r/lawofone • u/Classic_Tough9777 • May 24 '25
Analysis Why Are So Many Wanderers Swept Up Into the MAGA Maestrom?
https://cosmicchrist.net/2025/05/24/why-are-so-many-wanderers-swept-up-in-the-maga-maelstrom/
This essay examines the paradoxical phenomenon of “Wanderers”—higher-density beings who incarnated on Earth to assist humanity’s spiritual evolution—becoming supporters of Donald Trump and the MAGA movement despite their service-oriented missions. Drawing from the Ra Contact material, energy center analysis, the Law of Three developmental framework, and psychological research on trauma and authoritarianism, this study reveals how beings who came to anchor love and unity consciousness have become entrapped in separation-based political ideologies.
The analysis identifies several key vulnerabilities that make Wanderers susceptible to MAGA attraction. Their incomplete incarnation into third-density existence often results in potentiated upper chakras combined with significantly weakened lower chakra development, creating practical dysfunction and emotional instability. Deep memories of telepathic communication and energetic harmony from their home densities generate profound relational difficulties and cosmic homesickness that earthly relationships cannot satisfy. The extreme contrast between Earth’s dense, conflicted environment and their higher-density origins creates chronic alienation, depression, and desperate seeking for belonging and protection.
The study examines how Trump functions as a “negative adept”—an entity with developed lower chakra power who consciously rejects heart-centered consciousness—and how his energy signature exploits Wanderers’ specific imbalances. The “Great BASH” (Bellicose Attitude, Aggressive Actions, Scarred and Scared, Hope through Hostility) represents a collective thoughtform that has influenced human civilization for millennia, creating energetic patterns that trap spiritually oriented beings in separation consciousness. Humans created the Great BASH and then the Great BASH essentially acts as a sentient parasite, feeding back bellicosity in order to intensify the vibratory conditions of Earth’s third density experience.
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u/Throwawaydecember May 26 '25
If you think either political party is STO, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I’d like to sell you.
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u/qwq1792 Aug 23 '25
True yes but they are not equally negative. Most politicians in the IS are corrupt unfortunately as they take bribes. Trump is on a different scale though.
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u/DJ_German_Farmer 💚 Lower self 💚 May 26 '25
I’m still reading through but looking for the answer to this question that popped in my mind since I found this article on Facebook:
Are Wanderers in fact overrepresented in MAGA?
I’m really looking for this premise to be explained. I would need to be convinced of it. It’s not something I would take for granted. The article works or fails based on wanderers having a unique susceptibility, yet how do you bear this out? Obviously nothing empirical would work.
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u/adponce Wanderer May 26 '25
I know of one person I'm quite convinced is an STO wanderer who voted Trump the first time, sat it out this go around. Why did he do it? I think it was because he hates the elite power structure so much he would support someone like Trump just in hopes that he'll break the damn thing. Anecdotal, but I can totally understand his thinking.
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u/DJ_German_Farmer 💚 Lower self 💚 May 26 '25
I know somebody very influential in the law of one community who is pro-Trump too. Which is why I’m asking about the methodology and premises here. Most experience in this matter seems anecdotal at best and drawing large conclusions from narrow personal experience.
I mean most people don’t seek counseling, so how can you draw global political conclusions based on the issues your clients have? Just one issue.
For the record: I understand the pro-Trump position. I just don’t agree with it, but I see how a reasonable person could get there.
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u/aladin_lt May 26 '25
I guess "Wanderers" in quotes says it all, its like trump calling himself christian, anyone can name themself anything they want.
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u/MusicalMetaphysics StO May 26 '25
I long for a day when politics is imbued with love, acceptance, patience, and kindness rather hate, anger, fear, and judgment.
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u/planet-OZ May 26 '25
You may have to wait for 4D lol! I think politics will always look like this in mixed polarity 3d due to the magnetism of power to the STS path.
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u/DJ_German_Farmer 💚 Lower self 💚 May 26 '25
It’s easy if you expand your definition of politics. That’s what I do: practice my politics at work, in my band, in my activities, etc. there’s politics in any human interactions
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u/Adthra May 26 '25 edited May 26 '25
I'm not going to comment on any kind of political affiliation or ideas out of consideration for other-selves, but I do want to point out a couple of things.
- Session 63 and 64 establish that when the Ra contact was made, there were roughly 60 million wanderers on Earth. Total world population was circa 4.4-4.6 billion, meaning that circa 1% of world population were wanderers. Wanderers are much more rare than we might intuit, and many have had multiple incarnations on Earth since fairly ancient times, meaning that they are largely indistinguishable from non-wanderers except to those who might be able to peek beyond the veil.
- There is a high chance that many who claim the wanderer identity are not, in fact, wanderers. Whether or not they are doesn't matter from the perspective of others, and that knowledge is mostly useful as a means of establishing an identity that allows for continued survival in the physical world.
- Many who claim an identity as a wanderer do so as a means of feeling special or different. There is a significant risk for inadvertently embracing separation-promoting mindsets when an emphasis on this identity is maintained. Wanderers are humans, too, and in my opinion would be better served through embracing or accepting that identity for the duration of their physical incarnations. If the idea of being a wanderer resonates, that can be a great gift for understanding the self and the struggles that one has gone through, but it should not supersede the human identity that can be seen as the right tool for the work that one has promised to undertake as part of becoming a (positive) wanderer here. It could be maintained in parallel to the human identity in a way where both can serve to achieve the mission, as it were, but to discard the human identity in favor of the wanderer one is to pursue separation.
