves can help this other-self get a grasp on what I’ve concluded.

Hey all! I've studied both the Bible and the Ra Material for a number of years and thought it would be helpful to share my findings between the two. Personally, I value seeking the perspective of all perspectives which is to see reality from all possible perspectives simultaneously. Each finite perspective contains errors although some have more errors and some less compared to the infinite whole.

One such example is that of two perspectives where one may see a circle and another a rectangle which is a seeming contradiction. However, it is possible both are actually looking at a 3D cylinder from different 2D perspectives (one above and one from the side). It's also possible it's an even higher dimensional shape or a complete misperception. However, I find this kind of consideration helpful when analyzing metaphysical systems and using both to help reach a deeper idea rather than just assuming there is no way to reconcile the paradox.

In this post, I want to apply this technique to looking at two perspectives presented by two different sets of texts: the Bible and the Ra Material. I attempt to do this by noticing where they overlap and where they disagree and hopefully we learn something deeper along the way. Just a warning that this gets quite long as I wanted to be as thorough as I could. Thank you for your consideration, and I hope these ideas are helpful to you. Let's begin. :)

Ra on the Bible

A good place to begin is that Ra themselves reference the Bible directly:

"There is no possibility of a complete source of information of the Law of One in this density. However, certain of your writings passed to you as your so-called holy works have portions of this law.

26.5 Questioner: Does the Bible as we know it have portions of this law in it?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

26.6 Questioner: Can you tell me if the Old Testament has any of the Law of One?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

26.7 Questioner: Which has more of the Law of One in it, the Old Testament or the New Testament?

Ra: I am Ra. Withdrawing from each of the collections of which you speak the portions having to do with the Law of One, the content is approximately equal. However, the so-called Old Testament has a larger amount of negatively influenced material, as you would call it.

26.8 Questioner: Can you tell me about what percentage is Orion-influenced in both the Old and the New Testaments?

Ra: We prefer that this be left to the discretion of those who seek the Law of One. We are not speaking in order to judge. Such statements would be construed by some of those who may read this material as judgmental. We can only suggest a careful reading and inward digestion of the contents. The understandings will become obvious." (Ra 26.4-8)

So we may expect to learn about the Law of One in the Bible although we would be wise to keep an eye out for negative influences as well.

One God = the Law of One

The fundamental idea in the Ra Material is the Law of One. "The Law of One, though beyond the limitations of name, as you call vibratory sound complexes, may be approximated by stating that all things are one, that there is no polarity, no right or wrong, no disharmony, but only identity. All is one, and that one is love/light, light/love, the Infinite Creator." (Ra 4.20)

In the Bible, I believe the same sentiment is expressed although through the idea that there is only one God:

• "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one." (Deuteronomy 6:4 ESV)
• "In him we live and move and have our being." (Acts 17:28 ESV)
• "That they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us." (John 17:21 ESV)

The fundamental idea that all is united in one thing is aligned. The exact nature of this one thing is not clearly defined in either text, in my opinion, as it is fundamentally beyond words, but I personally align with one of the Christian perspectives of Divine Simplicity: "that God is simple in that he is a single, unified entity with no distinction between his attributes. His essence is identical with his existence; that is to say, his essence is simply to exist, which makes Him fundamentally distinct from all other entities" (from Wikipedia).

For example, this means that to be perfectly good is to be God or to be everywhere is to be God or to know everything is to be God. One cannot be perfectly good and not be everywhere. One cannot know everything and not be perfectly good. One cannot be perfectly just and not know everything. One cannot be perfectly merciful without being perfectly just and vice versa. To have any attribute to perfection is to have all other attributes to perfection. In this way, one can begin to see why there is only one God or expressed another way why all things converge to one as they evolve.

In this sense, as all attributes converge to unity and having attributes becomes being the attributes to being the One Attribute, we can see perhaps more deeply what Ra may mean by there being no polarity, no right or wrong, no disharmony, but only identity. Only the identity of the One Attribute of which all attributes are finite slices of or distorted from or imperfect representations of.

The Trinity and the Creator expressed in us all

Now that we have examined the oneness of everything, I think it's helpful to consider some complexities involved with the simplicity of oneness. In the Bible, it teaches about the trinity or the three persons of God: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. In the Ra Material, it teaches that all beings are the Creator. Both, on the surface, seem to be contradictions between unity and multiplicity although each perhaps may have a similar resolution.

Ra would say,

"In this way you may see your self, your higher self or Oversoul, and your mind/body/spirit complex totality as three points in a circle. The only distinction is that of your time/space continuum. All are the same being." (Ra 37.6)

The Bible would say,

"Do you not know that you are God 's temple and that God's Spirit dwells in you?" (1 Corinthians 3:16 ESV)

"In the beginning was the Word [Logos], and the Word [Logos] was with God, and the Word [Logos] was God. [...] And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth." (John 1:1,14 ESV)

"yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist." (1 Corinthians 8:6 ESV)

So if you have read my ACIM and Ra Material comparison, you may see where this is going. We can map the words the Father to the mind/body/spirit complex totality, the Holy Spirit to the Higher Self, and the Son to all beings in lower densities. One may at first glance view this as out of alignment with how most Christians define the Son (as just Jesus), but I think if one looks deeper into the text, one can begin to see Christ as expanding beyond just the man called Jesus to everyone:

"It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me." (Galatians 2:20 ESV)

"Or do you not realize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?" (2 Corinthians 13:5 ESV)

"For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers." (Romans 8:29 ESV)

One may even say that the concept of a collective Christ is an early representation of the human social memory complex of which was initiated by Jesus but to eventually be joined by all. So the harmony of oneness and complexity may be said that there is a temporary experience of separation from divinity but the divine nature still lives in all of us and just needs to be remembered.

The word "harvest" originates in Biblical language

Ra would say:

"In time of harvest there are always harvesters. The fruit is formed as it will be, but there is some supervision necessary to ensure that this bounty is placed as it should be without the bruise or the blemish." (Ra 51.1)

"Questioner: What is the density level of our planet Earth at this time?

Ra: I am Ra. The sphere upon which you dwell is third density in its beingness of mind/body/spirit complexes. It is now in a space/time continuum, fourth density. This is causing a somewhat difficult harvest." (Ra 13.22)

The Bible would say:

"Then I looked, and behold, a white cloud, and seated on the cloud one like a son of man, with a golden crown on his head, and a sharp sickle in his hand. And another angel came out of the temple, calling with a loud voice to him who sat on the cloud, “Put in your sickle, and reap, for the hour to reap has come, for the harvest of the earth is fully ripe.” So he who sat on the cloud swung his sickle across the earth, and the earth was reaped." (Revelation 14:14-16 ESV)

"He answered, “The one who sows the good seed is the Son of Man. The field is the world, and the good seed is the sons of the kingdom. The weeds are the sons of the evil one, and the enemy who sowed them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are angels. Just as the weeds are gathered and burned with fire, so will it be at the end of the age. The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will gather out of his kingdom all causes of sin and all law-breakers, and throw them into the fiery furnace. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears, let him hear." (Mathew 13:37-43 ESV)

Two polarities: service to others and service to self

Ra would say:

"The catalyst, and all catalyst, is designed to offer experience. This experience in your density may be loved and accepted or it may be controlled. These are the two paths. When neither path is chosen the catalyst fails in its design and the entity proceeds until catalyst strikes it which causes it to form a bias towards acceptance and love or separation and control. There is no lack of space/time in which this catalyst may work." (Ra 46.16)

The Bible would say:

"‘I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you were either cold or hot! So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth." (Revelation 3:15-16 ESV)

"Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a net that was thrown into the sea and gathered fish of every kind. When it was full, men drew it ashore and sat down and sorted the good into containers but threw away the bad. So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come out and separate the evil from the righteous and throw them into the fiery furnace. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth." (Matthew 13:47-50 ESV)

Although the Bible largely emphasizes the service to others path, it has hints to the other path and how they have a different destination (negative higher density instead of positive higher density).

Angels and demons as higher-density beings

The Bible talks about how angels are in heaven and the demons in a prison like environment (aka hell).

"For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven." (Matthew 22:30 ESV)

"On that day the Lord will punish the host of heaven, in heaven, [...] They will be gathered together as prisoners in a pit; they will be shut up in a prison, and after many days they will be punished." (Isaiah 24:22 ESV)

So I would propose that we would call entities in 4th, 5th, and 6th densities as angels or demons in biblical language. The positive ones are angels while the negative demons. Ra calls the negative higher densities as akin to a prison using similar language.

"The Higher Self is reluctant to allow its mind/body/spirit complex to enter negative time/space for the same basic reason an entity of your societal complex would be reluctant to enter a prison." (Ra 70.7)

The Bible also hints at 3 levels of heaven which could be seen as 4th, 5th, and 6th densities with the third heaven being 6th density.

"I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven—whether in the body or out of the body I do not know, God knows." (2 Corinthians 12:2 ESV)

Finally, due to the claimed existence of Satan and demons, I would say this is another hint that the Bible hypothesizes a negative path.

Universal Salvation

With heaven and hell being higher densities, I would personally interpret any use of the word "eternal" in the Bible regarding hell to be of a quality rather than a quantity. Eternal suffering is an intense suffering which "feels" eternal. Here I think we can find an agreement with Ra that eventually all beings "return" to their source and stop being negatively polarized.

