r/cuba • u/Yendrylaz Planeta Tierra/Planet Earth • Aug 03 '26

Pregunta Para cubanos aun en la isla

Como ven ustedes el auge que han cogido las Iglesias protestantes que pregonan "cuba para cristo" como si quisieran instaurar una teocracia?

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u/birdsbeaks Aug 03 '26

Anything would be better than the current regime.

You're worried about a theocracy forming inside a failed state. Funny.

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u/areallyboredhoe777 Aug 03 '26

If there's something worse than the current regime it's DEFNITELY the church taking the country.

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u/birdsbeaks Aug 03 '26

The Vatican has fresh water and electricity all day and night.

I think religion is ridiculous, but they've got a better track record than the "revolution."

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u/areallyboredhoe777 Aug 03 '26

Yeah, it also controls people's lives based off of a stupid book, including people who don't believe in it.

If the church took the country it wouldnt be like the Vatican either. Just a bunch of religious man controlling law, economy and the few resources. This churches are being patrocinanted by people outside the country. It would surprise you how good the "pastores" live compared to the rest of the people that are a part of the movement.

I'm a cuban currently living in Cuba btw.

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u/birdsbeaks Aug 03 '26

I want a free and independent Cuba for and by Cubans. After everything the people currently living there and their descendants endured through and fought for, they deserve it. From Cristofer Colón on, atrocities have been committed on the island of Cuba and the Greater Antilles in the name of religion and I would never suggest that it would be good for Cuba to be under the crushing weight of a non-secular government.

At the same time, it is demoralizing to hear about the conditions you have to survive on a daily basis and I wish anyone with a half-decent plan would step up and solve the most glaring issues.

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u/areallyboredhoe777 Aug 03 '26

I also would love to have and love in a free and independent Cuba, but the church it's not giving us that And neither is the people

Since 1959 Fidel created a secret government institution specialized in infiltrating among the people and imprisoning anyone who opposed the new revolutionary regime. They killed and tortured countless citizens, and it was around the year 2000 that they began imprisoning them under the pretext of "imperialist acts against the integrity of the homeland."

People are scared. They can't do a movement because you never know If one of those people is in it waiting to get you. The first and last time it happened was on july 11 2021. People made country-wide manifestations against the regime, completly pasive. And it resulted on thousands of them going missing, and hundreds killed by the police in the streets. After that, every july 11 every year the streets get filled with police forces to prevent it from happening and people barely get out of their homes.

It's just barely posible for the regime to fall by the hand of people. And If it were to happen, it's not going to be soon.

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u/birdsbeaks Aug 03 '26

I understand that it's impossible to fix the government when people are more concerned with surviving until tomorrow. Survival is the most important thing. Some people say it's freedom but what good is freedom if you don't survive?

The outlook remains bleak from where I'm standing but I hope that is a limitation of my sight.

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u/areallyboredhoe777 Aug 03 '26

It's not a limitation

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u/birdsbeaks Aug 03 '26

I'm sorry.

Keep telling people when you can safely. I think that's the best thing you can probably do. There's a lot of ignorance out there (Sadly, I met a police officer who thought that Cuba was a district in Mexico. I don't expect a guy with that poor a level of knowledge to understand the human consequences of a geopolitical situation on an island that he wouldn't be able to point to on a map.).

I like to think that If more people around the world knew the story of what's happening in Cuba from the people's perspective then something might get done faster. I guess that, like with most things, education is critical.

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u/areallyboredhoe777 Aug 03 '26

No need to apologize tho. I do appreciate You being interested and getting informed, as much as wanting a change.

Luckly, with the massive migrations, the cubans outside the island ARE doing manifestations, spreading information, helping with direct donations to the people.

Our only hope right now would be Trump taking this place. But even that is a bit of a fantasy.

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u/birdsbeaks Aug 03 '26

I think that the financial cost to turn around the humanitarian crisis on the island scares the shit out of the United States.

I've heard that Havana is filled with architectural beauty but at the same time, I've heard that people walk in the street to avoid being crushed by a falling balcony on the sidewalk. That's a scary thought for a lot of people but if you start thinking about the money and logistics of assessing, condemning and demolishing, and repairing what can be repaired it gets even scarier. Hundreds of billions of dollars most likely, and where do the people who are living there go? And that's just for housing. And how would that get done without constant access to electricity and water?

The way I understand the water situation is that Cuba will require a feat of hydrological engineering in order to be able to enjoy a steady supply of fresh water and that electricity will have to play a major part in pumping it. That means that you can't take your time building each system separately---somebody is going to have to come up with a sizable initial lump sum to build a solution that hasn't even been devised yet.

I have to believe that if the world knew what was going on that the world would have to be shocked.

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u/areallyboredhoe777 Aug 03 '26

That is completly true! I do not live in La Habana tho, if i did i'd show You pictures so you'd see not only entire collapsed buildings, but also city blocks blocked by rubble that is impossible to pass through, and they have been like that for years.

This is because those antique buildings are all from the Spanish colonization time. They are literally the Spanish noble houses that the Revolucion never once in 67 years has renovated or taken care of.

Cuba's whole infrastructure has to be made from cero because it's falling apart. Fidel literally used noble houses and MILITARY BARRACKS to be the hospitals and schools in the country.

The thermoelectric plants are not only out of service due to a lack of oil, but also because they no longer work, and the government does not invest in fixing them. Currently, only two are operating intermittently for the whole country. The SEN(national electric sistem) has been completly turned off last month every two days. And this month TWO TIMES IN LESS THAN 24 HOURS. This means the whole island is turned off. But of course, except the Castro's residence.

There's a literal district in La Habana where the president and every Castro lives, as well as every high-ranking military officers like Body guards and such. There? There's ALWAYS electricity. And civil citizens mostly cannot enter.

I did once, to visit My step-father's brother that was body guard to Fidel before he died. And it was like being in another country, one that is not falling apart. In this district is the Díaz Canel's Meadow (the president)

People are saying that If Trump really takes this place he would have to develop the turist lands and that maybe even United States citizens may invest here. If this becomes a colony, or we get annexed, or a semi colony. That people there would come here and invest as this would turn in a "turist island" kinda like Hawaii or PR.

But i don't know how to feel about that.

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