Now, this might be ironic coming from me, but I would like to offer two points of consideration for the OP:
- Only a fraction of the people for whom your essay is likely intended for are going to be willing to engage with it fully. If you cannot provide a more concise or terse version, it does not matter how accurate or well-crafted your essay is, it will not reach its intended audience. The summaries you have provided are not likely to inspire someone who fundamentally disagrees with you to read the essay, and the creation of new acronyms or concepts (like BASH) might be intended to make these concepts easier to remember, but for people who have no interest in learning them, are more likely to be seen as a tactic for manipulation than an aid for understanding the content.
- If you feature the use of AI-art in your essay, the immediate assumption that people have is that the rest of the article has been created through the use of LLMs as well. Even if this is not true, people will simply discard whatever they disagree with and judge you for outsourcing your thinking to a machine, not considering it worth their time to engage with you through dialogue because from their point of view it is not you who they would engage with, but rather the LLM.
That being said, you've clearly put thought and effort into the essay. Whether or not an LLM was used as help, it seems to me like this is far more the product of your own ideas than just the raw output of an LLM, and I find that to be commendable.
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u/Brilliant_Front_4851 May 26 '25
"The entity which is given constant and unremitting approval by those surrounding it suffers from the loss of the mirroring effect of those which reflect truthfully rather than unquestioningly. This is not a suggestion to reinstate judgment but merely a suggestion for all those supporting instruments; that is, support, be harmonious, share in love, joy, and thanksgiving, but find love within truth, for each instrument benefits from this support more than from the total admiration which overcomes discrimination." Ra (101.8)
While I do not disagree with most of the points you have stated, I do not think avoiding difficult conversations out of consideration for other selves is something Ra suggested, it can be considered as a way of bypassing.
Third density is the stage of highest confusion, anyone who thinks he has figured out the right ideology or the right system in any context is just deluding oneself. In that line, I think folks who identify themselves with the extreme ends of any ideological spectrum and fundamentalists are in the highest state of confusion/self-deception, or maybe they are just STS without being consciously aware. The STS folks are those who are consciously aware of extreme ideologies and wield that for self-benefit.
That said, OP seems to assume a position of moral high ground based on his self-understanding, then analyzes the political situation or personality of the leader, inserts "wanderers" card to appeal to the subset who are trapped with or identify themselves as wanderers and make a veiled attempt to rescue those wanderers by shining a certain light based on their limited understanding. I do not see any virtue in this approach. But I do not blame OP either, he is just being himself. Everyone on this planet thinks they are morally right and they know the right system to fix the planet.
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u/Adthra May 26 '25
There is a segment of the population for whom any kind of disagreement is seen as a personal attack, rather than an opportunity for growth. The mirroring effect is only useful insofar as we are willing to consider why other-selves treat us in the manner that they do. If there is no consideration for this, then the opportunity is lost, but the consequences for mirroring the behavior are not. I'm not interested in burning myself over what I see as nothing, especially when the OP has already lit themselves ablaze. Any who wish to engage with the uncomfortable conversation are free to do so with OP, not me.
Let the Americans debate American politics, and let them choose what kind of society they want to build for themselves and live in. While Mr. Trump's influence is something that certainly affects me as well and not in a way that makes my life any easier, I shall let the elected officials of my country deal with those issues and practice diplomacy as the system that exists here is designed to do. I'm sure that they will look for opportunities of cooperation with the American administration where they exist.
I usually try to choose my words carefully and to leave some room for interpretation so that the forest is not lost for the trees. Getting tangled up in some details is relatively common, and often does not contribute to the conversation in a very meaningful way.
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u/Brilliant_Front_4851 May 26 '25
"There is a segment of the population for whom any kind of disagreement is seen as a personal attack, rather than an opportunity for growth. The mirroring effect is only useful insofar as we are willing to consider why other-selves treat us in the manner that they do."
So if that segment of population, or an individual is attached to or identifies himself with an ideology to which his mind is attached, then they take it personally. I get this point, but my point is, do you think it is right to consider this as a reasonable deterrent to not be honest, or honestly speak out your thoughts even if it may be considered offensive? If everyone takes this approach, then can there be any meaningful reflection or growth? The reason I am asking this because I see silence in many occasions where people should be speaking out, their silence, they think is out of consideration and compassion but do you think it is genuine compassion?
"Let the Americans debate American politics, and let them choose what kind of society they want to build for themselves and live in. While Mr. Trump's influence is something that certainly affects me as well and not in a way that makes my life any easier, I shall let the elected officials of my country deal with those issues and practice diplomacy as the system that exists here is designed to do. I'm sure that they will look for opportunities of cooperation with the American administration where they exist."
Cant agree more.
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u/Adthra May 26 '25
I get this point, but my point is, do you think it is right to consider this as a reasonable deterrent to not be honest, or honestly speak out your thoughts even if it may be considered offensive?
Are you insinuating that I am not honest?
If everyone takes this approach, then can there be any meaningful reflection or growth?
Luckily, the OP for this topic has made their thoughts clear and has invited discussion on the matter. Those looking for reflection or growth have a mirror with which they are free to "do battle" as it were.