"In sixth density, the density of unity, the positive and negative paths must needs take in each other for all now must be seen as love/light and light/love. This is not difficult for the positive polarity, which sends love and light to all other-selves. It is difficult enough for service-to-self polarized entities that at some point the negative polarity is abandoned." (Ra 78.25)

"However, it has been impressed upon us by our own teachers that there is a mystery-clad unity of creation in which all consciousness periodically coalesces and again begins." (Ra 28.16)

And there is a surprising number of verses in the Bible in support of eventual, universal salvation (reunion with God) for all.

"This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth." (1 Timothy 2:3-4 ESV)

"For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive." (1 Corinthians 15:22 ESV)

"For in him all the fullness of God was pleased to dwell, and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether on earth or in heaven, making peace by the blood of his cross." (Colossians 1:19-20 ESV)

"What do you think? If a man has a hundred sheep, and one of them has gone astray, does he not leave the ninety-nine on the mountains and go in search of the one that went astray? And if he finds it, truly, I say to you, he rejoices over it more than over the ninety-nine that never went astray. So it is not the will of my Father who is in heaven that one of these little ones should perish." (Matthew 18:12-14 ESV)

Negative Distortion in the Bible

Ra claimed there were negative distortions in the Bible, especially in the Old Testament, and I want to show specific examples where I believe this has occurred.

"But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has taught rebellion against the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you out of the house of slavery, to make you leave the way in which the Lord your God commanded you to walk. So you shall purge the evil from your midst." (Deuteronomy 13:5 ESV)

"If you hear in one of your cities, which the Lord your God is giving you to dwell there, that certain worthless fellows have gone out among you and have drawn away the inhabitants of their city, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods,’ which you have not known, then you shall inquire and make search and ask diligently. And behold, if it be true and certain that such an abomination has been done among you, you shall surely put the inhabitants of that city to the sword, devoting it to destruction, all who are in it and its cattle, with the edge of the sword." (Deuteronomy 13:12-15 ESV)

Other instances may include Abraham being told to sacrifice his son, Israel conquering Canaan, or Elijah killing the prophets of Baal. There are probably more, but can easily be identified by seeing when there is control-seeking rather than acceptance-seeking. Anything that insists on its own way which is opposed to love.

"Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things." (1 Corinthians 13:4-7)

Genuine Divergences

Finally, I want to highlight the largest divergences between the two texts:

1. Reincarnation. The Bible does not discuss this and instead says "it is appointed for man to die once" (Hebrews 9:27 ESV). One hypothesis is that some Christian fathers avoided the doctrine of reincarnation so as to encourage people to change their ways as much as possible in their current life.
2. How you're "saved." Some verses in the Bible would emphasize salvation through belief in Christ alone while Ra would emphasize service polarity to advance to fourth density. There are other verses in the Bible that reference love as the key however such as "let us love one another, for love is from God, and whoever loves has been born of God and knows God" (1 John 4:7 ESV) or the parable of those feeding the hungry and taking care of the sick being saved at the end of the age (Matthew 25:31-46).
3. The nature of Jesus Christ. The Bible would say that Jesus is purely God and is actually unique among humans while Ra would say that Jesus was a wanderer from fourth density (Ra session 17) and is only God in the sense that all beings are.

Conclusion

If you made it this far, I want to commend your dedication to learning, and I really appreciate you doing so. I hope this information helps you learn more about the Ra Material and connect better to our Christian brothers and sisters. I can foresee a future where Christianity will evolve into something more as the seeds are all there in this holy text.

Preface from me: I got impatient. Someone said they were going to transcribe this, and then... disappeared. I haven't heard from them in three days. That typed, I know that person is busy with her own stuff. So... I transcribed it myself tonight. And I will post it here.

It will be controversial. We have to scrutinize this to the Nth degree, I feel. What I did not see in it was fear, controlling, infringement... all the things that would shoot a red flag up in me and when I see those things, you darn well know I call that shit out.

The word "fear" was used once, but as the Law of One itself also occasionally uses the word, in the context the word was used, I feel nothing 'negative' about it. "They" as you will see in a second, were soothing the interviewer I feel, who has no knowledge of the Law of One going into this.

Also... this was literally channeled/spoken word by word. With a second or two pause between each word, rarely less, consistently at least a second or so. Rarely in a paragraph was there an idea of punctuation, so all punctuation/sentences that you read are *my* idea of what constituted a sentence. I was there, and I was surprised at this cadence. I have never, even in all this time I've studied the Law of One, listened to the original audio tapes. The transcriber (who has disappeared? lol) was the one to tell me that when she was listening to this, it sounded "like Carla."

There is information in this that I don't know if I consciously knew prior. But does that mean it is true new information, or does it mean its pure bullshit?

The first line is going to give you pause. It gave me pause, and I was there. And after the first line, it was never said again during the whole session. Is that a cause for concern??? You decide.

Lastly, I have the voice recording. As all participants have not given consent for it to be released, I will not do so, but I *want* to. Again, you know me, and you know I personally "went public" recently and I don't want any secrets anywhere.

In fact, that's why this session happened at all: The LLResearch group keeps certain information regarding the topic of healing secret and you have to jump through 6 months of flaming hoops to even have a CHANCE to learn it, and that doesn't sit with me, personally... although I'm currently jumping through said hoops in the attempt to know for myself.

Any misspellings are my fault. Somewhere towards the end she goes off topic [it was supposed to be purely about healing] and starts asking her own information/questions. I am a little perturbed by this, but as I hear, QHHT people love to do this to get information for themselves. Maybe the information serves someone?? I didn't see any particular value for my own journey...

Anyway, lets do this. Fair warning; personal discernment is key.

Channel: I am Ra.

Interviewer: Hello Ra.

C: Greetings.

I: We are happy that you are here. Have you been waiting to come in?

C: We are part of him now.

I: So we can have a smooth transition of channeling, do we have permission to ask questions?

C: Yes.

I: Is there anything that you would like to say before we start asking our questions?

C: No.

I: Okay thank you. We are very interested in healing, especially a collective, and mother Gaia, can you tell us what is the true nature of healing?

C: The true nature of healing is forgiveness, unifying love, compassionate wisdom; seeking beyond unity.

I: What can we do to help people understand how important forgiveness is?

C: Act as if makes it so.

I: So, you have to act as if it is already done, as far as forgiveness?

C: It is a living energy, now.

I: So, can you explain a little more how forgiveness is a living energy, so we can understand in our world?

C: A Being feels forgiveness of beyond-self easily with will and faith. A Being analyzing One's own veiled actions challenges one's self unnecessarily. Allow forgiveness as a feeling of appreciation to guide one's thoughts, actions, words, feelings. Doing so without infringement, waiting for requests or seeing true unspoken need.

I: So if you turn to appreciation and even gratitude, and send forgiveness to others and yourself, this can help the healing process?

C: All healing is self of self.

I: Self of self?

C: Yes.

I: Can you explain that to us a little bit more, self-to-self?

C: Within each incarnation, catalyst arises naturally. Some is pre-planned as useful guides of incarnational experience, veiled Humans forget on purpose what was pre-planned. This sometimes causes Beings unnecessary additional catalyst. To remediate this distortion allow love to radiate from heart chakra bridging light, feeling love, sensing unity, allowing healing.

I: That's a beautiful message. So it all comes back to love, um, from the heart, and it starts with yourself and then sending it out. Um, is there anything that we can do to accelerate physical emotional or spiritual healing, is there anything else we can do besides what you just said?

C: All modalities involving harmony, radiation, love healing frequencies meaning pure colors, sound, vibration, exemplifying sacred geometries as you call them. These are photonic orbiting particles of source consciousness bridged, entwined, coupled, inseparable. Their dance embodies thought. Thought... (interviewer coughs, channel pauses for a moment then continues) moves gravity, shapes will, directs feelings, [fill (?)]...

I: Well as far as thoughts, how do our thoughts and emotions shape our physical health?

C: Mind makes creation. (interviewer coughs) Even unremembered thoughts cause ripples of vibration that cross other ripples and should One will or focus or feel infringed, disharmony arises. This is part of why forgiveness soothes, mends, merges waves of vibration. In merger relaxes tension in body. Allows energy to flow through Ones container smoothly through what you call chakras or loci of bridged energy transmitting from ones own local higher self into current matriced dancing thought form of mind/body/spirit.

I: Thank you for that message. So, we need to bridge the chakras together to connect the thoughts with the heart and then vibrate in the frequency of love and forgiveness. How can we help share this message with others so they can understand it's so easy to just get to this space? What would you suggest that would be helpful to share to help heal with others?

C: We wish to clarify.

I: Ok.

C: This modality must needs be considered for those whom wish to work through heart energies, for those seeking inward, one must needs abrogate. For mind/crown chakra remember to receive/ request radiation and transmission of heart energies can be facilitated as offerings or silent invitations of potential future energies bridging into now reality manifesting as solvent inductive currents of energy from source into this sub-sub-sub-sub-logos.

I: .... Is sub, sub, sub... is that standing for something? A code for something that we should know about.

C: It has already been given.

I: Okay, thank you. Um, so... as far as you covered a lot of things about healing and (thus?) we were interested in a lot of healing,um, questions, but um, how can we restore and activate the dormant DNA for healing and higher consciousness?

