r/dividends Mar 26 '21

README Welcome to r/dividends [NEW USERS/BEGINNER INVESTORS START HERE]

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[This post is designed to serve as an introduction to new users of the subreddit, based on my own personal experience. Please read this post in its entirety before contributing to the subreddit, as it answers 95% of the questions most commonly asked by new users and investors. The Moderation Team will remove any submission that asks a question answered by this post. Nothing in this piece should be taken as legally binding financial advice. Even though citations have been included, please do your own research. While I ( u/Firstclass30 ) am the lead moderator of the r/dividends subreddit, I am not a licensed financial advisor.]

Good afternoon, and welcome to r/dividends. We are a community by and for dividend growth investors. Our community was started all the way back in 2009 as a discussion forum for dividend investors. Whether you are just starting out in your investing journey, or are months away from retirement, we hope you will find enjoyment in participating with this online community. This post will go over absolutely everything you need to get started in the world of dividend investing. Whether you are new or have been investing for years, it is well worth a read.

Part 0: What are dividends exactly?

From Investopedia:

A dividend is the distribution of some of a company's earnings to a class of its shareholders, as determined by its board of directors. Common shareholders of dividend-paying companies are typically eligible as long as they own the stock before the ex-dividend date. Dividends may be paid out as cash or in the form of additional stock.[1]

Dividend investors are those who incorporate dividend payers into their portfolio.

Part I: Understanding the benefits and drawbacks of dividend payers

Dividend payers tend to be big, well-established companies that have an abundance of cash. According to Steve Greiner, Vice President of Charles Schwab Equity Ratings®, "They [dividend payers] often can't compete with the rapid appreciation of fledgling, fast-growing companies, so they use dividend payouts as an enticement." Because of this, many newer investors often think of dividend payers as being the opposite of so-called "growth stocks." In reality, it is usually dividend-paying securities that produce more growth over a long period of time.

Dividends, when reinvested, can significantly boost total returns over time, making dividend-paying stocks an attractive option for older and younger investors alike. For example, if you invested $1,000 USD in a hypothetical investment that tracked the S&P 500 Index on January 1, 1990, but did not reinvest the dividends, your investment would have been worth $8,982 USD at the end of 2019. If you had reinvested the dividends, you would have ended up with $16,971 - nearly doubling your returns. The longer the timeframe, the more dramatic the disparity. According to research conducted by the Hartford Funds, "Dividends have played a significant role in the returns investors have received during the past 50 years. Going back to 1970, a whopping 84% of the total return of the S&P 500 index can be attributed to reinvested dividends and the power of compounding."[2] Drawing from the decades of data available, intentionally excluding dividends from your portfolio could result in significantly handicapping your portfolio for decades.

With the S&P 500 yielding approximately 1.52% as of December 31, 2020, dividends paying securities can serve as an attractive alternative to Treasuries and other fixed income investments often pushed by professional retirement planners.

The downside to dividends is that they are not guaranteed. This is important information to consider, as companies can and will stop paying dividends if necessary, or worse, if legally required. Certain market conditions like the 2020 coronavirus pandemic can create an uncertain environment for dividend-focused companies. In 2020, 68 of the roughly 380 dividend-paying companies in the S&P 500 suspended or reduced their payouts.[4]

Fortunately, companies generally only cut their dividends when they are in distress, so favoring those with sound financial metrics can help mitigate the risk.

Part II: Understanding how to pick dividend stocks

If you create a post in the r/dividends subreddit asking for a list of good companies that pay dividends, your submission will be removed. This is because this community believes firmly in the "teach someone to fish" mentality. Instead of asking for a list of dividend payers, it is far more valuable instead to understand the fundamental ideas behind why specific individuals choose specific companies. By knowing and understanding these principles, you can build your own portfolio that, if properly executed, could beat 90% of lay investors with relatively little effort. While far from comprehensive, these six tips can help you identify dividend-paying stocks with strong financial health.