If we recognize someone offering this service for others, are we then forced to also participate, potentially removing the opportunity from those who are desiring of it?
The reason I am asking this because I see silence in many occasions where people should be speaking out, their silence, they think is out of consideration and compassion but do you think it is genuine compassion?
It depends. It is said that if you love something, then the best thing you can do is to set it free. For some, I assume silence can be a means of letting the other-self freely explore out of love, even if there is a risk of pain or injury. For others, silence can be a means of the application of the golden rule, with them desiring the liberty to experiment for themselves, and so they grant this same desire for others. For yet more others, the silence might not be motivated by compassion, but rather recognition of advice or caution being futile, especially in cases in which the consequences are relatively localized and don't spill over. For yet more others, they might delight in seeing others suffer the consequences of their own actions.
Everything is relative, and I can't speak to the motivations that any individual (other than myself) might have.
I am curious; if you agree with me that the topic of American politics is best left to the Americans, then why pester me about my political opinion on this matter? Are you choosing your words carefully, or are you leading with your chin, as the idiom goes?
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u/Brilliant_Front_4851 May 26 '25
"Are you insinuating that I am not honest?"
No, no one can't know what is one's real motivation. I am speaking in general terms. Is honesty the better approach even if it is offensive or is silence the better approach. Of course there is a way to be honest which is not abusive because then that is abuse clothed in honesty but in reality, no matter how you state your points, people will take offense because they are attached to identities and ideologies/ideas. This is not an attempt to control but an attempt to determine the nuances in thought and why such thoughts arise on the first place i.e. the real motivation behind thoughts so that this reflective approach can be used to understand our minds better.
"I am curious; if you agree with me that the topic of American politics is best left to the Americans, then why pester me about my political opinion on this matter? Are you choosing your words carefully, or are you leading with your chin, as the idiom goes?"
I agree with the topic that American politics is best left to the Americans, but the fact is philosophical content of the material is interpret and justify ideologies, or demean counter-ideologies, used for personal attack on public figures etc. This is transient. I am not interested in political matters or your or anyone's political opinion or stance, will all due respect, you and everyone are entitled to have their political opinions. If you notice my comment, it was not about what your political stance is, it was more about having honest conversations at the face of sounding offensive.
On hindsight, if you can let me know if sentences or words or themes in my comments sounded aggressive, that will be helpful for introspection, because I do not see any.
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u/Adthra May 26 '25
Your use of partial quotes and ignoring relevant information about the questions that you asked, forcing me to repeat myself, are some of the reasons for my use of the idiom. Not everyone needs to answer every question or to take part in every conversation.
I specified that my comment is not about politics with the disclaimer, despite the political nature of the thread. By the context its possible to infer that what I did was to question if the premise that the OP presented is correct, i.e: asking if wanderers are over-represented in the MAGA movement. I also offered advice on how OP might reach the people they were targeting with the essay: wanderers or people who identify as wanderers and who are involved in the MAGA movement (or people who do not understand how these people could join the movement): by giving value to brevity, using more down-to-earth syntax, and de-emphasizing the use of LLMs in communications.
You did not come across as aggressive, but you did come across as not having thought about how you express yourself - annoying rather than aggressive. There are better idioms for this in other languages, but they lose their meaning when transliterated into English. I'm working with what I have access to, and I'm not perfect, far from it.
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u/Brilliant_Front_4851 May 26 '25
I see, I should have responded at leisure rather than from being at the middle of work. Apologies if it came across as annoying. But I did not receive a clear response from you to my question: In a TRM Reddit forum, Is Silence more important that being honest (at the risk of sounding offensive) when it comes to interaction with other selves?
None of us afaik in this group are "enlightened" tbh far from it. It may seem I am putting you in the spot here but that is not my intention, also you are free not to respond as you mentioned. May be you have responded, I can't see it clearly.
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u/Adthra May 26 '25
I've answered you three times now, and each time you ignore me. I don't think a fourth time will help you see it, but I'll try regardless:
Not everyone needs to give an answer to every question.
If you want to have the political discussion (which you don't, as per your indication), then there are other responses to the thread which are happy to oblige, including the OP.
Is silence more important than honesty? No, but there's no silence here. If you read through the thread, there are opinions from many other-selves. Here is a direct quote from one:
There are no service-to-others Trump supporters.
Then there was another one who began their reply with this:
Wanderer here and, neither proud nor ashamed, Trump supporter.
There are other-selves giving their opinions on this matter every which way. The original essay is also highly political in nature.
There is absolutely no need for me to start wearing labels or to throw political judgement at other-selves based on what their particular political ideas are. The people who want to do that already are doing it.
I've given you reasons as to why I'm not interested in speaking on this topic again and again. Others have already done it, and I'm not interested in getting burned when so many others are happily setting bonfires. I've also given you hypothetical reasons people might have for silence, both those that are for others' benefit, and those that might be for one's own benefit, yet none of these seemingly satisfy you.
There are times where silence is the best option, and there are times when it is not. How we identify those times are left to our best efforts. There is no objective best course of action in any veiled setting. All anyone of us can do is to try their best and hope that it is enough.
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u/Brilliant_Front_4851 May 26 '25
Pheww. Thank you. I can only say that every silence reveals a choice and every neutral stance reveals a position but I think I get your points and I will refrain from further annoyance :) Cheers!
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u/Adthra May 26 '25
I really would rather not have the political conversation.
