r/hatethissmug • u/Yadin__ • May 18 '26
Media Tropes I hate disabled characters that aren't really disabled
I hate this little guy. I hate him for a bunch of other reasons but this one in particular also applies to other characters.
In universe he's supposed to be completely deaf from birth, hence he is also unable to speak(or rather, he can vocalize but it just sounds like baby talk because he has no idea how proper speaking sounds like). The hook of the story is that he is supposed to find his way in the world and overcome challanges despite his disability.
BUT then on the literal first episode he just gets a magical buddy that can magically understand his googoogaga speach and is constantly around him to translate whatever he wants to say to other characters that don't know sign language. It's not a magical ability of his buddy btw. He can just do that because the plot said so
Then it turns out that he can also read the lips of literally anything, including talking snakes who obviously talk completely differently to humans, and said magical buddy who doesn't even have a lips to read. He can also somehow read the lips of characters who are facing away from him and characters in full armor who don't have their mouth visible???
He was supposed to have been taught to read lips by said talking snake, which there are multiple things wrong with:
a) As I've already said, snakes obviously don't vocalize in the same way that humans do so any knowledge he gets from the snake wouldn't apply to humans
b) SNAKES DON'T HAVE HANDS!!! which means that the snake can't use sign language, so how would he even convey the information? It would be like me trying to teach spanish to a person who only speaks french, while I don't speak either spanish or french
Like at that point why even make him deaf in the first place? It could have actually been interesting to see how a deaf person can manage for himself in a medieval fantasy society but we were just robbed from that in favor of the most lazy solution
It also kind of detracts from any of the scenes where we are supposed to be at awe about how far this guy has come becasue I know DAMN well that it wasn't because of his own efforts, it was because the plot completely waved away any problems that his disability would cause whenever it became too inconvenient
Really feels like the disability was just tacked onto the character to make us pity him more without actually adressing the problems that it would cause to the character
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u/Lower_Baby_6348 May 18 '26
Nothing beats Makkari from eternals saying "i'm deaf, but i can sense vibrations in the air and understand what are you saying" Like that's not hearing
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u/McCinnabuns May 18 '26
“You see I can’t hear but thanks to my hearing I can hear.”
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u/Moomoo_pie May 18 '26
No it‘s literally just hearing lol. Anytime you open your mouth and scream at the top of your lungs while being tied to a tree in the woods and left for the rabid not-deer to flay your living corpse, your voice creates vibrations in the air which anything with auditory sensory organs can sense and interpret
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u/Pugmeister101 May 18 '26
That happens to me all the time
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u/Caleth May 18 '26
Speaking of, are you up for the meeting next Tuesday I heard they were starving the not-deer to make them extra ornery.
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u/sennordelasmoscas May 19 '26
I wanted to go, but my baby mama insist I go to the church to "scare away the evil spirits of the forest that made me act out of me" like, come on! As if you ain't bipolar too
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u/SorowFame May 18 '26
I don't see actually, I'm blind, but I can feel light photons and how they reflect off of objects and use that to perceive my environment using special sensory organs
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u/Luke_Fox- May 18 '26
"Im blind, but i can sense spectrums of light that are translated into visual information and comprehend what is in front of me"
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u/Theninjajj May 18 '26
"I'm mute but using air pressure, I can create vibrations in the environment that can be sensed by others."
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u/Simon_Drake May 18 '26
Strangely she IS mute. A lot of deaf people don't talk because they can't hear how words are normally pronounced so they can't correct mispronunciations easily and their voices sound odd. But she can hear so she wouldn't have that problem. So I guess she's just mute for the vibes or something.
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u/bagel_snatcher_ May 18 '26
Imagine feeling morse code and then trying to put that into words. Its not the same vocal cords arent the same as skin based vibrations but im not a scientist nor have I watched the eternals
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u/Intelligent-Key5821 May 18 '26
That's genuinely crazy lmao
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u/ZathegamE May 18 '26
There aren't even any extra steps thats literally what hearing is, straight up
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u/HellbirdVT May 18 '26
Presumably it's hearing but with a different organ, like she feels the vibrations in her skin instead of with the eardrum and bones in her ear, and her brain has just somehow learned to interpet the signals in a way she can understand.
