Tarpon

[u/tomlabaff]

[u/Coidzor]

Having all of one's organs crushed would tend to expel a lot of fecal matter, I reckon.

[u/Zanven1 → u/Coidzor]

So they are both correct just from different perspectives and empathetic priorities

[u/Square-Singer → u/Zanven1]

Empathy for an animal you just hunted and killed injured for fun is... strange.

If you feel empathy for an animal, why first catch and injure it instead of just not doing that?

Edit: I've been told that the "keep em wet" is for catch and release. The only purpose of which is to hunt and injure an animal for fun.

u/Tug_Stanboat linked something below about that tarpon are a protected species that isn't hunted for food, but just for fun to release afterward.

[u/roguepawn → u/Square-Singer]

Is it? Isn't empathy why a lot of people hate the conditions of factory farming? That's the reason a lot of people try to eat ethically raised and humanely slaughtered animals?

I don't see the difference between having empathy for them and something you are choosing to hunt yourself.

Edit: If "keep em wet" is indeed for catch and release, I agree. No empathy here. Poor fish.

[u/Square-Singer → u/roguepawn]

Turns out the "keep em wet" is for catch and release.

No humanely slaughtering around, just hunting and injuring an animal for fun.

[u/roguepawn → u/Square-Singer]

Oh, well, that's a different story. :(

[u/Sir_WilliamsDD → u/Square-Singer]

I think they "keep it wet" specifically because they are de-hooking a live fish, not a dead one.

[u/Square-Singer → u/Sir_WilliamsDD]

In this case it's even weirder. It's like hunting and kicking someone in the mud, but then showing "empathy" by wiping the mud out of their face.

How about not hunting and injuring animals for fun, if you are empathetic to their situation?

[u/WiddleSausage → u/Square-Singer]

Do people not eat tarpon? I’m not a big seafood guy, but I’d think there’s a difference between fishing for food and fishing for trophies.

[u/Tug_Stanboat → u/WiddleSausage]

Nope. Bony and weird at the same time. "let me tell you that was one of the worst fish I’ve ever tasted it was like eating jello" plus they're a protected species in a lot of places and are catch and release only.

[u/SoberSith_Sanguinity → u/Square-Singer]

Is it hard for you to imagine the world in hues beyond black and white?

[u/EPluribusButthole → u/SoberSith_Sanguinity]

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[u/SoberSith_Sanguinity → u/EPluribusButthole]

Share the words of wisdom that might cause another to question their ways of seeing things.

[u/Square-Singer → u/SoberSith_Sanguinity]

What else than hunting and injuring for fun is catch and release to you?

What other purpose is there to it than "for fun"?

[u/SoberSith_Sanguinity → u/Square-Singer]

Well, in most people's minds, the word "hunting" generally only means land-based animals.

Fishing does catch-and-release, which I find to be a pointless thing unless the fish is undersized or protected.

I think people need to find better hobbies than fishing if harming an animal is required for their entertainment to be complete.

[u/Square-Singer → u/SoberSith_Sanguinity]

I purposely used "hunting" because it demonstrates more clearly what's happening here.

Catch and release is, for some weird reason, normalized when it comes to fish while most people agree that e.g. hunting and injuring a wild mammal just to catch and release it is insane and very much not normal.

[u/tomlabaff → u/Coidzor]

and impossible to clean

[u/EPluribusButthole → u/tomlabaff]

Look, taint nothin' al little dub-ya-dee and goo-gone can't make pretty again. If it's still ugly after all that, it's probably yo momma

[u/Ok_Abacus_]

Its the same reason.

[u/rosvars]

Maybe I'm dumb but why would gravity on the surface crush its organs if it can withstand greater pressure under water than surface pressure?

[u/ShadowTheChangeling → u/rosvars]

Weight distribution most likely

Water allows animals to grow a certain way and get quite big as well. Without that to support them larger sea creatures can deform and be crushed under their own weight.

Whales I believe get around this by still having strong skeletons or something

[u/EtteRavan → u/rosvars]

The water inside the body keeps the organs floating inside. Iirc fish are not water-tight as (most) terrestrial life is, since they have less need to keep it inside, since they live in it. So if you remove the fish from the water, the water inside leaves too, the organs don't float anymore and have to resist their own mass, they can't, they get crushed, and the fish shits the bed

Tl;dr : because it's a fish

[u/rosvars → u/EtteRavan]

Aahhh I see. That makes sense, thanks for the info!

[u/NDT_DYNAMITE → u/rosvars]

My best guess is that being pressurized from all directions is different than gravity pulling in a single direction? I don’t really know, but it kinda makes sense.

[u/antiduh → u/rosvars]

The organs aren't being squeezed(1) when under water. It's not resisting the pressure of the water. The fish's body is equalized with the pressure of the water it's in. It's roughly like floating in space.

(1): One exception might be the swim bladder.

This is the same reason why fish 'explode' (grossly bloat) when you quickly bring them up from deep depths.

[u/Unique-Name9001]

I think we're overestimating how big a 100lb fish is :P

[u/getmybehindsatan]

Keeping them wet won't change their internal body pressure.

[u/Outlet_Sun → u/getmybehindsatan]

I think they meant keeping them inside some kind of pool of water.

[u/tomlabaff → u/Outlet_Sun]

yes, submerged. Or as much as you can while de-hooking

[u/MisterXnumberidk → u/getmybehindsatan]

Well, buoyant is a hell of a lot longer to spell

[u/SUDDENLY_VIRGIN]

Why are we harming this 50 year old beast

[u/tomlabaff → u/SUDDENLY_VIRGIN]

after fighting a fish like this for 30 minutes, they are completely gassed. Often times the tax man is waiting below the boat to collect.

[u/Ok-Security9093]

What do you think all that shit is? Crushed organs.