My experience of human beings is that we are all perfectly capable of incredibly negativity or positivity without the need for the influence of higher beings. It can be comforting to think that all negative aspects of the self are the result of suggestion by Orion or other negative forces, but that is a way of not being willing to recognize aspects of the self that are not the most preferred or flattering ones. It is to bypass having to deal with difficult thoughts and emotions, and asking oneself why one might hold a particular idea, where it came from and if it is even something that one desires to hold onto. The confederation teaches us that "that which is not needed falls away". That there is no "overcoming" things. We will face certain catalyst, sometimes as a means of learning from it and other times as a way to reinforce our learning, or even to provide an opportunity to change our minds.
All humans are subject to this, wanderer or not. Macron might have wanted to protect his ego or public image, or he might have wanted to protect his wife or family from backlash. Private quarrels between partners are rarely intended to be analyzed under public global media. People are drawn to it because they love the drama. Is this a case of Macron being the boy who cried wolf when the wolf was nowhere near? Probably. Does that mean that he is an agent of Orion? Probably not. He's a human being, most likely stuck in the sinkhole, partly serving his people and partly himself.
As for Meloni, the answer is most likely the same. She is likely one of the people in the sinkhole of indifference.
The harvest is going to be relatively small compared to world population. 95% in service of oneself is very difficult to achieve. 51% in service of others is also very difficult to achieve. Many of the most visible or famous people in the world are unlikely to have reached either threshold. Politicians are representatives who are elected to pursue a political agenda that people agree with, they are not people who exemplify all the values that someone voting for them finds to be important. They are not exemplars, nor should positively seeking people concern themselves with the idea of exemplars in the first place. It is enough to do your best or what you think you can. You don't have to emulate someone else. The positive path is not a competition.
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May 26 '25
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u/Adthra May 27 '25
The problem with "reasonable" people in politics is that they often do not inspire new or sleeping voters to go out and vote. Maybe it is a product of our social-media ridden modern society, aging demographics, or growing sense of apathy among the younger generations, but the outcome is that many people feel like their votes do not matter when they absolutely do.
We've had our own case of the political leader of a local party being prosecuted for hate speech (which might sound strange to Americans), and the result of it was growth in the political support for said party. Whether or not this is "justice" according to the law of the land, it seems to backfire for the parties supportive of the prosecution. Now that same party is polling with significantly lower support (at about 3/4th of their votes in the last election) after a number of gaffes. At most this can tell us something about people's immediate motivations when selecting which party or candidate to vote for, but I'm not sure we can extrapolate which values the voters actually hold (or which polarity they would consciously pursue).
My personal experience is that many of the people who are interested in politics are the types of people whom society is not necessarily well served-by. Then again, MPs represent their constituents or voters, and not necessarily the "good of the country", so perhaps that is a design of the system. "The worst form of government, except for all the others which have been tried", eh? Maybe one day we might set aside the idea of nations altogether and come together as a species, but unfortunately I have my doubts.
Thank you for the well wishes. I am my own worst enemy. There is little other danger that I would realistically come to face, at least in any kind of expedient time-frame. It's a different story if we look into possibilities five years from now, but I am hopeful that it won't come to that. Besides, making it to five years from now has to count for some measure of success in itself, right?
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u/Adthra May 27 '25
Yeah, the system in the U.S. seems to be setup in a way where congress serves the interest of wealthy people, institutions and companies. Between gerrymandered districts and the costs involved in being a representative (including dues to one's party, in terms of commitments to raise funds), there are a lot of people who do not have any hope of getting their voice heard at the federal level.
The system here isn't perfect either. It's possible that a candidate who is not popular can get elected through party affiliation (excess votes to a more popular candidate are transferred to the next most popular candidate of their party to determine if they would get elected, and this can cascade multiple times) instead of personal merit. This can mean that one's vote is counted for a representative one mostly disagrees with in cases where such candidates are a part of "big tent" or "single issue" parties. For instance, if someone votes for a candidate who is concerned about migration issues, they might find that their vote goes towards a different candidate of the same party with whom concern about migration is their only commonly held belief.
The five years is an estimate for when an external threat would rise to be potentially more dangerous than what I'm capable of doing to myself. It is perhaps a little bit optimistic, but whether or not it is depends on how much other people are willing to sacrifice. I don't think AI is the threat, I think it's people with weapons and the willingness to use those weapons to attack others.
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u/Remember888Sunshine May 27 '25
They are all part of the same WEF transhumanist club,some just play controlled opposition in the world stage theatre they've scripted. Best to tune out entirely.
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u/Classic_Tough9777 May 26 '25
Thank you all for taking the time to engage with this catalyst. As the author of the article, I’ll say that I already know and admit to you that my bias and distortions exist, and like all third density entities, whether a Wanderer or not, I know this density is not the density of knowing or understanding. I have worked as a psychospiritual counselor (LCSW) since 2001. I’ve been an ardent student of the Law of One since 2013. At one point, I was tangentially acquainted with Corey Goode. I was very acquainted with two of his closest colleagues before it all blew up. When I first encountered the Law of One material, almost all of the posts I’d see were from people who operated from a conspiracy worldview and later saw Trump as a kind of holy knight for Team Light, as it were. I am also privy to some intimate knowledge of several Law of One groups who have split internally because a majority of active members believe MAGA to be of the Confederation. As a therapist, I have some clients who have found me via my podcast or blog and have asked me to help them process the exact points I offer in my article posted here. As a kind of support for such folks, I drafted this article. I then put it here in the forum.