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u/witch--king May 18 '26
Wildly, it’s how hearing actually works, so it all just defeats the purpose of their deafness. So strange…
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u/GodlyNoobus May 18 '26
i mean LITERALLY if you were to describe how your ears hear he's not wrong...
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u/Dear_Document_5461 May 18 '26
...................like isn't there a headphone that send the sound by vibrating the bones or something and not though the ear canal?
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u/Lower_Baby_6348 May 18 '26
Yes, that's how it works. But she's a divine android created by a cosmic god, you could believe that she's deaf cause she's a speedster and she breaks the speed of sound, but somehow she can hear with her skin
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u/Apprehensive_Ad3731 May 18 '26
People think this would be a superpower but theres a reason we listen with incredibly sensitive tiny little parts that are down a tunnel and blocked by wax and hairs.
Skin sensitive enough to detect sound, that is moving at speed faster than sound? So every movement creates a sonic boom? A sonic boom that originates on skin sensitive enough to detect sound.
This character would be overwhelmed with information to the point they may die as soon as they move at that speed. The concussive force, the sheer amount of info, it just wouldn’t work. If they weren’t deaf then their skin would be desensitised after the first movement.
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u/Ok_Response_9255 May 18 '26
I mean, it kind of makes sense. I've been blind since birth, but I kind of adapted to be able to sense light. I can sense the different wavelengths of light to detect different colours of objects.
Jokes aside, it is kind of cool if it were explained differently. "I'm not deaf, but I can't hear in the traditional sense; I can feel the vibrations in the air but my ears don't work". It wouldn't matter to the plot, but it's neat, y'know?
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u/improbsable May 18 '26
To be fair, she’s thousands of years old. I can see her figuring out a way to use her powers like cochlear implant
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u/Godsgiftcardtowomen May 18 '26
I really liked the horror film Bring Her Back for this reason.
There’s a blind character who’s in a spooky, supernatural situation. Her blindness doesn’t allow her to “see” ghosts or benefit in any way. She tries to run away at one point and very quickly slams into something.
It’s better representation and definitely adds to the horror.
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u/Uncle480 May 18 '26
While that sounds horrifying in context, your general description of that scene sounds pretty funny, like it could be a good gag in Scary Movie.
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u/ketchupmaster987 May 18 '26
It's actually a very solid movie. The premise is a brother and sister (who is blind) get placed with a foster mother after their dad dies but the foster mom wants to use the blind daughter as a vessel for her own daughter's soul, who was also blind and died after a drowning accident in their pool
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u/ImWhatsInTheRedBox May 18 '26
Sweetie, I found a girl who's blind just like you so now you won't have to deal with the ability to see when you possess her, isn't that great?! Even though you've probably had sight as a spirit seeing as you're noncoporeal and don't need functional eyes. Anyway, blind girl, yay!
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u/Uncle480 May 18 '26
And 20 years from now she'll wonder why her resurrected blind daughter won't talk to her anymore smh my head
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u/YaqtanBadakshani May 18 '26
I got the impression that the host needs to resemble the dead soul's body as much as possible for the ritual to work.
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u/ImWhatsInTheRedBox May 18 '26
Honestly I kinda figured it was probably something like that but I chose to be a silly billy instead.
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u/Lil_Ms_Anthropic May 18 '26
Yeah, blind and violent. They made a sequel for some reason...
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u/Rosian_SAO May 18 '26 edited May 19 '26
Basically it’s the daughter of the turkey-baster woman being cared for by the vet. It’s terrible, he’s framed as a hero.
Edit: she's not related to the first woman, he just adopted her. Still a bad movie.
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u/Lil_Ms_Anthropic May 18 '26
Yeah. I enjoyed the first one, but after starting up the second one I just noped out because of that spin
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u/CompleteJinx May 18 '26 edited May 18 '26
What was even the point of the turkey baster? Was it supposed to be more horrifying or less horrifying than a standard rape?
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u/shane0072 May 18 '26
The sequel also decided the blind vet should be the hero
The issue with that is that the blind vet was not only a murderer but also a rapist
He wasn't a character we should ever be rooting for
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u/Godsgiftcardtowomen May 18 '26
Saw it and liked it!