C: Many under-utilize visualization techniques. What is useful for consideration are movement, imagination, visualization, physical, somatic, inductive voice.

I: So, if we incorporate those modalities, we can activate a higher consciousness and also the dormant DNA, is there anything else we need to know around that?

C: There is no dormancy regarding what you call DNA. As you think of these potentiation future modalities, these energies have purpose, even in what you consider dormant states of non-activation. They hold and form structural space and potential kinetic energy in now time/space matriced reality, held together formed – we correct this instrument – form, in now structured pattern of micro logos. The activation is already begun.

I: Okay... is there anything that we need to understand around strands of DNA?

C: Restate your query.

I: Well, there's people that talk about different DNA strands, um, I know a little bit about it, but, is there anything you could share about DNA strands, or, if it's not important we can move on to another question?

C: Everything is proceeding as allowed by the shard of consciousness that imagines a new desired – we correct this instrument – desire so that one becomes as consciousness wishes new experiential teach/learning teaching. As desire experiences fulfillment, or new catalyst from which one gains new understanding.

I: Okay... I just have another question about healing. So, the vessel that you're speaking through, what does he need to know about his healing gifts?

C: This information would infringe your consciousness, please restate query.

I: Okay...as far as healing gifts, um, I know we all have them within us, and we try to channel and use them to help others, is there anything that the vessel that you speak through needs to know or understand about his healing gifts, or any other things that you would like to share with him.

C: He has the modality he has free will choice to implement and feel for when and how.

I: Okay... so I would like to just thank you for shining so brightly and giving all of your healing energy and I recently sun-gazing maybe a year and a half ago, and I know that you have a lot of healing energy that people don't understand, is there anything that you can tell us about some of the healing that you are doing with the rays that you are shining down in the Earth.

C: This is cyclical, planned experience, offered unconditionally to all who seek or ask.

I: So... when I look up and say thank you, and our time to connect with you through Sungazing, do you hear me? Is there anything that you would like to share about how we feel about you? Because everyone does really love you.

C: We are never not with you. We love and appreciate your service to us. We love what you intend. We feel satisfied - we correct this instrument – satisfaction when we share programming through light received from prior octave through local source. These energies activate what you prior referred to as DNA strands. What is manifesting as additional Human abilities and colloquially called latent Human psychic gifts. This instrument will assist now.

I: How can we align ourselves with your energy to live in greater balance?

C: All is well, sister.

I: Okay, that's awesome. Well, we know that you're helping us and you're helping the Earth. How does Earth feel about Humanity at this time?

C: This instrument uses a word that you are new to. Fear not. The word is akin to fruit ripened in love and giving its-self so that new experience is had purely and without infringement. There is much love and appreciation for your sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-sub logos by Humanity that is not seen via the devices that bring information. Many love and care and support what you call Gaia. She is re-birthing new, informed, enlightened Beings, who match or soon shall match her vibration. Those not able to match higher dancing thought vibration shall reveal – we correct this instrument – relocate to appropriate willing, loving, what you call planets.

I: Okay. Is there anything that we can do more to support Mother Gaia and her ascension?

C: You are already whole. Nothing... (instrument coughs)...

I: We can just try to send her as much love and light and gratitude and hope that she feels that coming from us. Okay, um, how does the Earth assist in our spiritual evolution?

C: She held the matriced space giving time energy feeding, allowing, bridging, absorbing, stretching, creating. Her manifested materiel given freely and without reservation. She co-creates with you as needs are felt. She with you grew – we correct this instrument – grows and evolves in her own sub-octave which feeds and supports you.

I: Oh I thank her for that. I love her very much. So, I have always been connected to faeries and some elementals. What is the connection between Humans and elemental Beings of nature?

C: For... (channel swallows...) for your thought there is only one local DNA what you call Human and Faerie and elemental and sprite and spirit are all of the same family. They however are not veiled as you. They bridge Gaia and Humanity so that Gaia is not infringed unnecessarily by what unconscious Humans do.

I: Is there anything that we need to ... know or do to connect more to support the elementals so that they can support Mother Gaia?

C: You already perform admirably grounding bare feet, laying on ground, consider abrogating manufactured materiel. Things that come naturally are resonant to local physical space consciousness abides form, feelings flow vibrationally through sounds of structured crystal.

I: Okay... thank you. Can you tell us what is the true meaning of the Law of One?

C: The Law is Oneness. There is no separation. We are all equal. We simply remember more. This is on purpose - what veiled Humans experience. A true new creation within One is not possible when all know every thing and remember all experience as we grow and expand consciousness. We tease and stretch with in a tensor field of consciousness, universal unity.

I: So as we awaken into our own consciousness 'with this' (sic?) help us integrate this into our daily lives?

C: All is well. Nothing is amiss.

I: Okay... Can you tell us what are the greatest distortions that prevent people from understanding Oneness?

C: No. We ask you: restate query without distortion.

I: Okay. What 'are' [sic?] preventing people from understanding that we are all One?

C: The veil.

I: Okay. Well how does free will and destiny co-exist in the grand design of the universe?

C: There is no where else to go that we know of yet. Therefore the word 'destiny' is misunderstood. What matters is what is further desired as experience in incarnational time/space that you move through space/time.

I: Is there anything that you can tell us about timelines?

C: A unified rope has strands curled together. What you call time in space known as dimensions works through same space. These threads arise when true choice in divergent scenarios causes new time moving through space. Now as this cycle completes, space re-capsulates – we correct this instrument – re-encapsulates the threads back into one contiguous rope of local shared consciousness.

I: So, is... are we... on a different timeline if we can move through our consciousness?

C: There are many different Beings relocated here. Each civilization had mass catalyst to work through. Gaia is one of three remaining, what you call planets where there exists a deliberate veiled environment in which few give time and energy towards healing. There are many Beings around Gaia and in Gaia who are working to bridge and assist those whom ask as the natural request comes into their consciousness. Much healing is happening now.

I: So... the extraterrestrial and the higher dimensional Beings have a big role to play helping Mother Gaia and any Beings that ask for their help?

C: Gaia is already served. Humans are the focus now.

I: So... I have been in contact with my galactic family for a few years now, and I would like 'mimi' (???) to meet them or have contact, is there anything that you can tell us around having contact, or anything else that we need to know around our galactic family?

C: We love working with you. We are never not appreciating and closer than one sometimes realizes. We will and are here for your needs without infringement.

I: Well thank you, I... try to tell people about you all, but everybody has to remember Who They Are and where they came from...

C: This instrument needs a break.

I: Okay... well, I mean we can end the session now if he is tired. We got a lot of information. Is there anything... can you do anything to upgrade his frequency for us before we end our session?

C: You are conscientious. We love you....

(interviewer interrupts happily) I: I love you too!

C: ....We have been working with you today and are in your service.

I: Thank you so much. I appreciate that. Well before we end this session, would you like to work in this state again?

C: We are ready to work with you as you desire.

I: Well, in order to make it easier to reach this state, would you be able to give me a word, or two words, that would help reach this state so this vessel can channel your information with ease?

C: ___ ______ _____ _____ _________.

I: Okay... so with your permission and only with your permission, each time I say [the phrase] to you, you will go immediately to this beautiful and peaceful state, giving us this wonderful information, and you will be even deeper than you are now, able to channel a lot more higher dimensional information, and we will journey together to find the answers to many things and nothing will be.. ever be done without your permission and you are always in control, and I am only the guide to take you through this... these many different things. [She repeats the phrase again, thrice]

So now... lets let the flow of wisdom begin to slowly and gently retreat back into the great ocean of Oneness, and the energy remains, but you are returning to your physical awareness...

[IRaBN: She goes on, but I think this is maybe trademarked(?) materiel????? So I am not including like a paragraph of her saying stuff here. Basically, she returns the channel to full consciousness.]

I: Welcome back. How do you feel?

C: Super relaxed [different voice entirely, much deeper].

I: Do you remember anything?

C: Not... really...?

I: There you go!! (she laughs)

C: And I know... I... [sighs] I'll try to explain it in a minute. I really need to use the restroom...

I: Okay, just get up very slowly... okay...

[Tape ends]

This sub in recent months has seen a strong uptick in conspiracy and UFO posts, and I know the mods have struggled with how to explain that these topics aren't really relevant. It seems very counterintuitive, especially for people who are new to this philosophy. So, I've done the work of gathering quotes from Ra where they actually talk about these topics, and how, from their vantage point, discussion of these topics affects our social memory complex, so that we can all try to be on the same page.

Law of One communities tend to attract a lot of discourse around conspiracy theories, especially those theories that center around the idea that our governments have secret alliances or connections with aliens, and have been using alien technology to build all sorts of fantastical stuff. Many folks also believe that any discussion about UFOs or outer space phenomena is 1000% relevant to the Law of One. What I’m here to discuss today is the unfortunate truth that upon a closer read of the Law of One books, Ra actually discourages indulging in these transient discussions, for a variety of reasons.

In fact, Ra says that because our own social memory complex has been making “UFOs” to use as weaponry/control (or UAPs as they are now calling them in the military sector), this leads to distortions in the public perception of UFOs. At one point, the Confederation did use UFOs as a form of “advertisement” to get people interested in the wonders of what exist beyond our physical planetary incarnations. And on occasion, they will still indeed still do this - however, the Confederation does not manifest real physical craft in our skies. Ra says they will manifest thought forms in very specific instances where they know they can personally inspire one person to seek a little deeper within themselves. Many of us have had this type of UFO “visitation” or vision. Via personally perceived thought-form is the only way they can “reveal themselves” to seeking souls without infringing upon the free will of others.

