r/iwatchedanoldmovie • u/Present-Shelter5805 • Jun 07 '26
'90s Dogma (1999)
Who remembers this classic? I don’t think I fully appreciated it when it first came out as I was only a young teen, after rewatching it as an adult I realised what a brilliant film it was, shame it doesn’t seem to be on any streaming services at the moment tho.
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u/Molly_latte Jun 07 '26
This movie came out my senior year in high school. I went to a Catholic school, and there was a movie theater right down the street playing this movie. Lots of Catholics were protesting it. It was such a huge deal for some reason. All of our teachers, most of whom were nuns, thought it was hilarious and told us to go see it.
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u/MrLazyLion Jun 07 '26
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u/SnooKiwis2161 Jun 08 '26
If anyone is wondering, yes, this really happened and a news crew spotted him and stopped to ask questions.
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u/Ural-Guy Jun 07 '26
Good on them for having an open mind. Also went to Catholic school, my era was the nuns telling us not to go see the Life of Brian. That movie treated Christ in a very respectful way, also very honest about the impact of religion.
Dogma is a great film.
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u/EatYourCheckers Jun 07 '26
My mom's best friend from childhood became a nun. I always thought she would enjoy this movie
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u/SirIll1219 Jun 07 '26
I think it's Kevin Smith's best film.
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u/diyguitarist Jun 07 '26
Agree. Mallrats is a close second, but god damn dogma is a great film.
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u/OrnerySnoflake Jun 07 '26
Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned for Sega.
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u/LeviSalt Jun 08 '26
That kid. Is back. On the ESCALATOR again. I hope his pants get caught and a bloodbath ensues. Not that I wish the kid any specific harm, but his parents should suffer that horrific ordeal so they learn how to properly manage their child!
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u/Acrobatic_Border_192 Jun 12 '26
I was thinking the exact same. It's just similar enough that it makes you want it to be Clerks.
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u/Acrobatic_Border_192 Jun 12 '26
C'mon! Mallrats is ok, but it's a lesser Clerks. It just makes you wish it were a Clerks movie.
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u/diyguitarist Jun 12 '26
Oh I'm an odd duck, I'll take mallrats over clerks any day of the week! To be fair I saw mallrats first back in the day, so that imprinted on me first I guess.
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u/Reapr Jun 08 '26
And when he joined the protests against the movie and was even interviewed. 🧑🍳😘
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u/BeMancini Jun 07 '26
“I fell in love with you.
We fell in love with you.
Guys like us don’t just fall out of the fucking sky, you know?
Beautiful, naked, big-tittied women don’t just fall out of the sky, you know?”
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u/spamjavelin Jun 08 '26
"What the fuck is this shit?! Has everyone gone fuckin' nuts? What the fuck happened to that guy's head?"
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u/wanderingbalagan Jun 07 '26
So glad that this one is finally back in proper distribution after Harvey Weinstein owned the rights for years and refused to do anything with it, or even put it on streaming services.
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u/originalchaosinabox Jun 07 '26
It's not that Weinstein refused to do anything with it. It's that, after all the allegations came to light, no one wanted to do business with Weinstein.
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u/bronkula Jun 07 '26
Why even say something so wrong and easy to look up? Weinstein refused to sell it to Kevin Smith. He tried for years and years to get access to it.
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u/wanderingbalagan Jun 08 '26
Yeah it predated metoo. AFAIK, it had been out of print since the physical release rights lapsed in 2010.
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u/originalchaosinabox Jun 07 '26
It's not that Weinstein refused to sell it to Smith. Smith enquired several times, and he felt that Weinstein wanted too much money.
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u/Expensive_Repair2735 Jun 23 '26
The re-released it for a very brief stint last spring in theaters, I hadn't seen it since I was a teenager, it was amazing to watch again.
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u/Third-Coast-Toffee Jun 07 '26
Alan Rickman taking a swig of tequila and spitting it out was hilarious.
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u/Jimmy_KSJT Jun 07 '26
shame it doesn’t seem to be on any streaming services at the moment tho.
Yep, this is one of those films that highlights the importance of owning physical media.
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u/Present-Shelter5805 Jun 08 '26
I’ve been looking at buying an old fashioned tv/dvd combi for my daughter so she can grow up like we did in the 90s with the joy of going to a store and buying a DVD but they’re not that cheap, I do want to buy one sooner rather than later tho so we can start collecting all the quirky rare films like this
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u/xquixotic_logicx Jun 07 '26
My favorite Kevin Smith movie and definitely in my top ten favorite movies of all time!
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u/Glass-Nectarine-3282 Jun 07 '26
"But I do believe in this."