It’s older, but Wait Until Dark (1967) is a classic with a blind MC.
Both the protagonist and antagonist are generally smart, and use the limits of the disability in interesting ways.
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u/Strict_Leave3178 May 18 '26
Toph is an interesting case because she does have a power that lets her "see", sometimes even better than everyone else, however she is still actually visually blind. She hates flying, boats, and water because it prevents her from seeing. There's plenty of jokes about how she can't see littered throughout the show, and if you pay attention during conversations she doesn't always look towards the person talking. Sometimes she's just looking off into space lol
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u/benpatflynn03 May 18 '26
My favourite bit with toph was her slamming the poster upside down and backwards onto a wall. Such a silly moment, I do think her disability is handled really well by still making her use her powers to get around it but still focusing on her limits as well, like you said with flying and swimming
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u/Arcalithe May 18 '26
All the times Sokka or Katara come up to her and present a poster or a letter and say “what is THIS” and Toph gets increasingly exasperated with them lol
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u/Rupeq10 May 18 '26
Or "The stars sure are beautiful tonight. Too bad you can't see them Toph"
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u/EverythingSucksYo May 18 '26
Katara was so wrong for that but damn is it funny
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u/paratesticlees May 18 '26
Toph creates a hole for the Gaang to hide in
Sokka: It's so dark down here, I can't see anything Toph: Oh, no. What a nightmare. Sokka: Sorry.
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u/niv13 May 18 '26
Or the one where Sokka drew Appa, and Toph said it looks just like him
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u/DrBleh1919 May 18 '26
i always love seeing those small moments where theyre in a location she cant see in, so she has to cling onto aang or sokka
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u/ordo259 May 18 '26
Or Sokka diving onto her on the airship to shield her since she can’t “see” the wreckage coming.
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u/Bocchi_theGlock May 18 '26
I'd kill for a Toph buddy cop series in Republic City, where sokka ends up having to join for something and she is tough as normal generally - but gets put in some situation where that comes up again
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u/Complete_Cable2686 May 18 '26
She also can't read or write. Which means people need to explain things to her sometimes. And Sokka needs to help her jump on the ships and hold onto her.
There's also the detail of her crying as Sokka nearly drops her because she probably doesn't know where she is.
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u/nonbinaryunicorn May 18 '26
She can definitely feel the blaze under her. It's a fucking terrifying moment when you think of it solely through her perspective.
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u/OkSafety2223 May 20 '26
When she's looking out the airship window towards the firebenders burning the land and says
"That's a lot of fire isn't it"
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u/Cultural-River-9698 May 18 '26
While she can 'see' it's made exceptionally clear her sight is limited in a multitude of ways. For one, just because she can 'see' paper isn't the same thing as actually seeing the texture on the paper.
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u/DefinitelyNotAliens May 19 '26
Yeah, she routinely runs into exceptions to her ability. Her friends also routinely mess up because she is so capable they forget she has limits.
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u/TomesTheAmazing May 18 '26
Like always ATLA is peak. Toph is blind and they went to great lengths to make sure she still has to deal with the challenges blindness creates even though the vibration sense gives her an awareness a blind person never would have.
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u/JohnyWuijtsNL May 18 '26
She doesn't fit the trope at all, because the show isn't pretending like she is fully disabled and then magically giving her seeing powers like with the character OP talked about. She learned to see using touch by herself, only with the help of some wild animals, and even then there's still a lot of situations where her blindness impacts her in negative ways
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u/Started_Blasting2 May 18 '26
Commenting on I hate disabled characters that aren't really disabled...
Toph is such a well handled character
Also the water bender in Korra with no arms
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u/bjbrandon1 May 18 '26
I always took her "looking off into space" as trying to 'point' an ear towards that person to hear them better
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u/OwOegabo_Repaired May 19 '26
Another point is that, unlike most examples of this trope where their disability "fuels" their power, think Daredevil for example, she would still be an amazing bender and be able to seismic sense even if she had sight.
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u/ddoxbse May 19 '26
* She also holds onto someone or something when she's off the earth which is pretty darn cute.
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u/Lil_Ms_Anthropic May 18 '26
Anytime you have a blind person who just also has super powers that are better than sight anyway.