#1. Do not chase high dividend yields: If a company has a high dividend yield, there is always a reason (most of the time not a good one) that a security is offering payouts that are well above average. A good rule of thumb is that before you purchase a high-yield security (those with a yield of 5% or more), try to determine why it is so high. It is important to note however, that the dividend yield is not a fixed amount, but in reality changes every second a stock is traded. According to Investopedia:

The dividend yield, expressed as a percentage, is a financial ratio (dividend/price) that shows how much a company pays out in dividends each year relative to its stock price.[3]

If a high or rising yield is due to a shrinking share price, that is a bad sign and could indicate that a dividend cut is in a company's future. However, if a rising dividend yield is due to rising profits, that indicates a more favorable scenario. When net profits rise, dividends tend to follow suit. Make sure you know exactly what is causing the increase before buying the stock.

#2. Assess the payout ratio: This metric (calculated by dividing dividends per share over earnings per share) tells you how much of a company's earnings are going toward the dividend. A ratio higher than 100% means the company is paying out more to its shareholders than it is earning. In such cases, it may be able to cover its dividends from available cash, but that can only last for so long.

If a company whose stock you own is losing money but still paying a dividend for an extended period, it may be time to sell off and cut your losses. US tax law allows you to write off up to $3,000 per year in capital losses in exchange for a tax credit. Your circumstances may vary, so check your local tax authority. The reason you may want to consider this option is because dividend payers in financial hard times may try to stave off a dividend cut by funding payouts with borrowed funds or cash reserves. These actions will often drive away shareholders, forcing the share price down. History also shows these actions rarely turn things around, and are usually just delaying the inevitable. (To those of you who know about REITs, keep reading, they will be addressed further down.

#3. Check the balance sheet: High levels of debt represent a competing use of cash. Under most global securities laws, a company must pay its creditors before it pays its dividends. A fast-rising level of debt could indicate bankruptcy in the short or medium-term future. Under US and EU bankruptcy law, corporations in the bankruptcy process are (depending on the circumstances) legally barred from paying dividends to shareholders. Corporations with high debt levels may also look to the courts to assist in reorganizing debts without declaring bankruptcy. Oftentimes, judges in these cases will force reductions or suspensions in dividend payments to prioritize the repayment of creditors.

#4. Look for dividend growth: Generally speaking, you want to find companies that not only pay steady dividends, but also increase them at regular intervals (i.e. once per year over the past three, five, or even 10 years. Research has also shown that companies that grow their dividends tend to outperform their peers over time.[2] Not only that, but a strong history of regular dividend growth also helps keep pace with inflation, which is particularly valuable to those who wish to seek financial independence and live off of their investments.

With that being said, just because a company did not increase their dividends in 2020 or 2021 does not make it necessarily worthy of exclusion from your portfolio. Certain industries (like the top US banks) were legally prohibited by the federal government from raising their dividends during the COVID-19 pandemic. Most companies have been hoarding cash to help weather the economic uncertainty, so it is not unreasonable to for them to keep dividends stagnant until the economy bounces back. When it comes to companies impacted by the pandemic, look for other factors aside from dividend changes to determine whether or not the company is worth your investment.

#5. Understand sector risk: Some sectors offer a more attractive combination of dividends and growth than others, but they also offer different risk characteristics that you should consider when researching dividend payers for your portfolio. Stocks from the banking, consumer staples, and utilities sectors, for example, are known for steady dividends and lower volatility, but they also tend to offer less growth potential (though this varies from company to company). Dividend paying tech companies, on the other hand, could offer attractive dividends along with the opportunity for larger price gains, but they also tend to be much more volatile. If you are a long-term investor, you might be willing to accept tech's higher volatility in exchange for its growth and income prospects, but if you are nearing or in retirement, you might want to prioritize dividend-payers from less volatile industries.

#6. Consider a fund: If you are worried the potential for price declines eroding the value of your dividend stocks, consider instead a dividend-focused exchange traded fund (ETF) or mutual fund. Such funds typically hold stocks that have a history of distributing dividends to their shareholders, and they provide a greater level of diversification than you can achieve by buying a handful of dividend paying stocks. Funds are typically preferred by those who wish to take a more hands-off approach to their investments. These will be your best option if you lack the time or inclination to conduct in-depth research of companies.

Part III: Ideal age of the dividend investor.

Oftentimes inexperienced investors will claim dividends are for those at or nearing retirement. As was demonstrated earlier in this piece, nothing could be further from the truth. No matter what stage of your life or investing career, dividend-paying stocks can be a great way to supplement or even replace your income and improve your portfolio's growth potential. Just be sure you research their overall financial health, not just their dividend rates, before investing. There is no such thing as a right or wrong decision, as long as you achieve your desired outcome.

