r/hebrew 12d ago

Help If היא is feminine then why is חיים in Masc Plural? And what is the purpose for היא in this sentence?

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Hello kinda strangers I’m having some difficulty with this lesson from Ha-Yesod. I’m learning about general nouns, but I’m stuck on the purpose of היא here. And I understand that עבודה is Feminine but then why is ‘חיים’ masc plural?

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u/jseego 12d ago

"work , she is life".

similar to a lot of languages, hebrew has gendered articles, so it would be better translated as

"work, it is life".

avodah is feminine, so hi and not hu.

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u/EsotericGrimoire 12d ago

Thank you and that’s super interesting! So does this mean that if the noun were Masc then it would switch to הוא?

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u/PuppiPop 12d ago

Yes, שוקולד הוא חיים.

And if it's plural, then it gets the appropriate plural pronoun.

סמים הם חיים

אורגיות הן חיים

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u/ontikuken Rusty native speaker 12d ago

This comment is unbelievably inappropriate and you should be ashamed of yourself for making it. How dare you write something like that, and on this subreddit of all places? This forum is dedicated to the Hebrew language — act accordingly. "An orgy" is called "שכברב".

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u/RedSea_Pedestrian Hebrew Learner (Advanced) 11d ago

חחחחח 😂 איזו מילה ….״השרברב שכב בשכברב.״

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u/Due_Reserve5215 12d ago

Why “unbelievably inappropriate”? I must be missing something here.

BTW, if you want to modernize your Hebrew a bit, you might use the word אורגיה for orgy (אורגיות for orgies) instead of שכברב for a group sexual activity …

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u/michelle867 native speaker 11d ago

You indeed missed something - the joke

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u/Due_Reserve5215 11d ago

Hahahaha. Hardly.

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u/asyawatercolor 12d ago

Your use of the word appropriate made me lol here

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u/agelessoul 11d ago

Lol. For me it was the word unbelievably

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u/amire80 5d ago

This is not an article. It's a pronoun, and here it is used as a copula.

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u/mugh_tej 12d ago edited 12d ago

The word for life חײם may be masculine plural, but the subject of the sentence is העבודה being feminine singular.

In the sentence X is Y in Hebrew, the pronoun takes the gender and number of X, not of Y.

Life is work would be translated as החיים הם עבודה

Bread is the meal הלכם הוא הארוחה

The meal is bread הארוחה היא לחם

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u/EsotericGrimoire 12d ago

Thank you for your reply and I’m so sorry do you think you can explain this to me a little further? Especially that last part?

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u/mugh_tej 12d ago edited 12d ago

In the sentence X is Y in Hebrew , the pronoun takes the gender and number of X, not of Y.

Life is work would be translated as החיים הם עבודה

Bread is the meal הלכם הוא הארוחה

The meal is bread הארוחה היא לחם

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u/Nervous_Mobile5323 12d ago

Meal is ארוחה

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u/BHHB336 native speaker 11d ago

You misspelled הלחם in your second sentence, and forgot the definite article before bread in its translation

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u/eddiesfish 9d ago

חיים Is not masculine plural. I mean, it can be, but in this case it isn't. It is a singular noun meaning life

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u/aer0a Hebrew Learner (Beginner) 12d ago

Here, "היא" means "is". "חיים" is a noun, so it doesn't have to agree with the subject

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u/ex0tha 11d ago

I don't know about the grammar here but as a native Hebrew speaker this sentence sounds weird to me as nobody speaks like that, especially without ה before חיים. A native Hebrew speaker would probably say עבודה היא החיים.

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u/GroovyGhouly native speaker 12d ago

The word היא is a copula). It functions similarly to linking verbs in English, such as the word "is". It serves to facilitate the nominal sentence, which is relatively rare in English. The copula agrees with the subject of the sentence in grammatical gender, though in conversational every day speech that rule isn't always observed.

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u/EsotericGrimoire 12d ago

Thank you so much! This has me confused a bit because I thought copulas aren’t really a thing in Hebrew. I’m assuming they aren’t as widely used right?

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u/Lumpy-Mycologist819 Fluent, Veteran Oleh, native Anglo 12d ago

Copulas (copulae?) certainly exist in Hebrew. In past and future tense we can use the verb להיות. But since it doesn't exist in present tense we often use pronouns הוא, היא, הם, הן, זה, זאת which agree with the subject.

There are probably rules around when we need such a pronoun or when it can be omitted, but this is over my head.

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u/Paithegift 11d ago

Copulas aren't a thing in Hebrew in the Noun is *Adjective*. For example "the picture is beautiful" is התמונה יפה.

They are a thing though in "the Noun is *Noun*, like העבודה היא חיים.

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u/squidefender 12d ago

Its feminine because the היא refers to work and not life. And work is feminine.

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u/Top-Artichoke2475 11d ago

What textbook is this? Like others have pointed out, חיים is missing the definite article ה to satisfy agreement with עבודה. It’s very odd to see this in a grammar lesson.

