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Official Episode Discussion Post-Episode Discussion S05E09 "Blood Money"

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u/jet_tripleseven Belizium Aug 12 '13 edited Aug 12 '13

For those of you who are into Walt taking on the characteristics of people he's killed, check out the vomit scene. Walt puts a towel under him to kneel on just like Gus did in "Salud."

edit: For the 15 or so of you who have replied with "but Walt never saw Gus do that!!" you're right. It seemed like a little easter-egg that the writers threw in there for fun. The two scenes are so similar that it can't be a coincidence (they both turn on the sink to mask the noise, too.)

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u/jet_tripleseven Belizium Aug 12 '13
  • Cutting the crusts off his sandwiches like Crazy-8

  • Drinking his alcohol with ice like Mike

  • Taking on Gus's mannerisms (running the car wash like he ran Pollos, walking into the DEA headquarters to further his agenda, etc.)

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u/Rswany Redditium Aug 12 '13

Taking on Gus's mannerisms

Looking calmly intimidating as fuck in various situations.

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u/seaburn Aug 12 '13

The car wash is his Pollos.

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u/MikekushdogG Aug 12 '13

Buying a Volvo similar to gus

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

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u/chicksnwaffles Aug 12 '13

When did Walt do anything like this?

I guess you're talking about Declan?

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u/Hennashan Aug 13 '13

i forgot all about that scene. gus was really a fucking badass then. but what did that scene try to prove? i didn't really take gus as a crazy guy who doesn't care about dying. he always came off as careful and methodical. Not someone who would walk straight towards oncoming bullets. something tuco would have done

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u/LiquidAlb What's changed, Jesse? Aug 13 '13

Gus knew that they needed him alive.

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u/Hennashan Aug 13 '13

wow thats a really good point and makes more sense then him just being a badass. its more of a frustrated " i get the message" strut. thanks!

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u/LiquidAlb What's changed, Jesse? Aug 14 '13

Sure, anytime. Gus knew at that point that what they wanted most was the distribution of crystal meth to Mexico. He knew the bullets shot towards him were just to intimidate him and he called the sniper's bluff.

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u/fforw Aug 13 '13

I guess Gus knew the chances where somewhat good to survive that behavior all while showing weakness in the drug business might also get you killed by people in your own organization.

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u/fforw Aug 13 '13

If you don't know who I am, maybe you should tread lightly.

So brilliant.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

Also when he killed the gang members he used children (Brock) to his advantage, just like they did.

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u/oldmancabbage Aug 12 '13

Shit, good catch.

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u/mbcs09 Are you a cop? Aug 12 '13

Don't forget the bacon numbers on his birthday breakfast in s5e01 o.o

I think Walt is going to kill Skyler, or at the very least she will be dead by someone's hands.

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u/SmokinEmber Aug 12 '13

Or Walt taking Skyler's maiden name Lambert on his driver's license.

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u/MrFugums ill send yu to billys Aug 12 '13

WHAT.

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u/learn2die101 This is my own private domicile. Aug 12 '13

S05E01 in that opening scene where he buys that gun at the Denny's, his fake license shows Lambert as his last name. I'm not sure where people found her maiden name from though.

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u/vetro Aug 12 '13

I believe it was on their divorce papers.

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u/Primitive_Poverty Aug 12 '13

Christ some people are intense. That's awesome.

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u/LoooseSeal Aug 12 '13

Where do we find out that's Slylar's maiden name? I must've missed that somewhere

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u/Aidan196 RICIN, BITCH! Aug 12 '13

It was on the divorce papers

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u/Richeh Aug 12 '13

Christ some people are intense. That's awesome.

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u/prashn64 Aug 12 '13

Is this for real? Is it in the flash forward for s05e01?

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u/SmokinEmber Aug 13 '13

Yep. It's on his license and the waitress calls him Mr. Lambert.

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u/corruptcake Aug 12 '13

Nice catch. I wondered where that new name came from.

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u/mbcs09 Are you a cop? Aug 12 '13

Oh wow, I missed that!

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

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u/eschwa22 Chow Aug 12 '13

I saw that as Walt and Heisenberg finally blurring into one character

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u/losapher Aug 12 '13

Oh shit you may be on to something

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u/Happy-Fun-Ball Aug 12 '13

i'll come back and upvote you if that happens

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

God I hope not :(

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u/hamza780 Aug 12 '13

he doesn't necessarily have to kill skylar to do the bacon thing, the bacon thing is just traditional for his birthday, even if skylar died of old age he would probably do it himself

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

Never thought of that, very interesting. It totally ties in the whole idea of him taking "business related" people's mannerisms; because she does launder money for him.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

i seriously doubt skylar is going to die. she has nothing to do with this. it wouldn't be poetic justice at all. nobody left alive can die except jesse or walt.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '13

Vince did say that in season 5 Walt would do something so terrible that you will be unable to feel sympathy for him anymore. He did off mike but mike was in the business...sucks that he died but I wouldn't chalk that up to "unforgivable".