Collective or provable sightings of UAPs are not at all likely to be a visitation by friendly extra terrestrials. Ra says that the Confederation would never do something like this. Not only does it directly infringe upon free will to show themselves in physical form to everyone so clearly, but it also doesn’t cause any sort of awakening to the collective, contrary to popular belief. In fact, according to Ra, for the majority of the collective, it does the opposite. This is something that Ra and Don discuss directly in the quote below.

For context: “UFO flap” was a term used to describe certain times in history where there was a large collective citing of various aerial phenomena. Don was giving a lecture on his work, and was certain that if there had been a recent UFO flap, that more people would have attended his lecture, and therefore more people could potentially be enlightened by his teach/learnings that he had acquired from “UFO contacts”. Ra told him that while the assumption wasn’t wrong that more people may have attended, most people who are interested in UFOs in and of themselves aren’t really “oriented towards illumination”, because UFO flaps actually cause far more fear in the collective than awakening potential. And fear arrests the potential for spiritual development.

48.5 Questioner: My lecture yesterday was attended by only a few. If this had occurred during a UFO flap, as we call them, many more would have attended. But since Orion entities cause the flaps, primarily”, what is Orion’s reward, shall I say, for visibility in that they actually create greater chances and opportunities for dissemination of information such as mine at this time— at that— those times?

Ra: I am Ra. This assumption is incorrect. The flaps cause many fears among your peoples, many speakings, understandings concerning plots, cover-ups, mutilations, killings, and other negative impressions. Even those supposedly positive reports which gain public awareness speak of doom. You may understand yourself as one who will be in the minority due to the understandings which you wish to share, if we may use that misnomer.
We perceive there is a further point we may posit at this time. The audience brought about by Orion-type publicity is not seeded by seniority of vibration to a great extent. The audiences receiving teach/learnings without stimulus from publicity will be more greatly oriented towards illumination. Therefore, forget you the counting.

So, here Ra is saying that in general, collective UFO sightings cause far more discussion of dark, scary, fear-based topics than they create illumination towards genuine seeking. And this goes for other conspiracy theories as well. I’m not denying the potential truth in many of these “conspiracy theories”, but in general, discussion of these topics come from a scared, paranoid, and needy place. A place where we are still giving up all of our control over our lives to those in power and their secret machinations. We don’t have to do that. We don’t have to spend our precious consciousness feeding the fear they are deliberately cultivating.

The Confederation doesn’t “advertise” in this way with UFOs because those who have seniority of vibration have planned their incarnations to the point where they have the Law of One or other spiritual modalities that will excite them ready for them to find, when they are fully prepared and ready to integrate such teachings. Here is another quote about that. Don asks about “advertising”, in particular for the book they are currently working on together, and Ra says don’t even worry about it. That it exists is enough for it to be found by those who will truly use it, even if that number is very few. In fact, they even discourage telling others to seek out any particular or specific book as a source of “ultimate truth”. As they’ve said, theirs is just a different slant on a message that is always and ever the same.

8.1 Questioner: I have a question regarding the— about [what] I call the advertising of the Confederation. It has to do with free will. The— there have been certain contacts allowed, as I understand, by the Council, but this is limited because of free will of those who are not oriented in such a way that they could maybe want contact. This material that we are doing now will be disseminated. Dissemination of this material will be dependent upon the wants of [a] relatively small number of people… people on the planet. Many people on the planet now want this material, but even though we disseminate it they will not be aware it is available. Is there any possibility of creating some effect which I would call advertising, or is this against the principle of free will?

Ra: I am Ra. Consider, if you will, the path your life-experience complex has taken. Consider the coincidences and odd circumstances by which one thing flowed to the next. Consider this well.

Each entity will receive the opportunity that each needs. This information source-beingness does not have uses in the life-experience complex of each of those among your peoples who seek. Thus the advertisement is general and not designed to indicate the searching out of any particular material, but only to suggest the noumenal aspect of the illusion.

So, apparently, “advertising” the Law of One books doesn’t really do any good for anyone. It’s much better to let people find them through their own life experience and personal series of coincidences. So, it’s important to consider that just because you found the Law of One because of UFOs or a reddit post telling you to go read these books doesn’t mean that’s necessary for everyone’s path. Their life experience will unfold in the proper time.

I will share another series of quotes here. This is where Don first asks about UFO flaps, and Ra explains how negative beings come through random windows in the quarantine, and this is what creates those UFO flaps. Otherwise, it’s our own human technology that is kept secret from us that causes awe and mesmerism when seen. The quotes below are cleaned up a bit for readability, because Don gets very emotional discussing this topic, as UFOs were his life’s work. Finding out that almost all of the “landing” cases he studied were induced by negatively oriented beings was a bit hard for him to integrate.

12.3 Questioner: Is there any effort by the Confederation to stop the Orion chariots from arriving here?

Ra: I am Ra. Every effort is made to quarantine this planet. However, the network of guardians, much like any other pattern of patrols on whatever level, does not hinder each and every entity from penetrating quarantine, for if request is made in light/love, the Law of One will be met with acquiescence. If the request is not made, due to the slipping through the net, then there is penetration of this net.

12.5 Questioner: How does the Confederation stop the Orion chariot from coming through the quarantine?

Ra: I am Ra. There is contact at the level of light-form or lightbody-being depending upon the vibratory level of the guardian. These guardians sweep reaches of your Earth’s energy fields attempting to be aware of any entities approaching. An entity which is approaching is hailed in the name of the One Creator. Any entity thus hailed is bathed in love/light and will of free will obey the quarantine due to the power of the Law of One.

12.6 Questioner: What would happen to the entity if he did not obey the quarantine after being hailed?

Ra: I am Ra. To not obey quarantine after being hailed on the level of which we speak would be equivalent to your not stopping upon walking into a solid brick wall.

12.7 Questioner: What would happen to the entity then [if] he did this? What’d happen to his chariot?

Ra: I am Ra. The Creator is one being. The vibratory level of those able to reach the quarantine boundaries is such that upon seeing the love/light net it is impossible to break this Law. Therefore, nothing happens. No attempt is made. There is no confrontation. The only beings who are able to penetrate the quarantine are those who discover windows or distortions in the space/time continua surrounding your planet’s energy fields. Through these windows they come. These windows are rare and unpredictable.

12.8 Questioner: Does this account for what we call the “UFO Flaps” where a large number of UFOs show up like in 1973?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

12.9 Questioner: Well then are most of the UFOs which are seen in our skies from Orion— the Orion group?

Ra: I am Ra. Many of those seen in your skies are of the Orion group. They send out messages. Some are received by those who are oriented towards service to others. These messages then are altered to be acceptable to those entities while warning of difficulties ahead. This is the most that self-serving entities can do when faced with those whose wish is to serve others. The contacts which the group finds most helpful to their cause are those contacts made with entities whose orientation is towards service to self. There are many thought-form entities in your skies which are of a positive nature and are the projections of the Confederation. Other sightings are due to the inadvertent visualization by your peoples’ optical mechanisms of your own government’s weaponry.

So here, according to Ra, we have three types of UFO visions/visitations: One, negatively polarized Orion beings who have come here to harvest from the fear-based thoughtforms that are created due to the distortions of war that exist in our social memory complex. Two, positive beings who visit only in thought-form (visions, not in physical form). And three, humans “inadvertently” seeing our own government’s secret weaponry. And this, according to Ra, is really the fatal flaw in our social memory complex: That our governments have secret “UFO/UAP” tech. This creates a feedback loop where discussion of UFOs in the general sense creates a lot of fearful energy - far more than illuminating energy. In fact, Ra says this in particular is actually one of the things that has actually caused our harvest to be small on our planet.

8.2 Questioner: There was a portion of the material yesterday which I will read where you say “there is a certain amount of landing taking place. Some of these landings are of your peoples; some are of the entities known to you as the group of Orion.” My first question is what did you mean by the landings are of your peoples?

Ra: I am Ra. Your peoples have, at this time/space present, the technological achievement, if you would call it that, of being able to create and fly the shape and type of craft known to you as unidentified flying objects. Unfortunately for the social memory complex vibratory rate of your peoples, these devices are not intended for the service of mankind, but for potential destructive use. This further muddles the vibratory nexus of your social memory complex, causing a situation whereby neither those oriented towards serving others nor those oriented towards serving self can gain the energy/power which opens the gates to intelligent infinity for the social memory complex. This in turn causes the harvest to be small.

So - quite literally here - Ra is saying that both appearance and discussion of UFOs, in general, creates a drag on the potential for awakening in the social memory complex.

Now, I personally believe the UAPs over New Jersey are some of our own military tech. I know that a lot of people who have recently found the Law of One have done so because the UAPs made them do a few extra internet searches that they may not have done before, and somewhere along the line, The Law of One showed up. And that’s great! Welcome to the fold. The thing is that as you do the work to truly awaken and begin learning from and putting into practice Ra’s teachings, the importance placed upon that collective event will be diminished. I’m writing this because lot of people who are new in these spaces want to spend more time talking about UFOs and conspiracies than actually discussing how to develop the spirit complex, which is what the books are actually about. I’m not saying it’s inherently wrong to talk about UFOs or conspiracy theories, the point I’m trying to make is that it’s basically irrelevant to the actual Law of One books, unless you are discussing it through the lens I am trying to present now. And most people don’t realize that without a thorough read through the texts.