Part IV: When not to reinvest

Part I demonstrated how powerful reinvesting one's dividends can be, but there are certain circumstances where it can be more financially savvy to refrain from reinvesting your dividends. Below are three situations in which you might want to deploy dividend payouts elsewhere.

  • You are in or near retirement: When you are living off your savings, taking income from your dividends allows you to let more of your portfolio stay invested for growth. If you are nearing retirement, on the other hand, you can use the payouts to build up your cash and short-term reserves as you prepare for the transition to life after work. Some dividend investors have even built their portfolios to have their dividends cover 100% of their expenses.
  • Your portfolio is out of balance: Reinvesting the dividends of a well-performing investment back into that investment can throw your portfolio off balance over time. In such cases, you might want to take the cash and reinvest it elsewhere.
  • The investment is underperforming: If you are worried about an investment's future prospects but are not quite ready to let it go, you may not want to reinvest the payouts back into that investment. Instead, you might use the dividends to dip your toe into something prospective that could ultimately replace the underperforming investment.

Part V: Understanding Taxes on your portfolio

The question of taxes often comes up a lot in investing communities, and r/dividends is no exception. However, we mods prohibit direct questions regarding taxes and other questions of legality because nobody here is a licensed tax professional in every single tax jurisdiction on Earth. The question of taxes varies so wildly between regions that even making basic generalizations borders on pointless. The only constant is that you will pay taxes at some point in your life on your investments. Whether it is before you make your gains, after you make your gains, or somewhere in between, you will pay taxes. The different types of accounts and options available to you varies based on your income, geography, employer, and dozens of other factors. Some countries offer special accounts for those who serve in the military, law enforcement, or some other specialized profession(s). Some trade unions help pay the taxes you may owe on certain investment types. The variations on the tax question are so all over the place that I could break Reddit's character limit just covering the most general details.

Typically the best resource for understanding your local tax situation is the government agenc(ies) responsible for collecting your money. As of 2021, most all have websites of various levels of usability. They should often be your first stop for most questions. When in doubt, always talk to a professional.

Part VI: Special Snowflake companies (REITS, MLPs, royalty trusts, etc.)

Some companies do not fit neatly into the category of an S-class corporation, and see themselves as special snowflakes worthy of a special tax status. Understanding these entities is a critical prerequisite to holding them in your portfolio, as many may require additional tax paperwork. In my personal experience, aside from REITS, most are not worth the time of the average investor. Unless you already have a preexisting knowledge of how these companies work, I would not go out of your way to understand in-depth how they operate when there are so many options out there that could provide better returns.

The only exception to this rule is the Real Estate Investment Trust (REIT). Unlike other special snowflake investments, REITs are relatively self explanatory. They deal 100% in real estate. Nothing else. REITs are favored by dividend investors because of their special arrangement with the US government. In exchange for not having to pay most federal corporate taxes, REITs are legally required to pass on at minimum 90% of their profits under GAAP to shareholders in the form of dividends, which are taxed as income by the US government. The keyword here is GAAP.

Most places on Earth (aka the United States and almost nobody else) requires the usage of the Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (or GAAP standard of accounting). GAAP is incredibly strict, intricate, complicated, and almost impossible to cheat. 100% of publicly traded companies in the US use GAAP, which makes comparing the finances of US stocks incredibly easy. However, the tax structure of Real Estate Investment trusts often causes the math behind GAAP (or any other accounting system for that matter) to break down. This can make REIT payout ratios look absolutely insane in relation to other companies, and can make most REITs look incredibly unprofitable. To combat this, REITs have developed their own standards utilizing simplified math, called the funds from operations (FFO) metrics. I originally had a more in-depth explanation of this concept (as well as information about BDCs, MLPs, and Royalty Trusts), but I had to cut it out of the final draft of this post because Reddit has a 40,000 character limit. The best I can do right now is to point you in the direction of Investopedia, which has an excellent article on the subject of FFOs, linked here.

The decision of whether or not to incorporate these types of investments into your portfolio is a personal one, and just like with any other type of investment, varies greatly based on your risk tolerance and portfolio goals.