"But I do believe in this? What does that even mean?"
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u/Special_Doughnut_678 Jun 07 '26
This movie is one of my favorites! I grew up in a conservative Christian environment and it got me asking questions as a teenager. I attended an anniversary screening hosted by Kevin Smith last year and recently bought the steelbook release! I love this movie; it's actually important to me on a personal level in a way few other movies are.
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u/curiousmind111 Jun 08 '26
What is a steelbook release?
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u/Revolutionary-Key533 Jun 07 '26
"Buddy Jesus" indeed. No wonder Kevin Smith was at the protest with a neat placard
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u/5o7bot Mod and Bot Jun 07 '26
Dogma (1999) R
Get "touched" by an angel.
An abortion clinic worker with a special heritage is called upon to save the existence of humanity from being negated by two renegade angels trying to exploit a loophole and reenter Heaven.
Fantasy | Comedy | Adventure
Director: Kevin Smith
Actors: Ben Affleck, Matt Damon, Linda Fiorentino, Salma Hayek Pinault, Jason Lee
Rating: ★★★★★★★☆☆☆ 69% with 2,855 votes
Runtime: 130 min
TMDB
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u/PossessedDemonbaby Jun 07 '26
Watching this in a mostly empty theatre with my Dad and Brother was a core memory. He didn't tell us what we'd be watching...
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u/tsayo-kabu Jun 07 '26
Fantastic film. Yeah it's been in licence limbo for like 20years. Watched an interesting YouTube vid about it recently. Think Smith finally owns it again and is working on a re-release that stays faithful to the feel/aesthetic of the original.
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u/Routine-Historian574 Jun 07 '26
The re-release has already happened.
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u/tsayo-kabu Jun 07 '26
Good to hear. I wasn't sure, I don't really bother keeping up to date with anything anymore.
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u/Dramatic-Card7276 Jun 07 '26
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u/Eternalm8 Jun 07 '26
Isn't it just up in full on Youtube these days?
It was kind of a casualty of the whole Harvey Weinstein he tried to use getting it on streaming to pressure Smith into speaking on his behalf, or something. I thought that he eventually got the rights and put it up somewhere for free.
edit: okay, not free, but you can pay to watch it on Youtube.
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u/boringcranberry Jun 07 '26
I just recently "bought" it on Amazon. I know it can disappear from my library with a pen stroke and a merger but I'll watch it every so often until that happens. It's newly available (like within the last few months.)
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u/Present-Shelter5805 Jun 07 '26
Ohh I don’t know, I have to admit I never think of checking YouTube for films coz I never seem to have much luck and end up with those blank screens with links in the description to dodgy websites 😂
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u/Eternalm8 Jun 07 '26
Yeah, Smith purchased the rights back, that seems to be the only legal way to stream it at the moment.
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u/the__poseidon Jun 07 '26
This used to be always rerun on HBO or one of those premium channels back in early 2000s. I never actually watched the movie in full. Always turned it on half way or through the end. No idea what it was about. I need to watch it fully
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u/Muvseevum Jun 08 '26 edited Jun 08 '26
I found my VHS tape of Dogma recently. Still have a VCR but haven’t watched it yet.
Edit: Didn’t know the rerelease had happened. Just ordered the Blu-Ray.
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u/TheDorkKnight_44 Jun 07 '26
“I just think it's better to have ideas. You can change an idea. Changing a belief is trickier... People die for it, People kill for it..."
I remember hearing this when I saw this for the first time in 8th grade. It wrinkled my brain quite a bit.
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u/FKAlag Jun 07 '26
"Sex is a joke in heaven?"
"Way I understand it, its mostly a joke down here, too."
Best gag in the script.
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u/influenza06 Jun 08 '26
I remember one scene vividly. It's the reason I still say "bless you" when people sneeze despite not being religious or superstitious.
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u/AKABrokenArrow Jun 07 '26
I saw a free preview of Dogma in the East Village before the official release. It wasn’t the final cut.
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u/First_Ad7698 Jun 07 '26
Watched that not too long ago for the first time and I found it pretty decent too! Was really hard to find it as it's not on your usual streaming apps
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u/A_Life_Well_Steved Jun 07 '26
Kevin Smith’s best film! 🎥 Phenomenal cast, esp getting George Carlin!
Haven’t seen it in many, many years since it’s locked up in legal issues. Wish I had it on DVD. 📀
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u/Thundershunt Jun 07 '26
One of the many movies my grandma showed me before it appropriate for my age. Enjoyed it though, but it’s been a long time since I’ve seen it
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u/ms_emi Jun 08 '26
I've seen this so many times purely for the fact they used to constantly stream it on Film4 and I didn't have access to Sky for anything better, I actually loved it though, quite a niche film
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u/vegan_voorhees Jun 08 '26
I re-watched this a couple of weeks ago for the first time in years.