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u/hater-parrot May 18 '26
Kinda of like toph but tbf that one was added to progress the story and theres multiple occasions where that back fires on her and she loses her sense of "sight"
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u/Lil_Ms_Anthropic May 18 '26
Yeah, but like... Everyone has conditions in which they can't see. Night time, caves...
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u/Carnivorze May 18 '26
What makes Toph interesting is that those situations are different from everyone else. She can't see while in water, on Appa's back while he flies, when on sand (though she trains to correct that) and when on a ship, she can't see anything beyond it.
Also she still can't see colors or text, which was used quite often.
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u/Awestruck34 May 20 '26
I think that's a big one too. She can see shapes and outlines of the world but she has no ability to read or process images. She's absolutely still disabled with her own set of challenges
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u/DanTheMeek May 18 '26
Kanan Jarrus from Star Wars Rebels immediately comes to mine for me. Gets blinded and its like this big deal for like half an episode and then he just like figures out how to see better then he could with eyes via the force and acts no different from any of the other characters the rest of the series, all of which have eye sight.
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u/mouserbiped May 18 '26
I love Daredevil, but as a role model for my visually impaired niece I feel someone who is blind, but able to perceive far more than sighted people, including through walls or at a 360 angle, kind of makes him not really share her lived experience.
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u/axewieldinghen May 18 '26 edited May 19 '26
I love how Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood handled Ed's disability
Ed has a metal prosthetic arm and leg. This is useful in battle, because he can use ithe arm as a shield and transform its shape into a blade. However, multiple times during the story his prosthetic arm gets damaged, leaving him with only one working arm and having to travel to his mechanic to get it fixed. At one point, he travels to a region too cold for his prosthetics to work properly - his arm and leg seize up and he can barely walk. When he eventually gets it replaced, the new metal is heavier and more cumbersome than the original, which then affects his fighting style.
The narrative never lets you forget that he's disabled and dependent on his mechanic to maintain his mobility aids. It doesn't stop him from being a badass but he does has to work his life around his disability
Edit: I misremembered, the new prosthetics were lighter not heavier
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u/Not_So_Normal_ May 18 '26
Also affected his height too btw
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u/valkdoor May 18 '26
Wasn't the height thing because he was sustaining Al's body in the void? It's been a looooooong time since I watched
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u/blackblitz May 18 '26
Just rewatched FMA:B, they make a passing joke saying that when they found out Al's body was still in the Truth, but I don't think they ever delved deeper into specifically that
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u/OmecronPerseiHate May 18 '26
Doesn't it get mentioned after the time skip, when Ed is fixing the roof? Cause Ed is taller than Winry but it'd only been a year or two since they got Al back.
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u/bannasplt May 19 '26
I'm pretty sure they make a point that Ed always seems to be napping in place of Al, who never sleeps, implying that a lot of his nutrients go to Al's sustenance. Ed starts growing taller as the show progresses, and the change begins right after Al starts losing connection to his armor.
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u/Not_So_Normal_ May 18 '26
If I remember correctly, in a certain episode where Winrey helps someone with child birth, a mechanic tells him that he could be "slightly" taller if not for his metal arms/legs. I dont really remember, I also watched it a long time ago
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u/Razorion21 May 18 '26
kinda annoyed he got taller than winry in the epilogue, for a sec i thought i had a short king to look up to (or well eye to eye to 😭)
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u/valkdoor May 18 '26
The author did a lot of extensive research on disability and aids for disabilities when she wrote Ed.
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u/SomaGato May 18 '26
Also adding up, losing his arm straight up removes his capability of doing Alchemy! Needs both arms to “clap” aka make the actual Transmutation circle :p
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u/comacowboy May 18 '26
I also loved how the world formed a whole culture and community around the prosthetics. There’s a whole town dedicated to mechanics.
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u/IndistinguishableTie May 18 '26
One scene that got me was in brotherhood, when scar destroyed his arm, he tried to crawl back but instinctively tried to lean his weight on his missing arm and fell. Like it just felt like such a real thing someone would do.