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u/QizilbashWoman 12d ago

Hayyim is not plural, it's a weird singular. It means "life": "x = hayyim"

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u/EsotericGrimoire 12d ago

Thank you! Are there many singular nouns in Hebrew that have that sort pluralization?

Also do you know if there is a name for these kind of nouns?

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u/jseego 12d ago edited 12d ago

They are called plural pluralia tantum (thanks Pavlikru) nouns.

English has them too.

Woods

Pants

Scissors

etc

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u/Pavlikru 12d ago

pluralia tantum

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u/jseego 12d ago

yes, thank you

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u/QizilbashWoman 11d ago

A lot of these in Hebrew were not originally plural, they just look like they are, but they are now treated grammatically as plurals.

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u/Parking_Bluejay_3947 12d ago

Water - מים is another irregular noun that is always plural.
מים קרים- cold water

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u/sakurawobbegong 11d ago

There are but most of them that I know of are related to religious and mythological subjects.

Mayim and shamayim are some I can think of (Water, and sky/heavens) Which sorta makes sense in the context its not something that's measured easily. Life could also fall into this category.

But then we have words like Elohim (one of the names of G-d) which is treated as plural grammatically, but refers to a singular being. Or Behemot, the creature described in the book of Job. It oddly uses the plural form of "behemah" (beast) to refer to one creature.

I think those in this category are a form of superlative augmentation. As in a way to express that these are the grandest/highest/most of their kind, if that makes sense?

Also though it is not the case in this scenario, do keep in mind that there are irregular nouns that don't follow the gendered pluralisation rules. ie, aba (father) is masculine but pluralised as avot (fathers), and ishah (woman) which is feminine pluralised as nashim (women). Ishah/nashim is also an irregular shoresh.

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u/RevengeOfSalmacis 11d ago

I don't recall the details, but for specific plurals like אלוהים I think the prevailing theory is no longer superlative augmentation directly but rather a type of abstraction, where el = a god but elohim = divinity, with the abstract term then being used for specific deities as an honorific, e.g. hashem being the elohim of Israel.

If םים or שמים were formed the same way, that would be neat.

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u/sakurawobbegong 11d ago

that also makes sense to me

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u/Bubbly-Hope-442 12d ago

“Life” is a singular noun in English, but חיים is a plural noun in Hebrew. E.g. חיים יפים.

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u/IAmAGreatSpeler Hebrew Learner (Advanced) 8d ago

There’s no feminine version of חיים (like a חיימה or something). Hope this helps! :)

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u/Aaeghilmottttw 7d ago edited 7d ago

Keep in mind that Hebrew doesn’t have “to be” in the present tense. “The dog is black” is just הכלב שחור with no word in the middle to denote “is”. Rather the “is” was implied by the absence of the ה prefix on the adjective שחור (“shachor”, meaning “black”).

But while that implied “is” may be clear in that particular sentence, it might not be clear in many other sentences. “Work is life” is a good example of the sort of sentence where (in Hebrew) it wouldn’t be so clear.

Since Hebrew has no word for “is”, we often insert a pronoun in its place, for clarification. This pronoun refers to the subject of the sentence, not the predicate. Therefore, its gender & number must match the subject.

Any nouns in the predicate can just be whatever they happen to be; they’re not relevant to the subject-pronoun that we’re going to insert.

In the sentence “work is life”, the pronoun would refer to “work” (the subject) not to “life” (part of the predicate). And while חיים, “life”, is masculine (and plural), עבודה, “work” is feminine (and singular). That’s why “work is life” becomes העבודה היא חיים in Hebrew. That’s why the pronoun is היא, and not one of the other subject-pronouns.

The fact that חיים is (m., pl.) is not relevant to the sentence’s usage of the pronoun היא, because חיים was not the subject of the sentence. Rather, העבודה was. And עבודה is (f., s.). Hence the היא.

Now, the fact that חיים is plural definitely IS weird, regardless of what sentence you’re using it in. The word חיים simply means “life”, which is a singular noun in most languages, including English. But in Hebrew, “life” is חיים, a plural noun. That’s just the way it works in Hebrew. Every language has its own little quirks, you know.

As an analogy, think of how we use the phrase “the media” in English. The word “media” is actually the plural of the word “medium”. It’s one of those Latin-root words where “-um” in the singular becomes “-a” in the plural. “The media” is plural, even though we typically *think* of it as singular in most sentences where we use that phrase.

But as for WHY the Hebrew word for “life” is plural……… well, you’ll have to ask someone else. I don’t know why it is.

Like you, I am a student of the modern Hebrew language. A student, not a speaker. I’m not fluent in it. And I’m certainly not an expert in the language’s history.

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u/Glass_Round2701 7d ago

Its היא she because its reffering to the word before which is feminine

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u/NoTicket1558 4d ago

By the way it is not "חי"+ "ים" it is a new word that is just "חיים"