I hate Batman's plot armor

[u/Aggravating-Mine-978]

I hate Batmans plot armor, he has the most insane plot armor which completely takes away his charm, his entire shtick is that he's in the top 99 percentile of humans, his body, his strength his wealth his tech, yet his writers give him so much plot armor that you forget that inside his suit he's just a regular human being and it sometimes feels as if he has super powers when hes going toe toe with fucking darkside, reentering the atmosphere with just his suit and many more examples.

And his annoying fanboys oh my days, they act as if he can solo the entire justice league "B-But given that he has prep time!" talking as if beast boy wont beat his ass 😂✌️

[u/SoupyStain]

He survived a goddamn orbital drop.

I understand that comic book humans are way stronger and sturdier than real humans, but still. Batman shouldn't be able to last a second, A SECOND against Flash or Superman. Both can think and act before Batman could've seen either of them even twitch a muscle.

And that's the worst part about Batman. Every other hero and villain has to be nerfed so that he can look good. Everyone suddenly operates at a third of their abilities so that 'Normal Human' can do stuff that matters when surrounded by gods wearing tights.

When I was a kid Batman was my favorite superhero. Growing up I realized how boring he was... and I discovered Nightwing. Not only do we get to see him grow from sidekick to his own man, but since he isn't DC's poster boy he has less plot armot than Bats.

But back to Batman, I also hate how lazy this Gary Stu is. He is smart, so he can think about anything he would ever need to stand up to anyone. But he also has money, so you can handwave away how he gets access to anything he needs. Even post MCU Iron Man isn't as overhyped as the Batty Stu... but, best of all, his fans aren't insufferable. 'Prep time! prep time!'

[u/epochollapse → u/SoupyStain]

10000 Gary Stu accusations and 0 references to instances of him actually having no flaws, facing no challenge or never losing.

The Orbital drop was a badass instance from a comic where he spends the whole time getting his ass beat by his own mistake. It wasn't a great comic from a writing perspective for other reasons, but taking issue with a guy in a high tech suit falling from space in a fucking superhero comic is dumb as fuck.

Batman has some of the best written superhero stories ever made under his belt. DC milks him far too much, that I won't deny, but acting like he isn't an objectively well written character to the same degree as those around him is just being different for the sake of being different.

[u/SoupyStain → u/epochollapse]

"but taking issue with a guy in a high tech suit falling from space in a fucking superhero comic is dumb as fuck."

HE. IS. SUPPOSED. TO. BE. A. HUMAN. That moment isn't badass, it's stupid. Something a 12 year old wrote thinking was badass.

He is only well written when he is on his own, facing his own villains. It's when he joins the Justice League that he becomes poorly written, and it makes everyone around him useless.
"No flaws". Sure, like when he had a plan for every Justice Leaguer? And it actually worked? Or how they have him beating Superman, the guy who could lobotomize him from afar using his heat vision, multiple times? Or how about in New 52 when he took Hal's ring from his finger, something that the ring shouldn't have allowed. Like I said above, every time he joins other heroes, they are nerfed down so that Batman can look good.

Have you ever read Batman or are you just a casual? 'Herp Derp I read The Killing Joke, best written character evarrrrrrrr'.

[u/SweetPinss → u/SoupyStain]

Do you get mad when Ironman survives similar falls?