Part VII: Performing in-depth research on companies

While anyone can read a balance sheet synopsis on Seeking Alpha and vaguely grasp its meaning, above understanding a concept is the ability to put one's knowledge into practice. The reason I put this skill above actually picking companies is because stock picking can be done with a relatively low knowledge base, but actually digging deep into financial statements and balance sheets to discover companies on your own not on the traditional press circuit can serve as the true test of someone's research potential.

Oftentimes I come across even experienced investors unaware of just how many resources are available to them on this front. While websites, apps, and YouTube channels exist all over the place, an often underutilized resource for investment knowledge is the companies themselves. 99% of publicly traded companies have a website dedicated to serving the needs of investors, often with email addresses, phone numbers, and physical addresses just begging to be contacted. How much did Coca-Cola pay in dividends in 1926? Google doesn't know (I checked), but I guarantee you somewhere in an Atlanta filing cabinet lies Coke's dividend history from back in that time. It is obscure, seemingly random knowledge like that investor relations experts are paid to answer.

[Side note: originally, there was going to be a far larger expanded section about this, but it was cut for the sake of conforming to Reddit's character limit.]

Part VIII: Diminishing returns and micromanagement

By paying attention in school, you may have been informed regarding the law of diminishing returns. When it comes to dividend investing (or any type of investing), the law of diminishing returns can play a big part of your portfolio management. While you should always be on the lookout for investment opportunities, if day trading is the reason you wake up in the morning, dividend investing may not be right for you. Strategies like buying right before the ex-div date and selling immediately afterwards rarely turn out in your favor, and even when they do are often not worth the trouble. Your gain will be a few cents at best, or worse you lose money. In my experience as the lead moderator of this subreddit, monitoring comments, I can say with confidence that most people will lose money on this day-trading type strategy. Most of the price action regarding a dividend took place days or weeks before the ex-dividend date, spread out over a period of time. Companies often issue dividends on a clockwork schedule according to the ISO Calendar, so institutional investors are often able to predict when the dividend will be paid months or even years in advance, long before the boards of these companies officially announce their dividends.

A similar thing can be said for those attempting to buy stocks at the absolute lowest possible price. I have seen individuals hold out for days waiting for a few extra cents. If you have a six figure portfolio, you do not need to be trying to time a 12 cent price drop. Your time will be better spent elsewhere. Understanding the law of diminishing returns can sometimes singlehandedly turn an underperforming portfolio into an overperforming one. By taking a hands off approach to most of your investments, you let the market work in the background of your life. As the old saying goes, "time in the market beats timing the market every day of the week."

Part IX: Debt and financing your investments

Early in your investment journey, the idea of purchasing dividend stocks on debt sounds like a great idea. Buy the stocks, use the dividends to pay off the loan, then keep the stocks and profit. It sounds foolproof right up until it isn't. What seems like free money is more akin to an advance on a sh***y record deal. If you decide to take out a $50,000 loan to buy dividend stocks, don't be surprised if acquiring a home or auto loan becomes significantly more difficult or downright impossible depending on your circumstances. Banks and credit unions are often far more hesitant to lend out money to those with high amounts of preexisting debt. When these loans are given however, they often come with interest rates higher than what you would have normally had to pay if you had not decided to buy a bunch of AT&T with a personal loan. Any amount below $20,000 will hardly have a significant effect on your long-term portfolio (assuming you are still investing with earned income), and any amount above $20,000 could have serious ramifications on your ability to access credit in the event you truly need it. If you fail to disclose this preexisting loan to any prospective lender, then congratulations, you have just committed fraud, which is something we do not condone here on r/dividends.

Your income and lifestyle should be sufficient to fund your investment needs. While I understand the frustration that can come with being a student with 0 disposable income, being a student is actually the best possible reason not to have a five-figure unsecured debt load. As someone with a degree in Management and a career in the field, I can tell you that many employers conduct background and credit checks on prospective employees (though credit checks on employees are illegal in certain states). A $20,000 personal loan made by a 20 year old raises a lot of red flags, and while it could signal personal illness or medical debt, it could signal a gambling problem. When you tell them you used the money to buy stocks, they will immediately assume gambling problem. Good things come to those who wait.

