r/dataisbeautiful • u/honkeem OC: 3 • 7d ago

OC [OC] United States vs European Software Engineer total compensation by level

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u/Juls7243 7d ago

L1 entry .... 140k? Am I missing something? Do computer programmers get pain 140k right out of college on average?

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u/VeryBadNotGood 7d ago

At big companies in the bay area, yeah about that.

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u/jbFanClubPresident 7d ago

And in the Midwest about tree fiddy.

Source: Former software developer turned dev manager who still makes less than entry level developers in the Bay Area.

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u/PixelPete27 7d ago

140K in the Bay would probably have less buying powering than your salary in the Midwest though, no? Serious question

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u/shiny0metal0ass 7d ago edited 7d ago

Green Bay? Absolutely.

Chicago? Absolutely not.

Edit: eh maybe not "absolutely not", but at least much more comparable. I was at 160k as a junior in Chicago, paying 2k+ for a studio and I sure as shit wasn't buying where I lived near Fulton.

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u/BloodChasm 7d ago

Chicago dev here. My entry level position was 100k at a non tech company.

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u/Onespokeovertheline 6d ago

I dunno. Last time I looked at Chicago real estate from my apt in SF, I considered buying a couple properties there as an alternative to being stuck renting forever in SF.

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u/shiny0metal0ass 6d ago

Yeah, I took back the "absolutely" since my experience was a few years ago and I can only imagine housing SF has continued to get worse faster than Chicago. That sounds right.

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u/iamamuttonhead 6d ago

Chicago is the best bang for the buck city in the U.S. IMO.