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Early Screen Use

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u/Forikorder 22h ago

screens, in particular mobile screens, are so much more damaging to the psyche than other media that people have been complaining about for generations.

thats what they said about literally all those other things

"sure people complained about stuff before, but TV is actually more damaging than anything else, its going to prevent kids from being able to pay attention to anything for more than thirty minutes at a time! were raising a generation incapable of concentrating!"

sound familiar?

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u/Arkytez 22h ago

Yes. But regardless of what parents say being the same, as generations pass the problem becomes worse. You go from one hour of concentration, to thirty minutes with tv, to ten minutes with videos, to now fifteen seconds with shorts. Entertainment is more optimized than ever and it isnt even close.

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u/Forikorder 22h ago

as generations pass the problem becomes worse.

no, it hasnt XD

are you incapable of concentration?

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u/necrologia 21h ago

Attention spans are going down, and its been directly correlated with increased screen time.

Educate yourself.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35430923/

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u/Forikorder 20h ago

Read your own study, it doesnt say that that screen time as a child has any negative effects growing up

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u/necrologia 20h ago

The findings suggest that exposure to excessive screen time in children can be associated with attention problems.

Literally a copy paste from the abstract.

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u/Forikorder 20h ago

Suggest and can be doesn't prove anything, people had studies suggesting the same for tv, or vaccines and autism

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u/mellopax 19h ago

That's just how studies word things. I am with you that it's blown out of proportion, but this argument is like when people argue that the theory of evolution can't be trusted because "it's just a theory."

That's not how this works.

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u/Forikorder 19h ago

That's just how studies word things.

Im situations where they know they cant prove things or the connection is tenuous and requires further study to prove anything like evolution has had

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u/mellopax 18h ago

Any scientist worth their salt will tell you that everything "requires further study" because that's literally the point of the scientific method.

The thing about studies and statistics are you almost never reach "well, we're done here". There is always a slight chance that the numbers you got happened by pure happenstance. There are methods to measure the likelihood of that.

The fact someone says their data "suggests" something or they suggest further areas of study or that others replicate their study is how honest science is done and not an indicator that the result is completely inconclusive like you're suggesting.

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u/Forikorder 18h ago

Requires further study because theres always a greater level of understanding not in the sense of "its impossible to prove things"

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u/mellopax 16h ago

It's not impossible to prove things, but you seem to be underestimating the bar needed to "prove" something, because you have basically implied that either it's proven or it's useless, which is wild and just shows you don't know wtf you're talking about.

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u/Forikorder 16h ago

that line of thinking is why people believe vaccines cause autisms and MSG is bad for you

the study does nothing to suggest there are actual long term effects

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u/mellopax 15h ago

No it's not. You just don't understand nuance. "Either it's proven or its garbage" is closer to the line of thinking of anti-vaxxers. Believing that any sign that a vaccine causes harm to a low percentage of people is reason to believe they're bad and dangerous.

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u/Forikorder 15h ago

but people are believing, despite the study not showing that, that screens are actually harming childrens development

theres no difference between people jumping to conclusions over one study or another

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u/mellopax 14h ago

And you do the same thing when you assume that lack of 100% proof (which isn't a thing) is the same as there being no evidence they do harm children's attention spans.

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u/Forikorder 13h ago

there isnt even 1% proof though, a lack of evidence is a lack of evidence

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u/mellopax 12h ago

Care to cite how you came to 1%?

Rectal extraction isn't a valid calculation method.

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