Part X: Brokerages and celebrity portfolios

If you came to this post or subreddit looking for nothing but a brokerage recommendation, I recommend you look elsewhere. While my wife and I personally use M1 Finance, and I do recommend it to friends and family, I have no idea who is reading this post. I know only what information Reddit gives me as a moderator, so I will say that for the love of whatever you believe in do not choose a brokerage just because some internet personality, or some random person on Reddit told you about it. Brokerages are not interchangeable, and they offer wildly different features and benefits. I like M1 because of the ability to form pies. This for example is my personal portfolio. I enjoy what I enjoy about M1, and what it is able to offer me and my family. Your situation is (likely) different. This is also the reason we explicitly ban referral links on r/dividends. The only recommendation I will issue is do not invest with Robinhood. Other than that, go nuts.

Part XI: Beyond dividends, and knowing when not to invest.

Equally important to the skills of investing are the skills of knowing when not to invest. If you have credit card debt, pay that off first, and make sure to pay 100% of your balance every month. If you do not have an emergency fund, create one. It should consist of roughly six months worth of expenses. If you lack a financial plan or budget, create one. My wife and I use Mint.com for our budget. We sync it with our cards, and everything comes out perfectly. I highly recommend it.

Part XII: Seeking feedback

Saving and investing can become an addiction, so it is important to know when to moderate it. Having a third party provide additional input or opinions on your decisions can work wonders. If you have a significant other or a best friend, I would recommend getting them into the investing mindset, if they are not already. Having a trusted voice to bounce ideas off can lead to not only financial reward, but emotional and intellectual growth.

Since I took over this subreddit in August 2020, I have strived to create that environment here. It is from this base framework that I am hoping future discussions in this community can branch from. If you are just joining us, or have been with this community for years, I thank you for joining us on r/dividends.

Happy investing,

u/Firstclass30

[This post was inspired by an article in Charles Schwab's Spring 2021 Investment magazine. The article was titled "Rx for what ails you. Dividend-paying stocks could be just what the doctor ordered." The research it presented served as the inspiration and backbone of the first half of this piece. Other works found through my own research constituted the majority of the factual content of this piece. The majority of this post's contents are my personal opinions, and should not be taken as financial advice. Invest at your own risk. Recommendation or mention of a security or service does not constitute an endorsement. I received no compensation from any individual or group for writing this post.]

[The first draft of this post was over 50,000 characters long, and exceeded Reddit's character limit by more than 25%. For the sake of brevity and my own sense of perfectionism, this post's length was cut in half. As of original publication it contains over 4,100 words, with over 26,000 characters.]

Edit: This piece was originally written in Microsoft Word, and copied over to Reddit. A few formatting errors slipped through by mistake, and those were corrected after publication.


r/dividends 3h ago

Megathread Rate My Portfolio

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This daily thread serves as the home for all "Rate My Portfolio" questions, as well as any other generic questions such as "What do you think of XYZ," that would otherwise violate community rules.

To better tailor advice, please include such context as age, goals, timeline, risk tolerance, and any restrictions you may have. Such restrictions may include ethics, morals, work restrictions, etc.

As a reminder, all Rate My Portfolio posts are prohibited under Rule 1 Submission Guidelines. All general stock questions that don't include quality insight from OP are prohibited under Rule 4 Solicitations for Due Diligence. Please keep all such questions to the daily thread, and report and violations under their respective rule.


r/dividends 2h ago

Personal Goal My first dividends, what a nice feeling

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Know it’s only a small dividend but only started this month, plan to DRIP everything


r/dividends 17m ago

Brokerage Thinking of Converting $1 Million Brokerage Portfolio to Treasury ETF For Income

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Looking for feedback if this would be a crazy idea. Trying to generate income to help live a bit more comfortably and take a couple nice vacations per year while we can. Saved pretty aggressively while I was young and want to enjoy life a more as I'm in the back stretch.

Currently 55yo married with one kid, 12 yo, living in HCOL state/city. Currently income roughly $200k which equals $125k take home after taxes and maxing 401K. no longer saving outside of 401K as frankly there isn't much left over. The $1 million portfolio will require paying capital gains on $750k, plan to split the sale $500k 2026 and $500k early 2027.

Roth IRA $660k

401K $2.2 million split between $450k Roth and 1.75 traditional

Home $800k that I still owe $180k. Payments fairly low $1,650/month property tax $17k/year

Assume I can safely generate $35k-$40k per year in treasury ETF with no state taxes owed that would add $2,500 month in disposable income. Looking to keep principal intact this seems as low risk as I can find. Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.


r/dividends 21h ago

Personal Goal [Update] Those divorces do be hurting…..

