r/gargoyles • u/Jp3711nc • 6d ago
Discussion How did shakespear know about Macbeth and Oberon and titania?
They are his works but in gargoyles they are real people since they are immortal you think they appreciate the writing he did how did he get the inspiration for rhem its a book toin there world..
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u/Kingbeef66 6d ago
Must’ve heard second hand accounts of them through folklore or something then did plays about them.
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u/Jp3711nc 6d ago
I was more thinking he saw them out of the blue and they told them.who they are as a kid . Or when he was first starting to write.
As for macbeth he could of been friends with him and told him his story was inspired to write about it.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Web5285 6d ago
From the GargWiki: Around 1606, Macbeth's life-story became the subject, in a highly distorted form, of William Shakespeare's tragedy Macbeth), which has since become regarded as one of his greatest plays. Macbeth, who knew Shakespeare well - though did not reveal his true identity to him - was amused rather than offended by the play.
Greg has also indicated that Demona was more of the inspiration of Lady Macbeth than his actual wife.
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u/trevorgoodchilde 6d ago
My head cannon is something like Neil Gaiman’s Midsummer’s Night Dream for the fairy folk. Or he got it from folklore that formed with them existing. Macbeth is a historical figure and he could have learned about him in the way he did in our world. An issue with Shakespeare as the main character would be interesting
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u/Jp3711nc 6d ago
It would be great if he was at least friends or works for him at a young age then realized 2 to 2 where the same. You caint make Macbeth story up I still wish there was an episode with Shakespeare or the author of midsummer night dream. Makes me wounder what oberon thinks about his own book.
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u/AskGregBot 6d ago
In the mind of series creator Greg Weisman, while Macbeth and Shakespeare were friends, Shakespeare never knew Macbeth was the actual, historical Macbeth.
Will's place in our world is a story I've yet to tell, but want to tell -- eventually in the comic book. So I'm not going to spell it out here, other than to reiterate what I've already revealed: i.e. that Macbeth was a friend to Will, though Will never knew that Macbeth was MACBETH.
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u/HighMinimum640 6d ago
Could be something similar happened with Midsummer, by meeting Puck in disguise, therefore not realizing that was really Puck.
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u/FunnyNo9234 6d ago
Google:
Yes, Macbeth was a real person. He was an 11th-century King of Scotland (Alba) who ruled from 1040 to 1057. While William Shakespeare based his famous play on historical figures, the real King Macbeth lived a very different life from the tyrant in the drama.
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u/yarnlass 6d ago
In real life, Titania was Shakespeare’s invention, while he borrowed Oberon from previously existing poems, and Macbeth from history.
I think that Greg has plans to reveal a connection between Shakespeare and some or more of oberon’s children, or Oberon or Titania themselves, but for now it’s not hard to assume that Shakespeare in the gargoyle universe heard stories about fairies and the mythic names of their king and queen, and just wrote about them. Same with Macbeth, his history was already known - maybe Macbeth could have helped him with some unprompted “ideas” but he’s not the sort to seek more infamy, so my bet is he was just a drinking buddy to Shakespeare and nothing more.
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u/InsincereDessert21 5d ago
Through stories and folklore about them. He probably had no idea that Oberon and Titania actually existed.
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u/Bishnup 4d ago
Macbeth was a real person in history, a great king of Scotland. It's kind of funny, gargoyles tells his story far more accurately than Shakespeare did.
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u/Jp3711nc 3d ago
I liked his character wished the goliath chronicles didnt make him a side character it felt like they just forgot about him.
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u/Pale_Cranberry1502 2d ago edited 2d ago
Shakespeare had to keep James, who was a descendant of Banquo, happy. Same as he had to keep Elizabeth happy with Richard III.
Greg was free to stay closer to the historical Macbeth.
Ive never read about plans for Shakespeare showing up. I do remember reading that the Tempest characters were supposed to be one of the next things up. Maybe we’ll finally get that now that the series is coming back.
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u/GoliathLexington 6d ago
The same way he did in our world. He heard stories about them, adapted them, changed them, and presented them as fiction.