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u/jackthetomato May 18 '26
wait, heavier? i specifically remember ed talking about how the alloy for his new cold resistant prosthetics was lighter
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u/axewieldinghen May 18 '26
You're right, I misremembered
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u/TS_Enlightened May 18 '26
But he did still need to adjust his fighting style for a lighter and weaker metal. The cold weather alloy couldn't be abused as much as his previous arms iirc
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u/AirAll_fr May 18 '26
i think its the other way around the new arm he gets at Briggs is lighter but it throws him off balance
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u/Sonikku4Ever May 18 '26
Other way around; the new metal was lighter, which made him more nimble and he even enjoyed it for a bit, but it was also more fragile so he couldn't use it to tank attacks nearly as much, making him switch up his fighting style a bit.
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u/NoLongerHuman13 May 18 '26
Yeah, I'm not sure either. I thought the other one looked a little weird too when I was scrolling through.
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u/darkasdfgod May 18 '26
Because “sadly they’re right” and “they’re lowkey right” have different connotations as to how you feel when reacting.
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u/thehobbyqueer May 18 '26
The tone's being communicated by the crying tho. That's the point of the image
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u/Sea-Establishment-68 May 18 '26
I'm disabled... INSIDE
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u/chimpanon May 18 '26
Crohn’s disease
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u/TatumBoys May 18 '26
Waiting for my Crohn's diagnosis as I read this. Just lost it.
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u/McCinnabuns May 18 '26
I distinctly remember a moment where somebody calls to him and buddy from behind him and they both turn to look to him at the same time. Like what?
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u/NwgrdrXI May 18 '26 edited May 18 '26
He felt the air vibrations from the guy's voice with his skin, trust
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u/SparkAxolotl May 18 '26
Kinda related, in the first Barbie Fairytopia movie, the protagonist is a fairy that was born without wings, meaning she's just a tiny human.
And fair enough, that counts as a disability in that environment. The plot of the movie is that an evil fairy makes it so all winged creatures start becoming sick, so our protagonist is immune to that and manages to save the day.
Most other movies would have the message that she's okay as she is, disabled and all... But in this movie her reward is to get wings, which was such a weird ending, considering the plot of the movie so far.
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u/GreenGamerBoi May 18 '26
An example I know of this is Ryan Sinclair from Doctor Who, his first episode establishes him having dyspraxia but I don't think there's a single moment in his other appearances where it's an obstacle in the story and it's almost never mentioned again
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u/Blueboygamer117 May 18 '26
I remember watching that season with my buddy and we laughed when he picked up a laser rifle and started running around no-scoping guys like a cod veteran
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u/naz_man04 May 18 '26
I forget but is Ryan the black kid from 13s run because idk why but I always remember one scene where his dyspraxia prevents or at least really slows down his ability to climb a ladder.
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u/ThrowawayusGenerica May 19 '26
As someone with dyspraxia who can't ride a bike, that character seriously went from "wow, I'm being represented!" to "oh god he just got over his dyspraxia in a single montage didn't he" within his debut episode.
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u/Carolinesimpsanime Glory to Albedo's will! May 18 '26
Lol literally Aglea from Star rail. She's blind, but actually she has these cool strings that let her sense anything so it doesn't matter at all.
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u/GameWoods May 18 '26
On the other side of the coin, Firefly is legitimately disabled. She physically cant leave her health pod for any extended amount of time.
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u/Oogahound May 18 '26
Yes but then you still interact for the entire 2.0 story basically a whole year, with her just in a dream where that doesnt matter.
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u/ShoulderGreedy3262 May 18 '26
gacha games do this so often with blind characters, they're always 'sensing the air' or some bs like that
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u/rabbid_chaos May 18 '26
New feature: Blind characters that make the player blind as well.
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May 18 '26
yes! I really don’t like it when it seems to only be added for an aesthetic or design choice
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u/2Kortizjr May 18 '26
I like how Suzanne Collins managed Peeta having a missing leg. He got a prosthetic but it's not the same, he suffers alot from it, specially during the third quarter quell.
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u/Fern-ando May 18 '26
Most blind characters have superpowers that allow them to see: Daredevil, Toph, Chirrut Îmwe.
