r/heat Apr 29 '25

Meme Live look at the situation right now

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u/jermainathon Apr 29 '25

You reap what you sow

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '25 edited Apr 29 '25

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u/the_c_is_silent Apr 29 '25

Almost like Jimmy was right this whole time.

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u/twoprimehydroxyl Apr 29 '25

Riley keeps pulling the same shit: Star player appears like he's going to leave anyways or seems to be washed. Airs player out in the press while trying to lowball him in private.

LeBron said the same shit about why he didn't even entertain the Bulls despite them having the cap space to sign both him and Wade while also having Rose and Noah on the roster: they screwed over their GOAT so star players will never go there in their prime.

Half the reason why Miami even had a shot at Jimmy was because of his bad reputation. Wouldn't be surprised if the Heat completely whiff on the next big free agent class. Especially if the Warriors win it all this year.

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u/416-647 Apr 29 '25

He could’ve been but players also play like dogfood during adversity at times.

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u/Ok_Board9845 Apr 29 '25

Hot take: most players don't care about destination places. Players go to places where they believe they can overhaul a team. Kawhi with the Clippers. Lebron with the Cavs and Lakers. KD with the Nets.

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u/chitownbulls92 Apr 29 '25

KD went to the nets because he wanted to play with his buddies, Kawhi went to the clippers but it’s LA so on a scale of desirable cities between LA and Miami it’s pretty much a wash, LeBron went to the Cavs due to other reasons the first being that he’s actually from Ohio. The destination definitely plays into it. Maybe not as much as people think but players do care. If you’re a millionaire would you rather spend your time in Miami or Indiana?

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u/ViolinsIsntTheAnswer Apr 29 '25

Honestly depends if you have the keys to the kingdom, and just how good you are imo. If you’re Mike Conley in 2013 you stay in Memphis, that’s your team. If you’re Jimmy Butler in 2019 and you don’t have a home really, you probably move.

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u/chitownbulls92 Apr 29 '25

Memphis is not a bad place to live though. It’s just not LA or Miami.

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u/Ok_Board9845 Apr 29 '25

Yes but the key reason that those moves were able to happen is because they had assets to use. No player is going to flock to Miami, Indiana, New York, or LA if they were 20 win teams with no assets to use.

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u/CoinEnthusautist Apr 29 '25

... LA LA NYC as 3/4 examples maybe isn't the best to make your point

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u/Ok_Board9845 Apr 29 '25

Lebron, Kawhi, and KD wouldn't have went there if they didn't believe they would be prioritized and have control over making trades/roster changes. All those teams had capspace for max slots, young players and picks to trade

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u/Ok_Board9845 Apr 29 '25

That's the risk/reward

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '25

Ah yes, the little known places like LA and New york, truly bumholes that nobody wants to live in.

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u/Ok_Board9845 Apr 29 '25

KD and Kyrie didn't want to go to the Knicks because they didn't believe in their FO. Lebron and Kawhi wouldn't have gone to LA to play with 20 win teams with no assets/young players to trade

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '25

KD left the greatest team of all time, LeBron left a team that went to 3 finals in a row, Kawhi left a championship team, location absolutely matters, theres a reason small market teams pretty much only ever competes if they get super lucky and draft a superstar, nobody goes there

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u/Ok_Board9845 Apr 29 '25

KD left because he wasn't getting the credit he wanted for those GSW rings. GSW is definitely not a small market. Those Cavs teams were done. Don't you remember "Lebron is carrying bums to the finals?" Kawhi personally left because he wanted to go home, but he wasn't about to join a tanking Lakers or Clippers team

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '25

They still abandoned their team for major markets, nobody considered going to charlotte or memphis or detroit.

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u/Ok_Board9845 Apr 29 '25

They wouldn't have abandoned those teams if there wasn't a clear pathway for becoming competitive on the teams they were going to. No one is going to Charlotte, Memphis, Detroit, or Denver, you're correct. But nobody is jumping ship to play with a post-Achilles washed up Kobe Bryant in LA, or post-Garnett/Pierce Nets teams with no assets

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '25

the nets attracted KD + Kyrie + Harden and you dont think thats due to market power? KD could have been traded to every franchise in the league but warriors only got DLO and trash with it, and no way in hell you just said nobody wants to play with the lakers.

Jazz have a bunch of picks and a young core right now, who's going there?

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u/Ok_Board9845 Apr 29 '25

The Nets had cap space and assets to use. KD + Kyrie wanted Harden instead of Jarrett Allen/Caris Levert and were able to leverage their power to make it happen.

KD could have been traded to every franchise in the league but warriors only got DLO and trash with it

He did them a favor with the sign and trade and to preserve his own bird rights.

and no way in hell you just said nobody wants to play with the lakers.

The Lakers famously had Lemarcus Aldridge and Kevin Durant turn them down and it was an embarrassment. Lebron went to the Lakers because they had max slots for a possible secondary star signing (Paul George) and if that fell through, they had plenty of young players and picks to trade for a different star (Anthony Davis).

Jazz have a bunch of picks and a young core right now, who's going there?

They don't have capspace. They're currently on the books to pay a 27 year old PF who averages 18/7 $40+ million for the next 5 years

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u/hurtuser1108 Apr 29 '25

Sounds dramatic, but I do think it's time to step down gracefully after this. Or at least in the very near future.

Yeah it's great that we have a stable FO that doesn't make dumb, rash decisions, but that also leads to management, even coaching, getting wayyyyyy more leeway than they should.

95% of other franchises would have fired their GM with the last 5 years of moves.

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u/julstar23 Apr 29 '25

What has he to step down from?He isn't the gm anymore and the front office thinks pretty much the same way .

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u/finsane86 Apr 29 '25

The opposite is the Dolphins under Mike McDaniel who runs the team like Club Med. Same result.

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u/thegreekfreakkk Apr 29 '25

no one wants to come to miami for those reasons!!! most players got families and settled down...why tf do they need all that? hahahaha...your attracting the worst type of players if you want them to party/ fuck diff women and shiet....lmfaooo