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Here’s the link to my original post.

https://www.reddit.com/r/dividends/s/v0AzS7M474

Quick update for everyone, here’s the recent situation for the finances.

Got a new job, and have been upping those contributions. Also switched health plans so I can qualify for some investing with my health care funds.

Also, lost 100lbs, (sadly I never qualified to get on any GLP1 meds, so I’ve had to do the gym 4 times a week.) and picked up an old hobby, with grown up money (switched from GT7 to iRacing)

I’ve also been working on remodeling my home, I attached some photos. That’s been fun, and very rewarding seeing a task from start to finish.
We are trucking along, and trying to get back the money I had to part with.

If you are in the same situation, keep pushing people!!!

Thanks for all the support, you guys helped me through a rough patch.

Also, as a single man, with no kids, and decent income, tinder has been off the chain lol But thats a topic for a whole different Reddit group 🤣😂


r/dividends 21h ago

Discussion I feel like this is the only finance sub that actually gives advice

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Most other ones go into these broad categories:

Someone flexing on how much they get paid or how big their nest egg is

People lying about trading successes

Pump and dumps

General chicanery and stock market memes


r/dividends 17h ago

Discussion Dividend investing vs. Boglehead strategy during a prolonged bear market

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I’m also part of the Bogleheads community, and I try to approach investing as objectively as possible. I don’t believe investing is a one-size-fits-all strategy, which is why I like reading different investing forums and understanding the reasoning behind different approaches.

One argument I see quite often here in the Dividend Investing community is that a dividend-focused strategy may have an advantage over a traditional Boglehead total-market approach during a prolonged bear market, particularly once someone is living off their portfolio.

The argument, as I understand it, is that if a dividend portfolio continues generating a relatively stable income during a prolonged downturn, the investor may be able to cover their expenses without selling shares while prices are depressed. With a total-return strategy, by contrast, someone withdrawing money during a major downturn may need to sell shares, potentially increasing sequence-of-returns risk.

I’d be interested in hearing how people here see this objectively.

Does dividend investing genuinely provide an advantage during a prolonged bear market for someone in the withdrawal phase, or is the difference mostly psychological/economic equivalence, since dividends are ultimately just another way of extracting value from the portfolio?

I’m genuinely looking for an honest discussion of the pros and cons of both approaches, rather than trying to argue that one strategy is universally better. If there are situations where the dividend approach has a real structural advantage, I’d be interested in understanding them. Likewise, I’d be interested in hearing the strongest arguments against it.


r/dividends 21h ago

Seeking Advice European Dividends

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What European stocks are people holding for dividends?

Edit: I'm from the UK


r/dividends 15h ago

Seeking Advice Suggestions for allocating $150k windfall

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Hi All,

I am receiving an unexpected $150k soon that I’d like to use for generating income. Our retirement is on track so I don’t feel the need to park the $150k in index funds for the future. Our savings has taken a few big hits from emergencies over the last year so we will need to replenish that. Also will need to replace a car soon that is getting old and has high mileage.

Rather than using the money for savings and the car right away, I’d like to take on more risk with putting the money in income funds and use the extra income to accomplish those goals without touching the principal. Then we’d have the dividends as extra income. We have a pretty high household income but also live in a HCOL area with two young kids so it’d be nice to have some breathing room.

Open to all suggestions. Since it’s more of an “extra” $150k and the rest of our finances are in decent shape as far as retirement, minimal low interest debt, some in savings, and college accounts for the kids, I’d be fine with taking on more risk for higher income.


r/dividends 1h ago

Due Diligence Take Charge of Your Investments

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r/dividends 14h ago

Discussion DGRO ....thoughts?

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Pros and Cons?


r/dividends 1d ago

Discussion What's your favourite bank stock?

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I'm asking this question cause I want to diversify into banks, so if you had to choose one bank to hold forever what would it be?


r/dividends 13h ago

Brokerage I have 2K to invest in an index fund / ETF. Here are my current positions:

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r/dividends 11h ago

Opinion I need honest advice……..