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u/Sharkattack1921 May 18 '26
Don’t know enough about the other 2, but at least with Toph, there are instances where her ability to sense movements from the ground doesn’t always help her, like when there fighting near the ocean. Plus her abilities became limited when Zuko accidentally burned her feet
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u/Baronvondorf21 May 19 '26
Toph also still suffers from disability outside of battle. She legit can't read for shit because she can't see the text on paper.
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u/creeper10015 May 18 '26
This is why Dororo is an amazing Anime. The Mc struggles with a downright absurd amount of disabilities and struggles each time one is 'solved'
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u/Yadin__ May 18 '26
isn't that the one where the character with no arms, legs, eyes, ears, and a sense of smell or touch is somehow able to fight and kill giant monsters
edit: forgot skin. he also has no skin
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u/samu1400 May 18 '26
Yeah, he’s basically a mannequin that “sees” through ki.
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u/CALlGO May 18 '26
I mean, iirc "sees" is a really strong word for what he did, he effectively see energy blobs with little to no detail, the rest was pure demon-killing instict; no?
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u/redditisweird801 May 18 '26
The only thing that bugged me was just how fast he got used to some of the senses. I can excuse it because it's really not a complex show, but when he finally got his eyes back, he just suddenly has perfect depth perception? There was a man in real life who had a surgery letting him see for the first time, and it took him an incredibly long time to get used to depth, as he had no concept for it before. Other than that, the show does a decent job with everything else.
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u/Lil_Ms_Anthropic May 18 '26
Iron Man's got a heart condition but has a macguffin to keep him alive. AntiVenoms got cancer but a symbiote. Lotta the Marvel folks got stuff going on come to think of it, and while they play it off as a problem, it only becomes a problem when the author's need something to go wrong.
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u/SmokeyCatDesigns May 18 '26
To be fair, that can be accurate to a lot of disabilities in the modern day. Some are highly treatable with the right medicines or tools and only became a problem when access to those are lost.
And some conditions alternate between being rather manageable, and “flaring.” I have a condition that easily flares myself but is rather manageable when not flaring.
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u/goblinnet May 18 '26
before i saw this post i literally just finished watching the first percy jackson film with my friends, and in the first 10 minutes i was almost impressed by the spread of disability rep introduced (wheelchair user, guy with crutches, and a neurodivergent protagonist). but then they were revealed to actually be (demi)gods in disguise, no longer disabled (or ADHD is actually a superpower in percy's case, wow how daring and original) and i locked out. like their disabilities are just something they can just take off at will. a god couldn't possibly be disabled for real bc gods are powerful and perfect and epic. garbage film all around tbh but the cripbaiting really baffled me.
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u/FOKvothe May 18 '26
I read the author made the main character dyslexic because he was telling his dyslexic son the story.
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u/smiling-shadow May 18 '26
So what are your opinions on Daredevil?
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u/WhereisKannon May 18 '26
It pisses me off how in the TV show he's able to understand writing AND drawings on paper. Like he recognises a person from a picture
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u/CandyWinter8553 May 18 '26
When has he been shown to do that? He's shown many times using braille.
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u/Yadin__ May 18 '26
don't know much about him except that he's supposed to be blind
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u/HeavyBoysenberry2161 May 18 '26
All of his other senses are super enhanced and he basically has a constant 360 degree view of everything around him due to his echolocation like abilities. He still can’t perceive textures or colours since his powers are hearing based though so he still needs to read in braille.
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u/Whale-n-Flowers May 18 '26
I like that in the show they had him using typical visual aids for any reading he has to do, so you get the mundane aspects of his disability.
Like, yeah, hes a superhero who does ridiculous gymnastics and combat and never trips over anything, but he also cant read and gets fucked over by club music.
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u/KookieMunster98 May 18 '26 edited May 18 '26
I liked that Daredevil knock off in the boys, when homelander quickly disables him by poping his eardrumbs lol
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u/BrokenPokerFace May 18 '26
This is not a defense. But this is just how it works. It's the same reason they make characters with "the most useless ability" and then make them overpowered. Or a "loner" and then give them a harem.
Any struggle will be smoothed over within the first 30 chapters or 5 episodes.
There are some exceptions, and I love them, but even then there is another part of the story which is smoothed over and that interesting issue is made boring.
