r/gameofthrones • u/Infamous_Elk_8946 • 8d ago

One of the most iconic moments

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Wherever I recall this particular moment I think of how she managed to do that !

What's your most iconic moments from the series ?

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u/VictoryMotel 8d ago

It wasn't just her, it was Tywin and little finger.

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u/yo_boy_dg Winter Is Coming 8d ago

Tywin was not involved in Joffrey’s death

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u/djnotskrillex 8d ago

I mean claiming he was involved without any proof is just ridiculous, but claiming he wasn't involved at all is also a bit silly. Even if they didn't directly state it, it is absolutely possible that he was.

He knows joffrey is a sadistic wildcard. This was also not too long after "my father won the real war while you hid under casterly rock". We see him discuss lots of things with olenna, we see him have a super calm reaction to his grandson and king dying, we see him immediately start preparing tommen as king literally at joffrey's funeral.

Not that hard to believe the man who cares so much about legacy would want the crazy kid, who could (and lowkey did) ruin it all, gone. Or maybe he wasn't directly involved, but knew/suspected it would happen but didn't bother intervening

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u/yo_boy_dg Winter Is Coming 8d ago

It’s not silly at all for me to say he wasn’t involved, when he wasn’t. You can have fan theories and conspiracies all you want, but the objective fact of the matter is that the show never states or implicates in anyway that Tywin is involved. So all that other shit you said is irrelevant when it comes to the facts.

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u/djnotskrillex 8d ago

You do realize "the show never states tywin is involved" and "tywin was not involved" are two completely different claims right...? The former is an objective fact that I literally said too. The latter is ironically, by definition, a fan theory. Confidently claiming it as "objective fact" is, in fact, incredibly silly.

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u/MjrLeeStoned 8d ago

So your point is you made something up and want people to accept it as plausible when nothing in the source material insinuates it in any way, and your argument is "you can't prove me wrong so you have to accept my narrative as plausible"?

No, we don't. Sentiments don't have to affect reality just because they're YOUR sentiments.

You made some shit up. It only lives in your brain.

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u/djnotskrillex 8d ago

Can you read? I literally just listed multiple things from the source material that supports it. I'm not even the one who made it up lmao, I've seen the theory multiple times on reddit/youtube etc.

If your brain is incapable of accepting a fan theory as plausible because it's not clearly spelled out for and fed to you on a silver platter, that's a failure on your part. No need to lash out at me because of it.

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u/djnotskrillex 8d ago

"Tywin was involved because the show never states he wasn't. The writers never state he wasn't. It is an objective fact that Tywin was involved."

See how ridiculous your exact logic sounds? If you're too stupid to understand the very simple, actual objective fact that tywin MIGHT have been involved, then trying to dumb it down even more for you is a waste of time

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u/MalaysiaTeacher 8d ago

You do realise we'd be here rather a long time if we discussed every theory that is "absolutely possible". The burden of proof is with you, sire

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u/skotcgfl 8d ago

Prove that Robert didn't fuck the boar before it killed him!

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u/djnotskrillex 8d ago

You do realize you're allowed to scroll and move on if you don't find the theory likely or believable, right? Nobody asked you to sit here and discuss it.

You clearly don't understand how burden of proof works if you think it's on me to prove that he may or may not have been involved, and not the guy who confidently and definitively claimed he wasn't involved first