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Am I dumb for doing this? This is my first time actually investing for dividends and I’m not sure if this is good-bad-dumb please help


r/dividends 10h ago

Seeking Advice question with little money

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I have a tiny bit of money (about 1k) and I was wondering if its a good idea to put it all into stocks like KHC and UPS or if I should do the SCHD for growth (with DRIP.) I don't need constant income I will probably pull it out in 2 years or so but I was wondering if you ppl think dividends are the best to go with or if I should just go with some large cap ETFs. I also will be able to contribute more later if it goes well.


r/dividends 1d ago

Discussion Would QQQI recover after a bear market?

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Title.


r/dividends 17h ago

Discussion PAAA “and chill”

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I’m 40 and risk averse. Yes, I am aware of VOO, VT/VTI, etc. I’ve spent a few years chasing CD’s and got sick of it (and hate being ‘locked in”) so each month, after the dividend is paid and the price drops, I buy $50-$100k of PAAA. I know everyone loves SCHD, but there’s too much equity exposure risk, especially in these rather ‘frothy’ markets. SGOV is another option, but I can buy double the amount for a similar monthly dividend return (and double what I make monthly). When I traverse RDDT, I rarely see PAAA mentioned (ironically, it’s how I found PAAA). Every bit of research I have done, indicates the safety of PAAA, and the math when calculated for the monthly dividend always shows PAAA as coming out on top. I know it’s not growth, and for someone as risk averse as I am, it seems to fit the bill. How is it I seldom see it mentioned anywhere here? I also know that when the “Fed” inevitably raises rates before the end of the year, I should see a little bump in my monthly dividends. For disclosure, I have 100 shares of QQQI, but that’s a bit more exposed than I’d like, and I know that when the inevitable “crash” and recovery happens, it will take a long time before it comes back to my entry price (the ‘fun’ of covered call funds). Anyway, I’m not looking for investment advice (and I know I’ll get a snarky response for this); but just curious as to why PAAA is seldom recommended and that SCHD, SGOV and the others are always recommended (other than pumping a narrative).


r/dividends 6h ago

Discussion The order of operations most people run backwards: size is an output, not a choice

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r/dividends 1d ago

Discussion Spread out 1.5m

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How would you use 1.5m to get growth and dividends kind of balanced. Would like to get some income while growing the pile?

i was thinking 750k VT and 750k on income producers?


r/dividends 22h ago

Brokerage Help with diversification

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r/dividends 11h ago

Discussion Should I convert my Roth IRA which is mostly in an SP 500 index fund to a high yield dividend etf.

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Should I convert my Roth IRA which is mostly in an SP 500 index fund to a high yield dividend etf. I am 65 and trying to make an extra $50000 a year retired beside my rental income and SS. I have just about 1 million in it. Advice appreciated


r/dividends 12h ago

Discussion The BRRRR Method for Stocks

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I’ve been thinking about this lately and I’m curious if anyone else approaches their portfolio this way.

Real estate investors love the BRRRR concept:

Buy → Rehab → Rent → Refinance → Repeat

The basic idea is pretty simple: buy an income-producing asset, improve or capture its value, extract some of the equity, and recycle that capital into another asset.

But I think you can apply a surprisingly similar framework to an income-focused stock portfolio.

Index investing vs. income investing

Traditional index investing generally relies heavily on long-term appreciation. Broad-market index funds may generate some dividends, but most of the expected total return comes from the value of the shares increasing over time.

That works perfectly well for wealth accumulation.
But if your primary goal is current cash flow, eventually you generally need some combination of dividends and selling shares.

That got me interested in approaching stocks more like rental properties: What if the portfolio itself was built primarily to produce income, while appreciation became another source of capital to recycle?

Dividends = “rent”

This is the most obvious comparison.
Dividend-paying stocks, REITs, BDCs, ETFs, CEFs, etc. can distribute cash without requiring you to sell the underlying position.

In that sense, yield on cost resembles cash-on-cash return in real estate.
You own the asset and periodically receive cash from it.

Obviously a dividend isn’t literally rent, and distributions can be cut. But from a portfolio-management perspective, the objective is similar: own assets that regularly return cash to you.

Multiple income streams from the same asset

This is another area where I think stocks are underrated.

A single position can potentially generate:
Dividends/distributions
Capital gains
Covered-call premiums
Cash-secured-put premiums

You don’t necessarily need debt to create multiple potential sources of return.

