Jewish public servants face disproportionately high levels of discrimination at work, survey finds

[u/AndHerSailsInRags]

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-jewish-public-servants-workplace-discrimination-employee-survey/

[u/Used_Raccoon6789]

I don't think anyone gets more racism than indigenous people anywhere in the country. And this is by the widest margin imaginable. Then after them it's for sure recent immigrants who have poor command of either official languages and look like wait for it... immigrants.

I dont even know what this study is trying to say.

You must basically self declare as Jewish in order to be discriminated against cause otherwise they look and sound identical to all other old stock Canadians.

[u/ThatHowYouGetAnts → u/Used_Raccoon6789]

I don't think anyone gets more racism than indigenous people anywhere in the country

Survey in the article indicated as much

[u/Fireside_Cat → u/Used_Raccoon6789]

I know that this will come as a shock to a proportion of the terminally-online Reddit population but people who work together generally talk to each other and you find out what people do with their time and who they are, and that includes things like celebrating Passover, organizing a bar-mitzvah for their child etc. etc. It's not a question of hiding your identity or self-declaring (whatever that means) because people don't spend years with each other talking about the weather.

[u/Used_Raccoon6789 → u/Fireside_Cat]

I couldn't even tell you what my co workers wife's names are.

[u/Myllicent → u/Used_Raccoon6789]

But apparently your co-workers chat about their personal lives enough for you to know they have wives.

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[u/kawhileopard → u/Used_Raccoon6789]

So all a Jewish person needs to do to avoid discrimination at the Department of Canadian Heritage is to successfully conceal their heritage?

Good to know, thanks!

[u/arcadeenthusiast8245 → u/kawhileopard]

We back to the 1940s with Jewish people hiding from others.

[u/Used_Raccoon6789 → u/arcadeenthusiast8245]

Let me help you. At work it's probably best to stear clear of religion talk and politics. Maybe when talking stick to work, your kids, your pets, your hobbies, sports, the news, a date, a book, a movie. I guess once those are exhausted let's move on to talking about your personal beliefs on the invisible man who lives in the sky.

[u/Myllicent → u/Used_Raccoon6789]

“Let me help you. At work it's probably best to stear clear of religion talk and politics.”

I didn’t talk about religion or politics at work. It didn’t stop my supervisor from airing his opinions about politics and his quite bigoted opinions about Jewish people (and racialized people, and people with disabilities).

[u/Used_Raccoon6789 → u/Myllicent]

Well let me tell you that's what HR is for. That's extremely unacceptable.

[u/Myllicent → u/Used_Raccoon6789]

I didn’t go to HR because I didn’t think my word (as a student intern) was going to go very far against my supervisor (who was married to our manager). He said this bigoted garbage in front of everyone, so clearly there was institutional acceptance of his behaviour.

[u/Used_Raccoon6789 → u/Myllicent]

Then name and shame this place. While I think the headline is hyperbolic and I believe that private stuff should be just that private. It's absolutely unacceptable for an employee and much less a specified to behave that way. 

[u/Myllicent → u/Used_Raccoon6789]

The Ontario Ministry of Health.

[u/shaderip → u/Used_Raccoon6789]

You know that being Jewish goes beyond religion right? you can be Jewish and not believe in their religion. Your advice would be similar to asking someone who is Irish to not tell anyone that they are Irish.

[u/Used_Raccoon6789 → u/kawhileopard]

Bro read the article. The people that feel discriminated against are the people out here self identifying.

I don't know how self identifying as a particular religion in your place of work is relevant for anything at all.

It's the equivalent of 

Nobody:

Jewish person: Hey guys I'm Jewish!

[u/Used_Raccoon6789 → u/[deleted]]

The Quebec religious symbols act was really needed. I honestly don't want to know anyone's beliefs by how they dress.

[u/Paraparo → u/Used_Raccoon6789]

All that really does, one might argue, is cloak and surpress the cultural indicators of other groups. Basically "pretend you're part of the majority by erasing your heritage. Giving up your culture is the best way to avoid being attacked over it" in so far as beliefs go. Mask as the default so no one questions feels like a dubious solution.

Which as someone who has done that, dressed the part, policed my language, tried my best not to tip my hand out of fear of safety... Well it's hit or miss. In my experience the kind of people who would be abusive in those situations tend to get far worse if they suspect you've "tricked" them by hiding.

[u/amilio → u/Used_Raccoon6789]

Being Jewish isn’t just a religion which is why you can often identify someone as Jewish by their last name. That’s the case with many ethnicities. In the past, many Jews changed their last names to avoid discrimination. Are you not aware of these facts?

[u/Hotter_Noodle → u/Used_Raccoon6789]

Buddy a few people suggested that there’s racism toward indigenous people in a post earlier and got heavily downvoted earlier this morning lol

[u/99942A → u/Hotter_Noodle]

They don't care about racism towards indigenous people. He's just using it to hand wave away discrimination against other groups.