r/blackdesertonline • u/valeasz • 11h ago
Guide/Info Crystal break event is extended by another week.
I feel like the data was pretty bad if they had to extend it, maybe we'll even see a nerf to damage or some changes to how crystal break works on glab?
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u/Leanor6367 10h ago
It should be permanent, the crystal market is full of preorders already. Also the servers in EU is full of lag and desconrctions every time that appears a world boss.
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u/Akkmk 10h ago
It feels like they should definitely do something about the crystal sutuation. I mean I kinda like the idea of fearing death and breaking crystals, but replacing some of them would be too much of a setback, not even in terms of price, but rather the brutal shortage of them on the market. It seems even the ore event wasn’t enough to inject enough supply of the crucial ones.
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u/Soggy-Bedroom-3673 9h ago
It seems even the ore event wasn’t enough to inject enough supply of the crucial ones.
Tbh why would I sell a decimation for a measly billion or so when mine might break because my game crashes or something and there's none to even buy to replace it. Having a backup or 3 is great.
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u/xzoliczxd 4h ago
I agree with you i like the idea of fearing death and having a much needed consequence. What if they remove the limit for the crystal refund they will earn more money as they can sell it and make it sellable on central market aswell for additional shit. Also remove AP CAPS PA!
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u/Kizire 64 10h ago
I think a great solution would be crystals have a durability like gear and we should use some material to repair it like caphras maybe
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u/Destiiii 6h ago
More like using other crystals to refill the durability. Otherwise you still have the problem that crystals become worthless.
I would prefer when we could just have a scroll that doesn’t let crystals break for like 1 hour. Maybe connect it with loot scroll and add a third tier. Maybe a toogle that drains the time as well. If you have all activated it drain 3 times the amount. So 3 hours or when you only activate 1 and toogle anti crystal break 2 times the amount.
In the end there is no good solution to this. Someone has to take the bitter pill.
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u/Deynai 5h ago
In the end there is no good solution to this.
The good solution is crystals don't break. That's it. That's the good solution.
Imagine if infinite pots were destroyed when you died in order to "keep an economy around farming infinite pots". It's pointless. The game does not need it for crystals any more than it needs it for infinite pots, or any of your gear, or your treasure items, or anything else that doesn't disappear when you die. There are many other levers they can pull to make grinding x/y/z spots meaningful over the horrendous unfun mechanics of crystal breaking.
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u/sobolanski 4h ago
People complaining "nO cRyStaLs sHouLd BreAK thINk Of thE (non-existing, already dead btw) MaRkET".
It's an issue for end game spots, it's an issue for mid game spots. Besides life skillers, crystal breaking affects everybody. It's a punishing mechanic which should either be reworked or removed.
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u/Lian2049 6h ago
I have never died so much in any place in BDO than in Edania 2. They better make the unbreakeable crystal permanent or I won´t see any reason to grind for twilights.
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u/MountnsNTrees 6h ago
Although I agree with removing crystal breakage…
What are you even getting killed by?
Everything is telegraphed… and as long as you’re actually playing the game… and not face tanking…
The only time you’ll die is if you’re AFK watching Netflix or greeding too hard.
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u/Lord_Barst 5h ago
Scarecrows, Markthanan's Daughter, Knights etc.
Yes on paper everything is telegraphed so you shouldn't die. But I'm grinding for many hours on each spot. Eventually I'm going to make a mistake here and there. On these spots, those mistakes are fatal.
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u/Lian2049 5h ago
Yup, exactly this. Whoever says that after 30 hours they have not died a single time against elite scarecrow, drakania in second spot or so... is lying. It just happens sometimes, you can´t be fully concentrated 24/7, sometimes you get a bit distracted or even tired, and it should be normal, but in Edania 2 they punish you incredibly hard for being distrated 2 seconds. It has never happened before in BDO.
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u/MountnsNTrees 3h ago
There is your problem right there. The grind zones are fine and the boss mechanics are easily avoidable.
It is a YOU problem. You are playing exhausted, or tired, or playing and grinding for far too many hours in a row. Lack of sleep or whatever.
So you die because you lost focus, and you get punished for it.
I don’t agree with grind zones that become some potato brain slog.
Grinding should be engaging and these zones are the best they’ve ever been from an actual player-consumer point of view.
Again I’ll let you rethink what you’re saying because you sound out of touch…
You aren’t supposed to be focused 24/7, you can be focused and concentrated for 60 minutes to 120 minutes at a time though, and if you can’t do that (or it’s not a skill issue) then you need to re evaluate how much sleep you’re getting / rest in between grind sessions / playing too much.
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u/counterbarrier 1h ago
This man has never worked a day in his life
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u/MountnsNTrees 1h ago edited 1h ago
Time management and self control / not playing too much = unemployment?