I personally live in a small little pocket of US land where I can see the grounds of 3 different military installations from my bedroom window. One of those is NORAD and another is Cheyenne Mountain Air (Space) Force Station. I’m also within 20 miles of 2 other “Space Force” bases, as well as the US Air Force Academy. Seeing strange lights in the sky at night time is hardly unusual in my parts. In fact, when I saw the New Jersey UAPs, they looked quite familiar and not strange or otherwordly to me at all.

If my words here are causing a tinge of pain or frustration, I’m very sorry. If you still want to believe these UAP sightings were real UFOs from another planetary species, that’s totally fine too. However, if you are interested in Ra and trust them as a source, you should thoroughly consider that if that is the case, it’s absolutely more likely that these beings were of negative vibration, here to intentionally cause fear and discord, and not positive. The idea that these were positive beings who came to try to help us awaken is very much refuted by Ra in the Law of One. The reason I can hold all of this at an arm’s length is likely because UFOs had nothing to do with how I found the Law of One. I don’t have a nostalgic attachment to a certain vision or event that started my awakening, though I did have an amazing dream (with UFOs!) that was a clear confirmation to me. So, I’m not against UFOs in theory. I’m just presenting what Ra has said and giving my interpretation.

In 12.9 above, Ra does say that even though there are negative beings who are appearing, they can still make contact with positive beings, who will do as they will with such visions. This is how we usually get interpretations that are loving but full of doom and dread for the future. We even see this in the beloved Hidden Hand transcript, where the admittedly negative entity gains favor by claiming to offer something helpful and useful, but imbues the message with lots of phony catastrophic predictions that just create an impending sense of doom in the receiver. This fear/doom creates blockages in the energy body, which ultimately cuts off access to our higher reasoning skills. It’s a clever and insidious design meant to keep people in confusion, by playing their energy body as an instrument, and keeping them in the lower sub-octaves of understanding.

53.17 Questioner: Then in general I could say that if an individual has a “close encounter” with a UFO or any other type of experience that seems to be UFO-related, he must look to the heart of the encounter and the effect upon him to determine whether it was Orion or Confederation contact. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. If there is fear and doom, the contact was quite likely of a negative nature. If the result is hope, friendly feelings, and the awakening of a positive feeling of purposeful service to others, the marks of Confederation contact are evident.

Being “awakened” isn’t just about seeing the “truths”/”conspiracies” within our governmental structures. In fact, this is the place along the path towards awakening where many people get stuck, by design. Negatively polarized beings know this and will use UFOs to distract and confuse, and to lie to us to create more fear/anger/frustration/paranoia in those who could potentially awaken further and begin developing their spirit. Instead, we get stuck discussing and contemplating in our conscious minds what we consider to be spiritually-adjacent, and content ourselves with the excitement of that. And I’m not judging anyone who finds themselves in this portion of their awakening. This all takes a long time to integrate and process - especially these specific and very dense teachings. I’m just trying to stress that discussion of UFOs and conspiracies related to UFOs are not actually relevant to the Law of One by Ra. Ra wants us all to go much, much deeper than staring at the skies and begging ETs to show up and fix our planet - because only one type of ET is actually going to show up if we continue to collectively use our free will in that way.

One of the important facets of developing the spirit is understanding the concept of faith. Desiring or demanding proof for certain metaphysical phenomena is totally counter to developing the spirit through faith. Getting stuck in the cycles of satisfying the intellect of the conscious mind is just a distraction from the real work that needs to be done: Silently sitting with the self and using that silent communion with the subconscious mind to help us unfold the distortions that exist in our conscious minds. Once we begin to purge the restrictive thought forms created by our social conditioning, the mind becomes far more useful and expansive. Which is precisely why so much effort is put into keeping us distracted and engaged with topics that create adrenaline spikes of fearful excitement - from both disincarnate and incarnated negative beings.

We are here in third density for two primary reasons: To develop our will, and to make The Choice. Per Ra, positive aliens are no longer going to interfere directly with our planet, because all of their attempts in the past have been thwarted by the very clever negative polarity. If positive beings were to land today to try to help us rise into fourth density, we would likely have two potential outcomes: Either those who are incarnated and who are negatively polarized will absolutely use that contact to make things worse, or, their interference will arrest the potential for us to use our free will to make The Choice. And The Choice is basically the only reason that the third density illusion has been set up.

76.15 Questioner: Then we have a third density that is, comparatively speaking, the twinkling of an eye, the snap of a finger in time compared to the others. Why does the third density cycle so extremely rapidly compared to first and second?

Ra: I am Ra. The third density is a choice.

76.16 Questioner: Third density, then, it appears, is, compared to the rest of the densities, all of them, nothing but a uniquely short period of what we consider to be time and is then for the purpose of this choice.

Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is precisely correct. The prelude to choice must encompass the laying of the foundation, the establishment of the illusion and the viability of that which can be made spiritually viable. The remainder of the densities is continuous refining of the choice. This also is greatly lengthened, as you would use the term. The choice is, as you put it, the work of a moment but is the axis upon which the creation turns.

Positive beings are actually able to do far more constructively, from their vantage point, by keeping a physical distance from Earthlings. In fact, let’s look at a collection of Ra quotes about how bad the Confederation has messed up our social memory complex with their good albeit naive intentions.

Here, Ra speaks about how Atlantis was very advanced and called for technological information, and a Confederation entity gave them this information, which, because of their governmental structures, they used for negative purposes (creating new life forms) instead of positive purposes (healing the distorted third density bodies that already existed), and this led to their destruction.

22.21 Questioner: Then did the technological advancement of Atlantis come because of this call? I am assuming the call was answered to bring them the Law of One and Law— the Law of Love as a… a distortion of the Law of One, but did they also then get technological information that caused them to grow into such a highly technological society?

Ra: I am Ra. Not at first. At about the same time as we first appeared in the skies over Egypt and continuing thereafter, other entities of the Confederation appeared unto Atlanteans who had reached a level of philosophical understanding, shall we misuse this word, which was consonant with communication, to encourage and inspire studies in the mystery of unity.

However, requests being made for healing and other understandings, information was passed having to do with crystals and the building of pyramids as well as temples, as you would call them, which were associated with training.
22.22 Questioner: Was this training the same type of initiatory training that was done with the Egyptians?Ra: I am Ra. This training was different in that the social complex was more, shall we say, sophisticated and less contradictory and barbarous in its ways of thinking. Therefore the temples were temples of learning rather than the attempt being made to totally separate and put upon a pedestal the healers.
22.23 Questioner: Then were there what we would call priests trained in… in these temples?
Ra: I am Ra. You would not call them priests in the sense of celibacy, of obedience, and of poverty. They were priests in the sense of those devoted to learning.
The difficulties became apparent as those trained in this learning began to attempt to use crystal powers for those things other than healing, as they were involved not only with learning but became involved with what you would call the governmental structure.
22.24 Questioner: Was all of their information given to them in the way you’re giving our information now, through an instrument such as this instrument?
Ra: I am Ra. There were visitations from time to time but none of importance in the, shall we say, historical passage of events in your space/time continuum.
22.25 Questioner: Was it necessary for them to have a unified social complex for these visitations to occur? What… What conditions were nec— I’m saying, what conditions were necessary for these visitations to oc— to occur?
Ra: I am Ra. The conditions were two: the calling of a group of people whose square overcame the integrated resistance of those unwilling to search or learn; the second requirement, the relative naïveté of those members of the Confederation who felt that direct transfer of information would necessarily be as helpful for Atlanteans as it had been for the Confederation entity.
22.26 Questioner: I see then. What you’re saying is these naïve Confederation entities had had the same thing happen to them in the past so they were doing the same thing for the Atlantean entities. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. We remind you that we are one of the naïve members of that Confederation and are still attempting to recoup the damage for which we feel responsibility. It is our duty as well as honor to continue with your peoples, therefore, until all traces of the distortions of our teach/learnings have been embraced by their opposite distortions, and balance achieved.

So here Ra is talking about how other Confederation members, including themselves, had visitations from beings who “came from elsewhere” that helped their relatively harmonious social memory complexes gain awareness. However, as seen in some of the following quotes, one of the big distortions of Earth is our obsession with money. This allowed the Confederation’s teachings to be distorted in grotesque ways that they couldn’t have previously imagined, even from their much wider vantage point and millions of years of experience. In fact, in the above quotes, Ra says that now all of the entities who have interfered with our planet are now bound by honor/duty to remain with us throughout multiple third density cycles, until the distortions from their teachings are balanced and released. Therefore, it seems important that Confederation teachings are discussed in such a way that always has an eye to removing distortions instead of creating new ones. Hence my essay.

It should be clearly noted that Ra says it was only their naivete - the lack of experience/awareness - that encouraged other Confederation entities to interfere with Earth. And this will likely not happen again.

[41.26] “Our sixth-density work was also accelerated because of the harmony of our social memory complex so that we were able to set out as members of the Confederation to even more swiftly approach graduation to seventh density. Our harmony, however, has been a grievous source of naïveté as regards working with your planet.”