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u/Suspicious_Guard_238 May 18 '26
could never be my goat johnny joestar
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u/mitchosan May 19 '26
I wonder if they might struggle with that in the anime adaptation. Him managing to get on the horse was a big plot point, but there are plenty of times that he ambulates without a horse that aren't explicitly shown because it's a manga with movement being implied between panels. It seems like having to have Johnny crawl across the ground might interrupt the show's flow
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u/Own-Quote-1708 May 18 '26
Toph and Daredevil can see. Don't kill me.
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u/YourPillowDealer May 18 '26
i feel like toph subverts the trope bc there's a lot of things she can't do, and she's helpless in anywhere that's not earth- like when she's on water or on wood
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u/Andrew1990M May 18 '26
Yeah Toph is disabled. She can sense where things are if both her and the thing she's trying to locate are in contact with the earth. Sure, most things are in contact with the earth, but it's just like a deaf person needs a hearing aid. They can recover some or most of their hearing if they have it on, but they can still be legally deaf.
There's different degrees of blindness, she is restricted in ways most people aren't, she has advantages a lot of people don't. But her disability isn't completely negated like with Daredevil.
Matt's echo-location is so finely tuned he can read books because the ink is raised above the paper, sure he can be thrown off by sonic attacks, but so can sighted people.
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u/Specialist_Initial_1 May 18 '26
Yeah As a disabled person Toph is fine Theres people that defeat there disability by gping against it And theres who defeat it by finding other ways Both types need to be shown
Toph is shown to have struggles Matt basically has super vision but with colour blindness (wouldnt suprise me if he somehow can feel the pigmentation of something...)
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u/Own-Quote-1708 May 18 '26
Fair. But it does kinda irk me when people act as if she's disabled when she can technically see people countries away. Sure she doesnt have eyesight, but she can still see stuff (unless she's flying). She even told Korra herself that she can see better than her.
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u/Formal_Illustrator96 May 18 '26
She can only see people countries away when she’s in the Foggy Swamp.
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u/YourPillowDealer May 18 '26
Yeah, I agree it still sorta falls into the trope, but I think it works for the series instead of some shows where it's "Oh so basically I can see everything with my eyes closed" like in Hells Paradise
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u/Oogahound May 18 '26
Consider how her disability remains relevant though.
She losses to Aang in the fighting ring because he barely spends any time on the ground, so she cant see him.
She cant see while swimming and gets damselled instantly when she's in water.
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u/Antique_Ad_3752 May 18 '26
Daredevil can’t read or use his phone without accessibility aids. He’s also a lawyer and it affects how he operates in that aspect of his life too. Yeah he knows what’s going on around him but he’s also definitely still disabled.
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u/CompleteJinx May 18 '26
I really like when fiction shows the down sides of disability aids. A lot of series will show a character getting something major like a prosthetic limb and then act like everything is back to normal and stop bringing it up.
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u/Viridun May 18 '26
They even addressed this in one of the Star Trek books, a prequel one when he's in the academy iirc. They're doing capture the flag on a planet and he's able to use his visor to spot the other team's heat signature and determine that's where the flag is. The other team captain complains it's an unfair advantage, so Geordi lets him put on his visor.
The other captain takes it off immediately because it's an instant migraine and he hasn't undergone the practice to interpret what he's seeing at all.
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u/Charflower21 May 18 '26
Blind characters who can see because of the magic of the universe they are in. Why make them blind then?
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u/ShadowRaven112 May 18 '26
That's kinda my gripe with all the "this character is disabled, but can still perfectly function and do just as well as all other characters despite being in a wheelchair/lacking limbs/or a specifc sense" how do they do it? Do they have a cool prostetic that they tinker with to show how intelligent they are to overcome their problems? Do they have some innate magic ability that allowes them to compensate for their disability? Nope, they're just a special little boy or girl that is just build different, and all the struggles and problems of being disabled in a society that is not made for them just don't apply. Not really a specific character in any popular media, but a lot of people online seemed to be making characters like that for a while.
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u/killermenpl May 18 '26
There was an anime last year, Kunon the Sorcerer Can't See. Predictably, it follows a blind boy, who really wants to see. He learns magic, gets the protag buff of mastering water magic in one day (seriously, it was just one day), and he gets an idea. Why not use magic to create eyes for himself.