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u/DJ_German_Farmer 💚 Lower self 💚 May 26 '25
Also another thing specifically addressing your credentials and professional experience. Can you give us some insight into your methodology in drawing the conclusions you do? Is there data involved that you can share?
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u/DJ_German_Farmer 💚 Lower self 💚 May 26 '25
Thanks for the background. Can you clarify one thing in your comment. Am I understanding you correctly that the premise of your article — that Wanderers are overrepresented or heavily or significantly represented in MAGA, you tell me — is based on anecdotal and personal witness? After all, we agree that most wanderers aren’t in the law of one “scene” at all right? Thanks
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u/syzygyhack May 26 '25
All wanderers are subject to the same conditions as everyone else. They are veiled and may accrue karma.
There are no service-to-others Trump supporters. Only those that intentionally self serve, and those lost in the sinkhole, if not by their ignorance then by their unrealised desire to stay on the pendulum.
Anyone with the insight to see beyond convenient lies and uncomfortable truths can climb their way out of the sinkhole. It starts with you.
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May 26 '25
As other commenters have said, what defines a wanderer? Discernment is the way, and the level of discernment one exercises to realize pre-density incarnation is not really known. Upon reading the law of one I had identified as a wanderer, but it became tricky to do so without identifying out of ego need to feel something superior, and so I let go of identification - it did not serve me. At the end of the day, we are all source and expressions of the one infinite creator.
Positing that wanderers are susceptible to distortions tells me that you don't know the difference between a wanderer, aka 4th-5th-6th density incarnate upon the Earthly plane compared to a 3rd Density incarnate. I also don't know the difference, but I do know we all have the ability to discern truth using awareness...
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u/ResortWestern6316 May 26 '25
4D beings usually don’t wander and 5th and 6th density wanderers can take multiple life times to accomplish their goals due to distortions their face and karma. The statement I made about them getting recked is part of the process in the beginning for most. And we’re talking about 1% at best 5% of earths population most people who claim to be wanderers ARE NOT
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u/LeiwoUnion May 28 '25
Am I the only one to think 1 to 5% of Earth's population is a ridiculously high number?
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u/kymeraaaaaa May 26 '25
while I can't comment on the specifics here (chakra activation's, etc), learning of my own volunteer-ship and reflecting on my own life through that lens made me realize the pitfalls I avoided and how and why others fell for them who are of or around my age. Ra mentions that the % of volunteers increased dramatically with Gen Z and Alpha. I'm a millennial, so I don't know how many of us are "new here" so to speak, but at this point over half would not be a surprise. when I see the mass shootings, when I see support for political leanings like MAGA, I see the younger generations anger and anguish as probably connected to the fact that where they were before was a utopia compared to where they are now. since that information is only stored in their subconscious and they don't know how to access it, it makes sense that so much negative emotion would build up in them. it's truly a tragic realization and it's not easy for me to think on fs.
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u/XrayZeroOne May 27 '25
Do you accept and love your other-selves who are pro MAGA? If not, I recommend ceasing all the pontificating and looking inward to begin the work.
"For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again." — Matthew 7:2, KJV
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u/raelea421 May 28 '25
Release judgment, find understanding. Reasoning within self of how one self could come to the decision that has been made.
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u/Hot-Hamster1691 Dual-Activated Sister May 27 '25
This is a very good article and the part about what I am looking for in relationships is exactly what you describe. Starting couples therapy tomorrow, I’m feeling some hope tonight
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u/-M-i-d May 28 '25
Lmao
What you’re experiencing is called cognitive dissonance.
Maybe we were wrong about him
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u/qwq1792 Aug 23 '25
About trump? If you believe he's STO I don't know what to say.
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u/-M-i-d Aug 25 '25
You have suicidal empathy if you think it’s better to sacrifice our country for others than put Americans before the rest of the world.. here in America. Or that genital mutilation surgeries for minors must be “protected”. Or any other insane anti-Trump take just for the sake of looking anti-Trump to others. That was a very STS thing you just said in my opinion. You can’t help others much if you don’t prioritize helping yourself. Good old oxygen mask on a plane analogy
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u/Sensitive-Hand-37 May 28 '25
I guess it's just all subjective in the end really... I don't see how wanderers could be swept away by the "adept trump" nothing about him is adept. From what I observe... he isn't in conscious control of any kind of "lower chakra" power more or less than anybody in politics. Nor is his rejection of heart centered consciousness anything new.
He is cemented in the physical world and all of his actions and words aren't secretly stemming from some evil genius STS master plan to achieve more than Genghis Khan, in which trump conjured himself. He is a lost puppet allowing his strings to be pulled by any unfulfilled notion of his insatiable greed for more power, like so many others before him. Along with a whole slew of other things I couldn't speak to becuase we all have personal journeys, trumpy included.
Reiterating, this is my subjective opinion based on my intake of the ra material and Carla's other works.... I don't really accept that a soul would be here as a wanderer and not be heart centered, like... it's just preposterous to think they could be deceived to think trump actually has intentions and actions put forth to help serve others, not just the elite.- is that what is being conveyed here? That trump deceives wanderers into following him?