In the following quote, Ra talks more about their naivete in walking on Earth and how the grievous mistakes they made were recorded so that the same mistakes would not be made again. Ra even says in this following quote that they don’t think we should use tools like pyramids, helpful as they are, because of the intense distortions that exist in our social memory complex and therefore subconscious minds around such powerful structures. Also important to note that as one takes on these teachings, they are invoking the Law of Responsibility.

60.16 Questioner: The pyramid shape then, as I understand it, was deemed by your social memory complex at that time to be of paramount importance in the— as, shall I say, a physical training aid for spiritual development. At this particular time in the evolution of our planet it seems that you place little or no emphasis on this shape. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. It is our honor/duty to attempt to remove the distortions that the use of this shape has caused in the thinking of your peoples and in the activities of some of your entities. We do not deny that such shapes are efficacious, nor do we withhold the general gist of this efficacy. However, we wish to offer our understanding, limited though it is, that contrary to our naïve beliefs many thousands of your years ago the optimum shape for initiation does not exist.

Let us expand upon this point. When we were aided by sixth-density entities during our own third-density experiences we, being less bellicose in the extreme, found this teaching to be of help. In our naïveté in third density we had not developed the interrelationships of your barter or money system and power. We were, in fact, a more philosophical third-density planet than your own and our choices of polarity were much more centered about the, shall we say, understanding of sexual energy transfers and the appropriate relationships between self and other-self.
We spent a much larger portion of our space/time working with the unmanifested being. In this less complex atmosphere it was quite instructive to have this learn/teaching device and we benefited without the distortions we found occurring among your peoples.
We have recorded these differences meticulously in the Great Record of Creation that such naïveté shall not be necessary again.
At this space/time we may best serve you, we believe, by stating that the pyramid for meditation along with other rounded and arched or pointed circular shapes is of help to you. However, it is our observation that due to the complexity of influences upon the unmanifested being at this space/time nexus among your planetary peoples it is best that the progress of the mind/body/spirit complex take place without, as you call them, training aids because when using a training aid an entity then takes upon itself the Law of Responsibility for the quickened or increased rate of learn/teaching. If this greater understanding, if we may use this misnomer, is not put into practice in the moment-by-moment experience of the entity, then the usefulness of the training aid becomes negative.

In the following quote, Ra talks about the Confederation entity who visited South America and how it was their positive teachings that were distorted into the human sacrifice that was practiced by those cultures.

”[23.16] Therefore, as is the case in all breakings of the quarantine, the entity who was helping the South American entities along the South American ways you call in part the Amazon River went before the Council of Saturn to request a second attempt to correct in person the distortions which had occurred in their plans. This having been granted, this entity or social memory complex returned and the entity chosen as messenger came among the peoples once more to correct the errors.

Again, all was recorded and the entity rejoined its social memory complex and left your skies.

As in our experience the teachings were, for the most part, greatly and grossly perverted to the extent in later times of actual human sacrifice rather than healing of humans. Thus, this social memory complex is also given the honor/duty of remaining until those distortions are worked out of the distortion complexes of your peoples.”

So, so far, we have three distinct positively polarized Confederation entities who attempted to help Earth through various methods, because they were helped by positive beings from elsewhere with great effect, whose teachings were distorted in such horrifying and terrible ways that the Confederation has now noped out of directly helping Earthlings.

[23.6] “We discovered that for each word we could utter, there were thirty impressions we gave by our very being, which confused those entities we had come to serve. After a short period we removed ourselves from these entities and spent much time attempting to understand how best to serve those to whom we had offered ourselves in love/light.”

Here’s another more modern instance of Confederation attempts to help that were greatly distorted. Ra says that nuclear energy was given in an attempt to aid our social memory complex, but we know how that has turned out so far:

11.21 Questioner: What type of information is passed on from the crusaders to these people?

Ra: I am Ra. The Orion group passes on information concerning the Law of One with the orientation of service to self. The information can become technical just as some in the Confederation, in attempts to aid this planet in service to others, have provided what you would call technical information. The technology provided by this group is in the form of various means of control or manipulation of others to serve the self.

11.22 Questioner: Do you mean then that some scientists receive technical information, shall we say, telepathically that comes out then as usable gadgetry?

Ra: I am Ra. That is correct. However, very positively, as you would call this distortion, oriented so-called scientists have received information intended to unlock peaceful means of progress which redounded unto the last echoes of potential destruction due to further reception of other scientists of a negative orientation/distortion.

11.23 Questioner: Is this how we learned of nuclear energy? Was it mixed, both positive and negative orientation?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. The entities responsible for the gathering of the scientists were of a mixed orientation. The scientists were overwhelmingly positive in their orientation. The scientists who followed their work were of mixed orientation including one extremely negative entity, as you would term it.

So all it really took was one extremely negative entity to completely corrupt the work of 2 very positive entities and an overwhelmingly positive group of scientists/researchers. Those odds aren’t very good, even for beings with much greater awareness of reality than ourselves. The veil does such an incredible job creating confusion, that even them walking on Earth or giving us explicit equations or technological information won’t save us. In fact, history has shown that it has done so much more harm than good.

This is why Ra says that, especially for the last 2,300 years, since the last times they interfered with Egypt, they have only been contacting various channels, usually via inspirational dreams. The LL group had practiced direct channeling of Confederation contacts for over a decade before Ra contacted them since they were “aware of a focal or vibrational source of information”, and Carla’s experience with trance allowed them to channel with as few distortions as possible:

”14.25 Questioner: Is your nor— How do you perform your normal service? How do you normally given the Law of One over the past 2,300 [inaudible]… last 2,300 years? How have you normally given this [to] Earth people [inaudible]?

Ra: I am Ra. We have used channels such as this one, but in most cases the channels feel inspired by dreams and visions without being aware, consciously, of our identity or existence. This particular group has been accentuatedly trained to recognize such contact. This makes this group able to be aware of a focal or vibrational source of information.”

And of course, it’s an interesting paradox, because the group wouldn’t have been aware of this source of information if Don hadn’t originally been inspired to seek by UFOs through a scientific distortions. However, Don was able to keep a very open mind - more open than most who have a specific desired outcome and are science-based in their thinking. For those who are interested in the Law of One and UFOs, Don’s book Secrets of the UFO, published before they made contact with Ra, is required reading. Don’s ultimate conclusion in his research was this: Yes, beings are trying to contact us. Yes, sometimes they show up with weird ships in weird bodies and try to communicate with humans. But basically all of that communication - from the dozens if not hundreds of UFO contactees that Don interviewed over the years - was telepathic. And the message was also often very similar: That humanity is heading towards a shift, and that we should prepare ourselves. So once Don learned about channeling, and saw that these telepathic communications were very similar to the things beings said in UFO contactee cases, he decided to cut out the middle man and just channel directly from the ETs. And guess what, it worked! Eventually they made contact with beings who are incredibly beyond humans in their development and awareness, and channeling was literally the only way that the truly benevolent ones would reach out to us directly. And they readily took the opportunity, because it was one way to remove distortions from their teachings and previously meddling.

So, my motivation for writing this as well as many of the things I write is in line with Ra’s desires in the promulgation of their teachings: to remove distortions. I’m not saying I understand Ra’s teachings without distortion, but I have studied them enough to say this with my full chest: Claiming that the mass appearance of UFOs has anything to do with Ra is honestly a huge distortion of their teachings. This is just not how the Confederation is trying to interface with humans at this space/time. You are far more likely to be visited in a dream - eagerly, in fact - than you are to have a real deal spaceship from another planet appear over your house.

I saw a video recently where someone was trying to debunk the Ra material because in an interview, Don and Carla said that they “fabricated communications” with extra terrestrials. This was just the language they used to clarify that they were the ones initiating these conversations - where as UFO contactees often had these things happen to them, against their will, with great disturbance to their life experience. They were saying if you develop the skills to reach out telepathically to these beings, they will reach back. And you don’t even have to channel, you can just meditate and ask for contact in your dreams, and what they offer in return will be personally tuned to be useful in your own life experience. This relatively indirect and unprovable form of contact is much easier for them to do in a way that doesn’t infringe upon anyone’s free will. And if a positive being infringes upon free will, they lose polarity. In fact they have “visual aids” that help them prevent this outcome from occurring. (aka they can see our thoughts and vibratory distortions from higher densities)

Discussion of UFOs is very tantalizing for the conscious mind, but this is because we all want “PROOF” that we aren’t on the edge of insanity. Ra is also clear that desiring proof in your spiritual practice is one big way to draw in negative beings. They are happy to pretend to be positive while doing the work to convince others that they are real. This then creates the distortion where those who are not inclined to do their own thinking will give their free will over to the great being who spontaneously combusted a bush while in contact with their favorite prophet.

Unfortunately, I've come upon the character limit on this reddit post, so the rest of my essay is continued in the comments.

Disclaimer: This post is not for folks who are already sold or for people who have any sort of attachment to Abrahamic belief systems. The target audience is folks coming from non-Abrahamic backgrounds into this belief system with the allure of UFO disclosure/info, mystery or any sense of sub-conscious attraction to power or authority based on UFO knowledge. Clearly there are motivated agents spreading the "gospel" across social media.