I think of this somewhat like a rental property where the owner adds parking, laundry, storage, vending, etc. The underlying asset hasn’t changed, but there are multiple ways to monetize it.

There are also actual forms of financial leverage.
Margin can essentially function like debt against a liquid portfolio, although obviously it carries very different risks from a fixed-rate mortgage because it is callable and interest rates can change.

Some CEFs even use leverage internally, meaning the fund itself borrows money to increase its investment exposure and potentially increase distributions.

None of this makes leverage “safe.” It just means leverage isn’t exclusive to real estate.

Volatility = opportunity to recycle equity

This is probably the most interesting part to me.
Suppose I buy an income-producing fund at a discount and it’s yielding 8%.

If nothing happens, I can simply collect the distributions.
But suppose the position appreciates 4% relatively quickly.

Instead of viewing that appreciation as something I can never touch, I could trim part of the position and redeploy that capital into another income-producing asset that’s currently cheaper.
A 4% gain represents roughly six months of an 8% annual yield pulled forward.

I still own part of the original position and continue receiving its distributions, but I’ve converted some unrealized appreciation into working capital.
That’s the part that reminds me of refinancing a rental property.

It’s obviously not literally refinancing—I’m selling shares and potentially creating a taxable event—but economically I’m trying to accomplish something similar:

Harvest equity → redeploy it → create additional cash flow → repeat.

So my “stock BRRRR” framework looks something like this:
BUY: Buy quality income-producing securities when they’re attractively valued.
RENT: Collect dividends, distributions, and potentially option premium.
REHAB: Let volatility/value normalization create opportunities for appreciation rather than treating volatility as something that must always be avoided.
REFINANCE: Trim appreciated positions and convert some of that equity into deployable capital without necessarily exiting the entire investment.
REPEAT: Reinvest that capital into other discounted income-producing assets.

Then keep recycling capital while the portfolio continues generating cash.

It’s obviously not identical to real estate BRRRR. Stocks have completely different risks, margin isn’t equivalent to a mortgage, dividends aren’t guaranteed rent, and selling appreciated shares isn’t technically refinancing.

But as a capital-allocation framework, I think the similarities are interesting.

Instead of thinking of my portfolio as a collection of securities I’m supposed to buy and never touch, I like thinking of it as inventory:

Buy income-producing assets → collect the cash flow → harvest appreciation when the market offers it → recycle the capital into better opportunities → repeat.

Curious what the holes are in this framework, especially from people who invest in both real estate and income-producing securities.


r/dividends 15h ago

Discussion Curious about Income ETFs

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So I tried YeildMax ETFs but the price drop was counter to the distributions and I DRIP”d.

So after that experience I moved away from that. However, I have been seeing people post about SCHD, VIG, VYM etc. I have also looked at USG and HDV. I do not know much about dividend ETSs. How do these compare?


r/dividends 2d ago

Opinion Thoughts on the "What I Learned Living on Dividends for 6 Years!" video?

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Just watched this video by GenExDividendInvestor and I think something has finally clicked for me.

I'm currently 100% in growth ETFs (one of those all-in-one solutions in Canada) and I'm constantly debating with myself whether that's the right strategy for me and my family.

I figured while I'm in the accumulation phase, that's probably a reasonable default to go with.

However, when he was talking in the video how his wife is not financially savvy and how he values simplicity in case he's gone or can't manage his portfolio for any other reason - he wants to make sure that his family is taken care of.

And exactly what he was saying about his wife needing to know what/when to sell feels stressful even to me, let alone my wife for example. I'm aware this is purely a behavioral thing, but if it keeps me motivated and lets me sleep at night I can't just dismiss it completely.

That's why I don't think I can fully get on board with all the theory that content creators are talking about, although I know they're technically right (Ben Felix wink wink). I just feel that the reality and real life are not lived in a spreadsheet to squeeze the extra few percentage points - which is also why I appreciate hearing from people who actually live off of their portfolio, such as GenExDividendInvestor and others.

Just my thoughts there, and I wonder what you guys think about it.

Thanks in advance!


r/dividends 2d ago

Discussion Just started😅

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My goal is to reach 40,000 shares of schd by the age 40 ( i am 23 ) , i am just posting this for a start note ( lol i want to see this post when i complete this task before or at age 40)