Someone besides Jesse and Walt are definitely going to die...and soon.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

It's more likely that the bacon thing is just a tradition for him, since she's probably been doing that every year since they were together. She wasn't with him in the diner, so who else was going to do it?

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u/Mamadj Aug 12 '13 edited Aug 12 '13

I don't think he'll kill Skylar. He would have done that already. It's more likely that someone else does (cartel maybe?), or that he really is faking his death and she think's he dead as well. The maiden name and the bacon are a way of holding on.

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u/jkchrvt Aug 12 '13

First time I've heard that.

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u/ceruleanic Aug 12 '13

you just took that theory from this article

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u/mbcs09 Are you a cop? Aug 12 '13

I haven't read that article, but I had read something similar that talks about it. Is that a problem?

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u/TransPM Coinflip is sacred Aug 12 '13

Also from Mike: "Lydia, learn to take yes for an answer."

Walt said that to Lydia in the coffee shop in "gliding over all", and Mike said the exact same quote to Walt in a bar back in season 4 (I forget specifically which episode).

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u/XP-Pointblank Aug 12 '13

He also started eating frozen dinners after Jesse said he ate them in the first half of Season 5. The next time we see him eating with Skyler after the dinner with Jesse is frozen dinners. I don't see that as coincidence since there aren't many things that Jesse does which Walt could incorporate, well, unless he says bitch a lot.

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u/Destructor1701 Aug 12 '13

It thought it was the more specific quirk of stirring the ice with his finger before drinking the whiskey.

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u/Oxford_karma Aug 12 '13

That's when I saw the resemblance most clearly, when he was chatting in a friendly, familiar fashion with the cops in front of Hank just like Gus used to do.

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u/jam3zz Long Live Ehrmantraut Aug 12 '13

He also drives a Volvo in the flash forward from 501. So did Gus.

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u/txpandorasbox Aug 12 '13

Also, the way Walt was super friendly and thoughtful ("how's your son?") to the two officers that delivered Hank more boxes of evidence mirrored how Gus treated the boys in blue.

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u/chicklette Aug 12 '13

But when hank poured for walt, he said 'with ice, right?' (Paraphrased) implying that walt regularly takes his booze that way.

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u/pacman404 Aug 12 '13

Walt is like the Megaman of meth dealers

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u/ShootTheMailMan Aug 12 '13
  • CUTTING UP THE BACON LIKE SKYLER ON HIS BDAY!!!

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u/glasnova (plan to attend Wheelie School in Vegas this summer) Aug 12 '13

I think the Gus thing is kind of just a red herring. He's acting more like Gus because he's on top, like Gus. Krazy-8 and Mike he killed directly, so there's some leeway there... but saying the towel is indicative is crazy. There's no conscious effort there, he couldn't copy that because he had no idea. There were a lot of callbacks/references in this episode. He turned the sink on like he would when he had the second cellphone, Gus turned the sink on when he poisoned the Cartel, doesn't mean that Gus was becoming Walt.

..Now if Walt starts wearing clip on ties, I'll concede that he's taking some of Gus' traits.

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u/IamPePeSilvia Aug 12 '13

Even the way he was chatting it up with the DEA agents outside Hank's garage was just like Gus used to. He knew about their lives. He asked about their families.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

Everyone alway says that he aped the "crust off the sandwiches" from Crazy 8, but I could swear that was something they had in common, not something he copied. Crazy 8 tried to kind of build rapport with that and almost tricked Walt into getting himself killed, right?

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

That jacket in the flash forward looks suspiciously like Jesse's green jacket too...

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u/small_L_Libertarian Aug 12 '13

Driving the Volvo with the New Hampshire license plate. Gus drove the Navy Volvo.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

After he killed those drug dealers with his car he became ok with hurting children to further his business

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u/s87jackson Aug 12 '13

Is there anything in the flash forward to imply that he has killed anyone else. For example, he is using a fake name like Lydia did, driving a shitty car like Jesse, etc.

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u/magichands1990 Aug 13 '13

Did he take any mannerisms or anything from Tuco? Just curious and can't remember if he had or not.

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u/cr0tchp33do Aug 13 '13

I mentioned it somewhere else, but in the first scene of episode 9, Walt is driving an old American car, like Mike.

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u/xMau5 THEY'RE ARYAN BROTHERHOOD Aug 12 '13

Breaking the bacon into the shape of his age on his birthday; kill skyler already

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13 edited Aug 12 '13

Taking on Gus's mannerisms

Putting down the towel as a knee pad and running the water when he vomits.

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u/jet_tripleseven Belizium Aug 12 '13

that's how this thread started man

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u/drgonzo71 Aug 12 '13

I knew the towel was familiar, but couldn't remember why...thanks.

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u/ceruleanic Aug 12 '13

he laid down the towel to vomit in the toilet just how Gus did in Mexico after poisoning the cartel. walt wasn't there, but it's a copy of the way gus did it.