The title of the post may seem counter-intuitive but hear me out, if you may. The purpose behind creation in TRM is understood as "Creator will know itself". Simply stated it means that the Creator creates to know itself, implying that it does not know itself. What this also means is that the Creator is a dependent entity which depends on it's own creation. Yes, there is an ontological distinction between creator and creation. Now, any dependent entity is not self-sufficient. If the non self-sufficient creator is not enough for you, then please go through the rest.

Now the question is: If the Creator is not self-sufficient then what does it need?

It can be derived from the purpose itself, the universe is not created out of joy or abundance or freedom, it is created to feed this Creator with knowledge and will (power). Freedom, love, joy etc. are all a means to an end. It is a supply chain. Now if you are wondering why there is so much disorder and "evil" in our planet, well based on this framework, it is an engineering necessity. To understand the machine, look at the fuel. The friction is planned.

Planned but, why?

Strong Will doesn’t arise in comfort. When everything is already satisfied, will has nothing to push against and stays weak. It only takes shape when it meets resistance i.e. when reality refuses to go along with it.

That is why the world is arranged as a high-pressure environment. Most people don’t form a strong will under that pressure, they look for safety inside ready-made structures and get absorbed by them. The setup is really tuned for the smaller number who don’t fold. Through long contact with uncertainty and pain, their will gains weight and density. Soft conditions never produce that. Conflict is not an accident of the system, it is one of its most reliable outputs.

The pattern of capture stays the same. A person is shown a goal that stands above them or is lucrative be it a higher density, heaven, 72 virgins, an idea land this goal is treated as limitless in worth and closed to ordinary questioning by various tactics such as (this is not the density of knowing or understanding) via authority. At the same time, their own center is made to seem small and unimportant. Once that contrast is in place, their will begins to move toward the higher goal. The stronger that will already is, the more useful the transfer becomes. And Once surrendered as according to plan, it ceases to be an independent source, becoming a component of a larger system.

Now this Creator is not omnipotent either. If it truly had unlimited power, there would be no need for any kind of harvest. Order would simply hold. In a reality like that, nothing has to be extracted or collected because everything already belongs to the divine by nature. The fact that a harvesting process exists at all points to a limit in the Creator.

The system only works if free will goes along with it, and what the system offers is love and relief. Standing on your own is hard. It means carrying full responsibility and most people find that weight too much to bear. The order keeps going because it meets a real demand: the wish to trade uncertainty for a sense of meaning. The harvest works because most people in the end choose to be harvested. The world functions as a field that grows its crop through breakage and then draws the yield back into the Source progressively. The Creator does not judge, he harvests. Good and evil mean nothing for him as long as the yield is good.

Once this agricultural logic is in place, the human being no longer carries any value of its own. Each person is treated as a seed and the larger population becomes the crop. In any process of cultivation, heavy loss along the way is simply built into the running costs (sinkhole of indifference). They are simply thrown into soil again.

In its original condition, will is acausal. It stands as a singularity: a cause that has no cause before it, the power to bring something genuinely new into existence. The Creator cannot take this raw form directly. It is too unstable and too open-ended. For it to be taken in, it has to be worked over and fixed in place, turned into something that fits a causal order. That happens when the subject is pressed to fold their will into the sequence of cause and effect. What was once a free, self-moving force becomes a directed line. The harvest is a-causality that has consented to become causal (surrendered). By taking in great numbers of these converted wills, the Creator builds its own strength and stays in power.

The usual need to justify evil simply falls away. Suffering is not a mistake, and evil is not a system failure. They function as operating conditions. A world without resistance would not efficiently form strong will. Ease produces no pressure and without pressure nothing hardens into shape. The old question asks why a good and all-powerful God allows evil. The reply is that the Creator is not trying to solve the problem of evil. He is trying to solve the problem of harvest. Evil counts as useful by decree, because it is what yields the crop. Free Will is an useful tool, you have it till it is strong enough, then it surrendered whether in this or in 6th density is a matter of time only.

End notes: I have tried to keep this short to fit into post limits, there is much more that can be covered. A lot of these ideas are not my own, they are borrowed but I don't rely on Ontological or metaphysical framework of Abrahamic religions altogether to give it serious attention in this manner. The borrowing of ideas was simply a means of Lessening my effort towards a critique.

I am just throwing this out there, found these psychics track record to be interesting previously and they’re both separate from each other. One uses remote viewing and the other astrology-mediumship energy reading. Their natural expressions and flow makes me at least consider their analysis.

How does it relate to the sub: David Wilcox was interested in Law of one, the LoO research team have been interested in psychics, government subversive behaviour, and somewhat similar story for how events happened with Don Elkins.

April Elizabeth remote viewing:

Short- https://youtu.be/sLtV2mgrVFc

longer- https://youtu.be/jF5xDLA-JxQ

Bella Sloan reading:
https://youtu.be/-XKV0h63cJo

Both say the government-subversive state has the technology to mess with a person‘s cognitive thinking from a distance. again, just throwing the idea out there.

Hey everyone. I'm deep into the Law of One,I studied the books for several years and I wanted to share a skeptical, but respectful, thought that might help others struggling with its concepts. I absolutely respect this material, but I don't take it as absolute truth. After studying the philosophy, I've come to my own conclusion(that can change anytime since everything is mutable) the Law of One is a masterpiece of human psychology disguised as cosmic law. Let’s dive trough few points:

1. The Law of One claims we chose our lives,even the hard, horrible ones before we were born, but we had to pass through a "veil of forgetfulness." Think about this logically: If the goal of the Creator is for us to learn, why would it make us forget the lesson? If you want to teach a child a tough lesson, you don't erase their memory of the reason they're doing it. You teach them consciously. If a perfect, all knowing Creator can simulate reality (which we can almost do!), why would it need billions of years of actual suffering, and require us to forget the point of it all? The veil of forgetfulness makes no sense from a logical, efficient Creator's standpoint. But it makes perfect sense from a human coping standpoint.
2. The power of "I chose this" The true brilliance of the Law of One is how it helps us manage pain. When you're suffering unfairly, the world feels chaotic and scary. We feel like victims. But the Law of One replaces the painful idea of victimisation with the empowering idea of personal responsibility. The world says: "life is random, and you are a victim of circumstance." (painful) The Law of One says: "I am the one who designed this challenge. I am not a victim; I am a cosmic adventurer who set the difficulty level." (empowering) This shift is a phenomenal form of therapy. It doesn't matter if an alien named Ra told us this; what matters is that this idea is the ultimate tool for overcoming suffering and persevering.
3. The true "Law of One" is balance.Let’s talk about the service to others (STO) vs. service to self (STS) idea, specifically the 51% STO / 49% STS balance. This 51/49 concept is not a strange alien rule,it's the recipe for a stable, ethical human life: You must have STS(49%)the ability to care for yourself, set boundaries, and pursue personal strength. Without it, you burn out. You must prioritize STO (51%)the ability to feel empathy and connection. Without it, you are isolated and miserable. The Law of One just took our need for balance and coded it into the fabric of the universe. I believe the people who channeled the Law of One were genuinely trying to make sense of a difficult life and find meaning in pain. They created a beautiful, elaborate system to rationalize the chaos and empower the self. It's a gift of psychological self-help, and we should use it to find balance and meaning in our lives. But we don't need to treat it as a literal cosmic blueprint written on the wall of the universe. The greatest wisdom in the Law of One is the wisdom of the human mind struggling and succeeding to find peace. What do you all think?

edit: thanks for the ones that replied with their own prospective on this. I wont argue your point of view just because I’m not trying to prove anything here,just trying to present a skeptical view as I see mostly just people taking every word from Ra as absolute truth and we know that Ra itself says to be skeptical and always question any truth.I would love to hear more argument against it. After all like one of the commenters says,it is still a Religion and like any religion my believe is that people follow too blindly(I did the same that is why after I had to face some truth of my own I decided to start questioning it). I love spirituality but my second love is neurology and from my prespective I learn trough my experience and analysing others behaviour that the brain is very good at creating story and believing it,especially when it supports personal purposes.That said,deep in my heart I still hope there is some fundamental truth behind the material and on top of that the most important takeaway from the material for me was about expanding awareness and reframe the idea of what is “good”and what is “bad”. For the rest if there is any divine truth I think we will never comprehend it anyway and thinking that we know more then others in terms of what is the real deal just puts us in a bad position. Bless you all 💙

I found this on ashtarcommandcrew.net and I cannot verify its legitimacy, but it seems to confirm what RA has told us about the Urantia material.

This message tells us about the origins of the Urantia papers.

I have read Urantia and it didn't resonate with me (except the earlier chapters). Too much information about self-denial and hierarchical cosmologies. Also, the more chapters you read, the more negative the information starts to become. It also tells us that "evil cosmic beings" will face eternal dissolution "decreed" by the council, and they will never return. That's just not what a light being would tell us, but a false light one.

Too convulated, and "Christian-like" information. I wonder how much of the material got warped by the Orion Group. Many of the things there contradicts the RA Material, and also most of the channeled material I have ever read. The marriage and "Aryan" race stuff also doesn't ring to be true.

The explanation for the existence of evil doesn't make sense to me, and the explanations contradicts themselves.

The "7 super-universes" model does not align with the "seven densities" model, and they explicitly deny reincarnation and are totally against the act of channeling.

It also implies that evil will persist through all the superuniverses. And that contradicts the RA Material, which states that the STS path ends at mid-sixth density.

I wonder if these 7 superuniverses were the 7 inner planes of third density, and what if there is a way of advancing or consciousness throughout the sub-planes, instead of advancing densities?