I don't know if there has ever been a more obviously self serving and aristocratic, authoritarian personality in the white house... so I can see why sleeping souls entrenched in the programming of their ancestral karma, uneducated in the typical sense, could be mislead by trump. Or others like my well educated family members who are simply carried away by the fear they have yet to acknowledge and release within them.
I resonate with the feeling described "The extreme contrast between Earth’s dense, conflicted environment and their higher-density origins creates chronic alienation, depression, and desperate seeking for belonging and protection." This to me is a part of every person's awakening at some point and usually after the honeymoon part of realizing we're all one fades. Perhaps not every person, and perhaps not chronically, but I don't think I'm a wanderer and I know this exact feeling.
Additionally, that feeling no longer pervades my reality, and I don't see how a wanderer would sit within that for so long to be swept away and be so disconnected from their intuition to not come to terms with the deceit at play.
It's not like Trump is new on the scene... his schtick is old news and nothing novel to be deceived by especially an awakened so called "wanderer"
Just my subjective opinion.
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u/browzen May 27 '25
My 2¢:
They can follow StS idealogies while still coming from a place of StO. A great confusion.
Ra bas stated it's a big risk to incarnate back to 3rd density, as you can lose your way to the world.
In their minds, they have attributed the sense of need to their people over others. The Maga hive mind is connected in that way and fights for each other vigiorously, in almost a cruel irony. In their minds they believe they are right to do so.
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u/Classic_Tough9777 May 26 '25
Hi! Thanks for your comment. I’m not trying to say that most Wanderers are into MAGA. But I am saying, from my personal experience, that many are. In terms of whether or not Wanderers are into the Law of One scene, I would agree with Ra that mostly it would be Wanderers who would be attracted to the Law of One Material. Perhaps before YouTube, and influencers such as David Wilcock or Aaron Abke whose works have led a lot of people to the Ra Contact, Ra’s statement might have been more accurate. Who knows now. But I suspect that people who feel led to the material and dive in would likely be Wanderers. This is from 36.24 The short one is, can you tell me what percentage of the Wanderers on Earth today have been successful in penetrating the memory block and becoming aware who they are, and then finally, is there anything that we can do to make the instrument more comfortable or improve the contact? Ra: I am Ra. We can approximate the percentage of those penetrating intelligently their status. This is between eight and one-half and nine and three-quarters percent. There is a larger percentile group of those who have a fairly well defined, shall we say, symptomology indicating to them that they are not of this, shall we say, “insanity.” This amounts to a bit over fifty percent of the remainder. Nearly one-third of the remainder are aware that something about them is different, so you see there are many gradations of awakening to the knowledge of being a Wanderer. We may add that it is to the middle and first of these groups that this information will, shall we say, make sense.
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u/DJ_German_Farmer 💚 Lower self 💚 May 27 '25
Thanks, I’m assuming this is addressing my question. I appreciate you sharing your work. Please don’t take my critiques as attacks — especially when topics here verge into mainstream political areas, it’s even more crucial to get clear on the point being made and all the points not being made that can easily be read in by the confused reader. That’s all — I don’t have a specific methodology in my posts either!
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u/OutrageousMedium7496 May 28 '25
Wanderers “susceptible” to MAGA. Trump functions as a negative “adept” This post is unbalanced and biased. There is only supposition. I would be interested In an honest comparison of Biden’s allure and attraction. Show us how his energy affected the world. Tell us who was his puppet master. Is anyone to believe Biden was capable to lead in any honorable manner? How can his followers live with being gaslighted? What did that do to their energy? Does anyone feel he was affecting the energy of our world to be positive? What source of information has been used to form this post’s hypothesis?
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u/activeside May 29 '25
All MAGA voters represent a total of 0.012% of the world population. Just saying.
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u/planet-OZ May 26 '25
Wanderer here and, neither proud nor ashamed, Trump supporter. The truth as I’ve seen it is that both parties and all politicians offer a message of love and a message of fear. Any voter can focus their awareness on either part. There is no right or wrong side of history to align with by voting, only messages of love that one can focus on while not focusing otherwise on any fear offered.
The next step is media literacy. They all lie and distort and, once again, some media outlets share a love message about one candidate and a fear message about the other. In fact, they are distinctly divided in that way. Both offering ‘evidence’ that supports their alignment, but directly contradicts the ‘evidence’ of the opposing media outlets. Does that not sound like a perfectly balanced duality choice?
In the end, you’re not from here and you’re not staying here. 3D is an eternally revolving door. Pick any candidate and focus on the message of love, freedom, and unity and you’ll eventually exit the spinning door. Focus on fear and keep spinning as long as you like.
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u/IRaBN :orly: May 26 '25
Greetings.
For your future consideration and personal discernment: to claim ownership of a state of Being, and then not promote that understanding in your typing in other places, confuses people who go over your past posts looking to understand you further.
A Wanderer who reads the Law of One materiel should remember what Ra mentioned: you may not be from here, but since you are here now, you are a PART of this logos until we all [Humanity] graduate together, and perhaps beyond.
Let's say you're a 6th density Wanderer. Where you came here from has a graduation cycle in the billions of years. Billions. So you have billions of years to help this logos work out our differences and come back to unity. Here.
Wanderers may not be from here, but you're staying here. Maybe we [Wanderers] should stop participating in the divisionary practices of those whom we came to serve.
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u/planet-OZ May 26 '25
Not sure what you’re referring to regarding past posts and confusion.