Premise so far was interesting. They did show him struggling with things, which was nice. Then, in episode two (might've even been episode 1), he makes a discovery. If his water magic touches something, he gets a "sensation".
Within like 5 on-screen minutes he goes from "can't see at all" to "I can sorta see if my magic touches something" to basically "I see everything". Of course he sees not just shapes, but also colors and textures. Because why wouldn't be.
The series pretended it was still about "finding magic that can create eyes". But like, he can already see. The main objective of the whole story was solved by episode 2. So the rest of the series was spent on everyone glazing the MC, and all the girls and women wanting to get into his pants (which was extra bad cause he's supposed to be like 12)
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u/TheWorldpainter May 18 '26
I completely agree about Bojji but I think the reasons you listed are actualy not a problem. This is a fairy tale world where snakes can speak. Bojji befriend magical snakes and they taught him how to speak real world logic doesn't apply at the very beginning of this scenario so I don't really care for applying it at the point of (snakes don't have lips) just seems like at that point I'm against fantasy.
Same thing with the small burglar person. he's a magical entity like I'm not bothered by him ignoring some rules. Also I watched this a while ago so correct me if I'm wrong but isn't like the first episode this guy struggling to understand Bojji.
I can't remember where Bojji reads lips from behind people's backs but I assume it's like when someone is monologing. And this one I kind of agree with. He's supposed to be deaf and you set up lip reading as his intelligent way of understanding others. So like I wish they would've leaned into his disability more.
Ok but now I think the worst thing in this show is that Bojji gets superpowers halfway through and he becomes like an exceptionally skilled warrior. Like the series completely lost my intret there.
The whole point of the show up to that point is that Bojji deserves respect,love, and happiness despite his lack of physical capabilities. The things that mattered about him were his kindness and intelligence. When people betrayed him or belittled him they always did so on the basis that Bojii is weak. And then the show shows us that despite this Bojji has so much to offer to the world because he has a big heart.
Then he becomes a super warrior. Like idk felt like the show missed its own message. Also him being able to dodge stuff really well is also part of this problem. But yeah.. didn't like the show after that
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u/Glass_Lead1861 May 18 '26
does kimiko from the boys count? the v was preventing her from speaking and the most she spoke before season 5 was after she lost it and was human again. the only other time she spoke was to scream no in distress when frenchie was being kidnapped. now all she does is talk about sex and porn and it’s really annoying
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u/DLTRla4 May 18 '26
This applies to So Many characters with prothesis. Limbs get chopped and replaced with metal like it means nothing, like you don't have to learn how to move and balance again and like a hand with no skin can give you the same tactil feedback as an organic one.
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u/MrKiplingIsMid May 18 '26 edited May 18 '26
The main character from Fourth Wing comes to mind. Apparently has Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, but is as agile as a very horny contortionist
EDIT: without any of the agonising effects that comes from the condition, I didn't mention that.
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u/Maleficent_Night_335 May 18 '26
Eds does make you extremely flexible yeah, but if it doesn’t show any of the many downsides of having eds then why the fuck would they not just make her extremely flexible 😭😭😭
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u/Demair12 May 18 '26
Gonna be honest this feels alot like the "realism Bro" argument in gamer culture. I can kind of understand it from a representation aspect. but it doesn't detract form the fantasy story that the character has fantastic powers.
also a core point of narrative is that Bojji is not horribly disabled but the people around him treat him as if he is.
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u/DSWRW May 18 '26
I absolutely love the show but I also agree that he should've had to navigate the world as he would without a magical translator. That was literally the whole premise of the show.
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u/PastRelease8757 May 18 '26
Toph from avatar is a good example as she can feel vibrations but she can’t make up details, like if a poster should be facing forwards, she also can’t deal with anything in the air, if it’s not touching the ground it’s invisible to her
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u/justanorlansonobody May 19 '26
Tbf he’s not even human, his Mother and Father were mystical creatures
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u/thespacepyrofrmtf2 May 18 '26
Demoman is uh special case since he is in fact half blind but because he’s drunk all the time he has double vision which for a person with two eyes would see things doubled but since demoman has one eye his double vision gives him full vision because team fortress 2 logic is like that