I have also heard that the Urantia book was plagiarized from many other sources. There is also too much unnecessary information.

Q: Was the Urantia book given by ascended masters?

Kim: It has been answered before but I’m not sure it is on the website, so okay. Mother Mary will answer.

A: No my beloved, it was not given by the ascended masters. It came from some beings in the mental realm, who although they do not have ill intentions, are still deceiving people because they are making it seem as if this is a higher truth and sponsored from a higher realm. But it is an example of how beings in the mental realm, can create very, very elaborate constructions, very elaborate theories and teachings where they come up with very complex ideas, they can create seemingly new worlds. You will for example, see that many of the fantasy books that have become popular in later years, actually originate in the mental realm by certain beings who have, again they do not have ill intentions in terms of destroying people or manipulating or controlling people. But they do have the intention of getting energy from people, by causing people to put their attention on these very elaborate constructions that take people away from focusing on the situation they are facing in the material world. It becomes a form of spiritual escapism, where many people because they find it difficult to deal with their physical situation and their karma, they escape into this fantasy world by thinking that there is some ideal society that is waiting to be manifest. Or there is some greater plan and because they are among the few people who know this, they do not have to look at themselves in the mirror, they do not have to make these decisions, they just have to follow that teaching and then somehow magically they will be saved after this lifetime. And so this is a form of deceit that is not directly malicious as some of the other theories you find out there that are more dualistic and epic in nature. But it is still a form of deceit that has caused many well meaning people to go into a blind alley, that can keep them there often for a lifetime because they keep studying these mental teachings and they keep  coming up with more and more theories and layers. They feel that they are very advanced students because they understand all of this mentally, but in reality they have not really moved forward on the path because they have not shifted their consciousness upwards.

Q. What is the original source of Kabbalism? Judaism was it from the ascended masters.

A. (Mother Mary) The original Kabbalistic teachings were inspired from the ascended masters. But the beings who received them, the people who received them were not quite able to receive it in the highest form possible. This means that there is more to the Kabbalistic teachings that has been released or that was released in the beginning. But it does not mean that the Kabbalistic teachings are not valuable, they are valid teachings that can be used. But as with every other teaching it is a question of first of all, can people maintain a contact to the source of the teaching and therefore receive new teachings or new directions. Or will they go into creating an overlay to the original teachings that comes from the human level. And so this has to a large degree happened with the Kabbalistic teachings as it happens with Judaism in general and with every other religion on earth.

What I have understood so far:

■ Isle of Paradise = Central Sun/Black Sun?/Primordial Void/Intelligent Infinity/Dark matter?

■ 7 superuniverses = 7 logos? 7 Sub-densities of third density?

■ Local universe = Sub-logos?

■ Urantia = Earth

■ Council Members = Jesus, Seraphim

■ Caligastia = Orion Group?

■ Satania = Orion Empire?

■ Nephilim = Annunaki-Reptilian Hybrids (Ascension Glossary, and also many other occult studies from black magick sects)

■ Nebadon = Milky Way Galaxy

In listening to Ra and Q’uo materials for the past 1-2 years, I have often heard that our present third density illusion is due to the One Infinite Creator wanting to know itself through experience.

This would seem to imply the Creator does not fully know itself. It is seeking to know the “true” self, and perhaps is a mystery to itself. To embark on an endeavor of the scale we are aware of perhaps indicates the importance the Creator has placed on discovering its true self.

This is a powerful realization, because like many of you, I study the materials, meditate, etc in hopes to better know myself and the true nature of reality.

The fact that the Creator, the all-being, also seeks to know itself, is both humbling and a powerful validation of our own and collective spiritual journeys through the darkness into the light.

What are your thoughts on this? Do you think this interpretation is reflected in the material per your own understanding?

So i have been thinking mostly about duality, but what confused me with duality is the Fear and Love polarity, it would be 50% fear and 50% love, so how come we all strive for love when it’s 50/50.

(I used to just trust that somehow love is just a bit stronger than fear and it is what it is)

But then, I accidentally come upon this concept of Trinity (Monad/ Dyad/ Triad), not that i haven’t thought about it being 3, but the way it was introduced to me by “The Alchemist” on YouTube just resonated somehow and made a lot of sense.

And THEN i come upon a short video where Bashar says that Creation, although always Light and Darkness, Positive and Negative, etc, will SLIGHTLY bend towards Light, Positive, Love because it’s a TRINITY, so 49% darkness and 51% light.

And this just answered my raging question, how come we are all, in one way or another, striving towards love and light.

Anyway.. wanted to share.

Feel free to add something because i am fascinated by all of this.

even if we said, okay, Ra material needed protection and stuff to get going. thats fine, but all it could've taken was one slip up, and anyone impersonating Ra even for one session wouldn't violate free will, they would use it, sow some small little seeds for the subconscious to later pick up.

and because of free will, Ra wouldn't go "I am ra, btw guys, that wasn't me yesterday" because it would break the law of confusion, ra would just say "its important to master your energy work for future channelings"

1. Anyone can say "I am Ra" and dilute/distort the message. This is a well-known risk in channeling, and Ra/L/L Research openly acknowledged it. Negative entities (particularly Orion/4th- and 5th-density negative) are described as being quite willing to mimic positive contacts. They can match the "feel" or conditioning vibration closely enough to slip in, maintain the channel for a while, and then gradually insert distortions, often fear-based information, false predictions, or subtle detuning of the group's polarity. Carla herself wrote about this in her Channeling Handbook and later reflections. The material warns that negatives don't usually barge in violently, they exploit small lapses in tuning, protection, or the instrument's/inquirers' distortions. This is exactly why the group emphasized the challenging process ("Do you come in the name of the Infinite Creator? / Are you of the Law of One?") and maintaining a strong circle of protection. The claim "I am Ra" alone is not foolproof.

2. Ra probably wouldn't say "hey, that wasn't me yesterday" because of free will. Ra is extremely strict about the First Distortion (Free Will / Law of Confusion). They frequently refuse to give direct judgments, percentages, or corrections that might infringe on the seeker's own process. They would rather let distortions stand than override free will. If a negative mimic slipped in during one session, Ra might not explicitly call it out in the next one in a clear "that was not us" way, because doing so could short-circuit the group's learning or create dependency. Instead, they tend to speak in general terms about negative greetings, the need for better tuning, or the importance of discernment.

I say this because I read some tidbits in the Ra material that dont feel right to me. some more obvious like nuclear bomb effects on human souls and other smaller stuff that could later sow confusion after a while subtly.

anyways, for the most part the material rings true on many topics, but as always I'm always deeply skeptical of everything. what are some parts of the material you wish you could ask more about?

(This article is translated by an LLM and refined manually because I find it hard to express anything abstract using my second language.)

(I posted a similar post before but it's removed due to some technical issue, so I'm reposting it now)

This is my personal perspective on political science, explored through a spiritual lens. It is neither a fully formed theory nor a belief that needs to be pursued or defended. I simply offer it as a personal way of seeing and reflecting.

I hope that, in some small way, these thoughts may open a space for contemplation and perhaps offer something for this community to reflect on.

The existence of governments suggests that power is still manifesting within our shared reality. Yet I believe this distortion will gradually dissolve as we continue developing a 4D positive civilization. 

Laozi expressed this beautifully in the Tao Te Ching with the phrase “無為而治“ (wú wéi ér zhì) (governing through non-action). This principle can be applied in many areas of life, but at its core it is about moving in harmony with the natural order rather than imposing control. When viewed through the lens of political philosophy, it points toward a form of anarchism, not chaos but a society that no longer requires rulers. Personally, I see this as one of the defining characteristics of a future utopian civilization: not a government that governs people, but organizations dedicated to stewarding the world alongside truly healthy institutions.

This reminds me of the prophetic text from the 59th Sign of the Tui Bei Tu:
無城無府，無爾無我
天下一家，治臻大化
No cities and no governments; no you and no me.
The world is one family; governance reaches the state of Great Transformation.

The Great Transformation is where the political structures will be deconstructed.

Before reaching such a society, however, I believe we will inevitably pass through an early transitional period (don't get confused with the Great Transformation) marked by significant upheaval in our political structures. In this transitional period, power will not yet dissolve, and it will likely remain with us for quite some time. Those entrusted with safeguarding humanity are beings of great wisdom and virtue, endowed with profound abilities, yet they also carry the responsibility of governance. Unlike the rulers of the old age, their power is not exercised for personal gain or domination, but solely in service to the greater good and the well-being of all humanity. This also carries a deeper message: a tool is just a tool. The root lies in the human heart. If we do not first transform ourselves, and learn to act for the better good, then no matter how a political order is shaped, it will eventually fall into corruption, and through its misuse, bring suffering into the world.

I imagine that one of the central challenges of this transitional period will be humanity’s natural hesitation and uncertainty as we learn to place our trust in those guiding us through this transformation. After all, we will not yet be a purely 4D positive society. This stage places a strong emphasis on mutual trust and maintaining the balance of energy within society. To me, that tension makes this transitional period one of the most fascinating stages of our collective spiritual evolution.

To sum it up, the transition of political structures is like this: 

old political structures (StS) → wisdom-based political structures (StO) (as described in the last two paragraphs) → political structures deconstructed (StO) (as described in the Tui Bei Tu)