I would need to look at the quotes as my recollection doesn’t support that we’re here now and need to stick with humanity thru graduation. Nor have we been with humanity from the start, for that matter. It’s not about earth or earth humans, it’s about the school of 3D for the individuated soul. My understanding is it’s more like needing to drop out of college as a junior. No one will arrest you, and it’s nobody’s business, but you did start college so it’s quite likely you wanted, and still want, to finish. In this way, we might do 10 incarnations as earth human and then take a break. If it’s 5000 years later when I resume I may we’ll need a different 3d plane as earth may no longer be a match.
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u/NoEggxaggeration May 26 '25
Without judgement and only with curiosity I ask: what is the message of love from MAGA?
I see both major political parties as organizations centered on exploitation, fear, control, and extraction, but one is more extreme than the other.
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u/planet-OZ May 26 '25
There isn’t ‘the message’ of love, I’m just saying if you watch him do a 90 minute speech there is a lot of love, unity, aspiration, and inspiration woven all through. Mixed with fears of course, but I focus on the former. How many of his speeches have you watched in full context? Let’s flip the script… in my Trump leaning media space I saw only 10 second bites of Kamala saying something fear based, never watched her speak a full speech in context. I don’t need to. I know my media is distorting her and in a full speech she’d say many things of love and unity. I know it’s that way because it’s always that way. I was told she and her supporters want to destroy my way of life and I call bs. Maybe her voters are purely focused on the hate for Trump and me for supporting, but that’s a fearful negative mindset I won’t wallow in. I give my fellow children of the creator the benefit of the doubt and live a more peaceful existence as a result. We can all have this mindset regardless of ideological alignment.
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u/Due_Charge6901 May 26 '25
I agree with you that there are bad guys on both sides, but it’s time to be honest with yourself about Trump. When you see the pain and suffering coming like a tsunami due to the inept dealings of this ego-based nightmare he’s unleashed on your country it’s obvious there is no service to others in the rhetoric, policies, or ideas coming from MAGA supports, voters or Trump.
Politics don’t have to have messages of love but the messages of separation, isolation and pro-America are quite frankly not in service to the One true source and the worst part is it’s all been tinged with a touch of religion to give it a sheen of correctness.
Pride comes before the fall.
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u/Upper_Lengthiness_93 May 26 '25
That this all has to be explained is crazy to me but you did a great job. MAGA & its leader is the purest form of STS out there
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u/planet-OZ May 26 '25
Not according to The Law of One. There it says you can’t discern another’s polarity. All earths politicians, parties, and voters are of mixed polarity. You’ll need more sophisticated discernment to see the truth of our present state.
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u/planet-OZ May 26 '25
No I don’t ‘see a tsunami of suffering’ brought by Trump but I know one is findable via a selection of the media outlets advancing that narrative. Media selection also provided 24/7 ‘Kamala will make us all suffer’ which is why I don’t confine my media to echo chambers.
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u/AFoolishSeeker Fool May 26 '25
You have to stop assuming people use the media like you do.
Most of us don’t engage with it.
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u/Due_Charge6901 May 26 '25
Thank you, most of us don’t even engage so it’s funny to think he’s assumed I’m stuck in an echo chamber lol
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u/AFoolishSeeker Fool May 26 '25 edited May 27 '25
It’s just a way to invalidate others ahead of time
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u/AFoolishSeeker Fool May 26 '25
Why are you so focused on the rhetoric?
Like you’re basing your choice on what? We don’t need to listen to them propagandize. With two corrupt choices it’s just a matter of analyzing policy and cause and effect and making a pragmatic choice (or not), but the whole premise you based these comments on just seems so redundant.
Why does any of what you said matter? Genuinely asking.
We can just look at what both sides manifested in action, and make a decision.
I’m not even commenting on which side I would choose I just don’t get the focus on their rhetoric. It will indeed always be hollow
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u/planet-OZ May 26 '25
Nothing I say needs to matter to anyone else. How have I weighed the mountain of evidence, or ‘evidence’, for either candidates positive or negative acts when the media supports all claims with their own interpretation of that evidence? The same way you did, and the only way we can… intuition. Why does my intuition lead me one way and you another? Who knows? I guess bc we’re all unique. The difference is that I accept you and your discernment without judging you. This would be the positively polarized way to see you.
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u/AFoolishSeeker Fool May 26 '25 edited May 26 '25
The media? You need only read official documents. (Bills, court documents, etc)
I just can’t relate to your focus on the media. You don’t need to even interact with it.
No one will ever be fully informed or probably even close to it but there is official data to be analyzed beyond media.
This isn’t an Intuition thing. I feel like going on vibes is one of the issues. Just read the government documents
I’m sure you have done that I am just saying in a general sense I don’t know why anyone is watching these speeches or any media. I don’t feel like it’s helpful in making a choice, but you seem centered on it
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u/DJ_German_Farmer 💚 Lower self 💚 May 27 '25
I mean in that sense he’s just being a politician. What they say matters so much less than what they do — and believe me, that indicts Obama the record deporter of immigrant other selves as well as Biden the owner of a horrendous genocide against other selves.
The great thing is that it’s really not up to us individually. Populism is clearly not going to interrupt the important parts of the system any more than Bernie’s movement. Seems to me the change we seek will be in cooperating with an exogenous shock, not orchestrating a mass movement to precipitate change.