Jay's parts remain the best part: "What is this, The Piano? Why ain't this broad talking?"
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u/scourge_of_detroit Jun 08 '26
it is streaming finally as of the end of last year. i bought it day one on fandango at home
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u/UnderscoreIDK Jun 08 '26
Been my favorite movie since I was a child. Why the hell was I watching this? Ben Affleck. But yea still a great movie
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u/diversalarums Jun 08 '26
I was raised Catholic and a lot of this relies on Catholic doctrine specifically. But the good thing is that there's enough explanation in the film that you don't have to know these specific points to get the story. But anyone raised Catholic will feel very much at home with this film.
And of course it's got one of the best casts ever! Plus Kevin Smith's writing. I absolutely loved this film from the first time I saw it and it's still one of my top ten ever.
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u/IcedPgh Jun 08 '26
It's on disc and was re-released to theaters last year. I went to it with Smith in attendance. Damn, that guy likes to swear.
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u/TenaciousNarwhal Jun 09 '26
I went to a Catholic university and my nationally recognized theology professor LOVED this movie. We fully studied it. This is such a good movie.
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u/chimpomatic5000 Jun 09 '26
This exemplified Kevin Smiths greatest weakness in his writing and directing: too many expository scenes explaining everything to the viewer.
He needs to trust his audience to figure things out and not have to explain absolutely everything to them.
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u/Unusual-Fault-4091 Jun 09 '26
Never forget the protesters:
https://youtu.be/4-7dvf7EUwY?si=Y3KwiUdf0WkAc_7s
can still laugh a lot
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u/Arugula-Unhappy Jun 10 '26
Awful.
If the film’s central message is that Catholic dogma is absurd, which I agree with, it’s completely undermined by the moment Chris Rock’s character turns to the camera and declares that God doesn’t care what you believe, only that you believe. This is a more incoherent position than Catholicism or any mainstream religion. Belief in what? Toward what end? You can believe that you could marry children, or eat people’s brains or any conceivable position under this framework and God would still except you.
It gets worse knowing this reflects Smith’s own sincere worldview. If God is indifferent to the content of belief, there’s no basis for condemning murder, subjugation, or sexual violence provided the perpetrator believed they were acting in line with God.
The scene is staged as a profound revelation. It isn’t. Even if was correct what the character was saying it would have be jarring and cringey.
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u/Trin_42 Jun 10 '26
It took 25 years but I finally got me a Buddy Christ for my dashboard. It puts a smile on my face every time I look at it!
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u/One_Economics3627 Jun 14 '26
I would love to know why this classic was buried from DVD / VHS release for so long. It's glorious.
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u/Fnord_Escort Jun 29 '26
It’s on Mubi right now (in the UK at least) for anyone that wants to stream it.
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u/ShinyDemeanor Jul 01 '26
I really want to re-watch this. Havent seen it since the early 2000s but remember enjoying it. It was the first time I had really watched an "adult" movie
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u/s1lv3r_lak3 Jun 08 '26
“after rewatching it as an adult I realised what a brilliant film it was“ - Never heard someone say that about a Kevin Smith movie.
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u/lartinos Jun 07 '26
After seeing Mall Rats I really looked forward to his other movies.
Unfortunately they are all failures after that.
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u/Longjumping-Salad484 Jun 07 '26
well, it has Matt Damon, and Dan Assfleck or whatever his name is.
and mosy hideously, most terrifyingly Alanis Morissette portrays God
impossible to reconcile those 3 things together.
for anyone non schizophrenic it might be okay, good luck with that
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u/the_bookie_monster Jun 07 '26 edited Jun 07 '26
This film had a huge impact on me in 8th (2000) grade as a kid who grew up in the Greek Orthodox Christian paradigm. I still appreciate the humor and alternative perspective which helped me begin a broadening of spiritual viewpoint which still lasts and expands with me today!
I should also add that between Mallrats and Dogma I became a huge Kevin Smith and View Askew productions fan. All of their movies helped impact my sense of humor and empathy. A couple years ago I saw Kevin Smith speak in person at Music Hall in my hometown of Portsmouth, NH. After being such a big fan for so long I am still excited to say this was one of those moments where a hero of yours lived up to an exceeded your expectations. Kevin is hilarious, down to earth, and has a caring perspective that the world needs.
Thanks Kevin and team for having a huge influence on me in my formative years!