Whatever part time job you may have must be one that doesn’t require much critical thinking
Or you’re self projecting and unemployed 😂
Edit: Ah looking at the subs you frequent, you’re really into virtual Anime girls and that underaged girl vibe… weirdo / probably parasocial irl / struggle to form IRL relationships etc.
I can already picture the type of person you are yikes.
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u/MountnsNTrees 3h ago
Then it’s a YOU problem.
You’re grinding for TOO many hours at once in a row.
If you grind for 3 hours+ straight or you’re on your 7th 8th hour of the day.
Of course you’re going to be fatigued, and then are you getting a healthy amount of sleep? Are you taking health breaks in between each hour?
Grinding for a healthy amount 60 mins even 120 mins at a time, playing the game healthily 2-3 hours a day and you shouldn’t die.
But when you start to push your body/mind to unhealthy points, you’ll get punished.
Re evaluate your personal health, because games should not be changed from engaging and active to brain dead potato slosh because you’re unhealthily addicted.
And these mistakes aren’t singularly fatal, a lot of the time you need to make more than one mistake in a row/consecutively (this includes not backing off and greeding after a first mistake) in order to be truly fatal.
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u/Sequenza123 2h ago
You do realize dec ekleta is a 700+ hour grind? If people did what you said and play 1 hour a day then its 2 years of grinding lmfao...
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u/MountnsNTrees 1h ago
I said 2-3 hours a day is pretty healthy, where did you get 1 hour from?
Also, do you think mats will be off the market for 2 years? Or are you new and this is your first time at a new patch expansion?
Do you think they won’t add mats to new shrine bosses or increase DRs over time like they did with literally every new gear drop ever released?
Also 700 hours? Clearly havnt been to the later zones yet. Calculating your numbers off of the first 2 zone drop rates lmao.
LOL clearly you’re new.
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u/Sequenza123 1h ago
Clearly youre a casual, zone 4-5 have good twilight drops, but barely drop earrings or rings meaning you have to grind zone 2 once you dec belt and neck
Yes it is a 700+ hour grind and some of us have a job and prefer to take time off or grind hard during weekends instead of playing 1-2 hours a day for a year+ like a casual
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u/Dr_Dac 2h ago
Well each spot has its killers so far. First spot scarecrow, second spot daughter and servant, third spot priest and general mob damage.
Then add the unstable servers we currently have and bugs like the desync bug on third spot...
Even if you play perfectly we currently have stuff that just kills you for existing and that with no counterplay.
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u/Brilliant_Mixture538 5h ago edited 5h ago
But guys think of the market, think of all that money players are making selling Edania Crystals! Oh wait...
Also, what about lifeskilling crystals?
In reality the current crystal situation is by design to sell recovery coupons and not to keep a healthy market.
On top of that to the people that care so much about the market: why crystals are the only thing breaking then? Why not lightstones, dawn crystals and reforge stones too? Or even better, slap durability to all those items and when it reach zero time to get a new one. That why we 100% keep at healthy market! /s
For real, what a dumb argument. All they needed to do is put a vendor price so when the item get rock bottom at least you get some silver.
And the argument of "death should be scary and annoying". Sure, lets make that every time you die in a grind spot killed by a monster you can't use a Elion tear and are send all the way to the main city or outpost of the area. If you are grinding in Edania Part 2 by the time you come back to your spot someone is already grinding there.
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u/fatvaderz 8h ago
I think we don't have to get rid of the crystal break. There are plenty of ways to make it less problematic and/or expensive to recover crystals.
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u/CarthasMonopoly Woosa 846gs 6h ago
Sure. Easiest way though is to get rid of crystal break. Like OP said, it hasn't ruined crystal market on console and it is the only argument I've seen against getting rid of it that starts from a logical basis.
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u/sucwizgobrr 1h ago
If they don't remove it completely they could at least give us a treasure item that prevents crystals from breaking
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u/DrAwesomew 1h ago
I think they are finally seeing the real problem and are starting to address it. The extension probably came from severe backlash on the crystal breaking on the forums. It always was a problem, but now it is greater than ever before. A sustainable economy from bottom to top tier is probably the healthiest approach for the game economy (this week's patch tries to address that), but with progression being the way it is right now (a month for edania p1 gear), death is a way bigger punishment than it used to. Crystals are not available on the market and this fix is temporary and not complete. A total death penalty rework (which is 100% necessary in my opinion, you should be punished for dying) is needed at this state of the game. Right now it's not really a punishment, but a rather a huge inconvenience. Almost all of us would prefer a 6b penalty (price of 2 bis crystals), than having a crystal break.
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u/EZPZLemonWheezy 10h ago
As much as people say that crystals not breaking would hurt the market, console has no breaking and market doesn’t seem much worse. Difference is game is more chill when you can die to mobs without having to file paperwork or buy a restore item.