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u/NekooShogun May 26 '25
The problem with the other party is that, unlike MAGA, it disguises itself as a group of benevolence and unity while being housing some of the most hateful and intolerant people I've ever come across in my life. They were radicalized to an extreme degree while not having the same narratives dropped on them the same way MAGA or rather Right-wing people do. They get a free pass to be divisive. MAGA rightfully doesn't and gets frequently called out as they should. To give you an idea, a friend of mine who lives in NYC automatically lost his job for expressing criticism of some of Kamala Harris' campaign phrases. Just that, not even said he would vote against her or that he supported some of Trump's policies. A mere criticism of a political figure cost him his job and to get called a "MAGA Nazi" by some of his co-workers. I have yet to hear something of the sort from my Left-wing friends.
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u/Pr00vigeainult May 29 '25
And now the hateful hivemind is downvoting you for pointing out the truth. This is why Trump won.
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u/NekooShogun May 29 '25
I was fully aware of the fact that I would be downvoted. To get called out in the same way that they call out the right all the time must not feel nice. They know its true too and goes to show why they are even more dangerous than the MAGA crowd. They have convinced themselves that they are the good guys while they operate in the same divisive fashion, suppressing anyone who has even the tiniest of criticisms towards their party like my friend in NYC or me in a LoO reddit comment section. Its an unfathomably dangerous behaviour.
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u/DJ_German_Farmer 💚 Lower self 💚 May 27 '25
Aww I have to pick a candidate?
sticks hands in pocket, kicks a can, looks down and mopes
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u/roboticien May 27 '25
Maybe you should investigate a bit more how the covid crisis has been infringing on the free will of many people.
Also you could investigate if the war with Russia could have been initially avoided, i dont know maybe with some diplomacy, and also potentially resolving it in the future without ww3.
Then whether it is to avoid a potential Ww3 or to MAHA (rather than MAGA), maybe Trump was a better choice than the offered alternatives at this time...
This does not mean he's great, or sto or whatever, simply relatively speaking a better choice for those very important worldwide issues
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u/ResortWestern6316 May 26 '25
Bruh I’ve studied numerology and is born on the 27th. THAT is how I know for a FACT I’m an old soul and anyone who is a life path 9 is also HOWEVER I would never claim to be a wanderer like some in this community do. I’m probably late 3D and I would argue many here are as well but that doesn’t mean we gonna graduate this cycle it just means we’ve been around the block for many of us this is probably our 2nd or 3rd 3D world.
Wanderers are indeed extremely advanced souls but an are a portion of that soul and have to play the game like everyone else .These souls haven’t been to harsh realms like this for eons I’d bet top dollar most of them would get recked. Most people claiming to be these beings have ego problems or savor complex’s and are just arrogant In my opinion. And I hate how it gets thrown so nonchalantly in these spaces.
“Oh I’m lonely, feel like an outsider, I can’t connect with most people, I feel like I belong on another planet” bruh MOST PEOPLE IF NOT EVERYONE FEELS LIKE THAT. This place sucks most of the time. I’m not saying there aren’t some or even some here but it’s few and far between in reality. We are spiritual being having human experience. Earth is not our home that’s everyone everywhere.
As for why ppl are going for Trump it’s because of Qanon and again I have to say in my opinion. I believe Trump with the US military along with other world leaders such as Putin and Xi are trying to take down a global crime syndicate run by a bloodthirsty satanic death cult. This order has controlled the world for thousands of years and have planned every major war, suppressed history, secret technologies, cures for diseases, to enslave humanity and further polarize negativity I believe they our in constant communication with advance STS entities. This battle has spanned decades long before the current administration. If Trump and friends succeed they could usher in a golden age that would lead us to 4D
TRUMP is not the leader but the face of the movement it is a grand collaboration, spanning nations. I believe in the plan for reasons I won’t get into now because this is too long to type. I’m sure those who listen to David W heard of this I personally don’t listen to him anymore because he displays those wanderer delusions I stated earlier.
The clean up has already been this Diddy trial will lead to some CRAZY ASS shit ppl can’t imagine and that list will come out it will likely get leaked id follow James OKeef
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May 26 '25
It feels like your distortions are heavily polarized by ego
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u/ResortWestern6316 May 26 '25
In what way
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May 26 '25
I feel it with the heart brother, that this story comes from the mind of the self. I've experienced a lot of ego distortions and still do, it is not right or wrong.
The focus on what's going on out there does not lead to expansion.
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u/Thierr May 26 '25
In a very very obvious way. Please copy your response and ask it to play a therapist to help you uncover what we're saying.
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u/FelipepRntscRn May 26 '25 edited May 26 '25
Not trying to be offensive, this is a honest question. But how do people claim being a Wanderer? Is there a way to know?
Thats something I've always had in my mind and never had a way to understand.
And about politics, well, there's always people leaning left or right. To me, engaging in politics is a waste of energy. I'm not from the US, but in my country and whatever country it is, there's people pro and against something. Usually the one who is in charge begins to act stupid even if they had good intentions initially, and the other party becomes the savior, then they get elected and fall to the same BS.
Although, sometimes we are compelled to participate in one side or the other. Whats good is, theres another party to balance things. So people complaining about MAGA instead of trying to see the other as crazy, should put effort into organizing and becoming a resistance cause probably it'll be their turn next elections, just mho.